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[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1354904764' post='1891940'] Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is a theory and not a fact. [/quote] For clarity purposes ([b]if[/b] it helps for something): Yes, but that sentence in itself can be taken two ways - and will be because of people's different reference frames - one of them being that a fact is of higher status than ("just") a theory, whilst in the scientific world, a theory is based on facts and as such, facts are the lower components and theories are at the highest level. BTW, I see that several people beat me to it. My previous post is in no way an answer to anything else than the OP. best, bert

[quote name='simes' timestamp='1354898388' post='1891826'] Why is it called theory. A theory suggests to me that how something happens or works is unknown but the available evidence suggests something or is a well informed educated guess. Music works to well known sets of rules and conventions (which I know can be broken in the right context i.e if it sounds right). I feel I am not studying a theory but rules guided by the laws of physics. [/quote] It's called 'theory' because it has been called that for more than 2 millennia at the least. It's an (analytical) look at. There's a Roman, and probably Old-Greek or older etymology here. I don't know of any relation of the term to your everyday 'theory' description as an educated guess, or its totally different scientific counterpart, where a "theory" is the highest form of evidenced, accepted explanation of observed phenomena - - what one in everyday language would call the "proven" stuff. Music Theory contains Music Psychology, and in part tries to explain why and how music works the way it works. BTW, I like how you word "rules guided by the laws of physics". IME too few grasp that aspect, and too many express views along the lines of: "the theory mafia is not gonna make the rules for me - I'll do what I effing want thankyou", completely disregarding both the hindsight core of theory and its view at physics as an explanation rather than as a strait-waistcoat (straitjacket for you sorry lot below the border). But I'm aware I'm here bordering on an existing and vast debate about what music theory is or should and shouldn't be. best, bert

Hey Rob, Lovely that you decided to listen to Kind of Blue. Wanted to mention it, but couldn't for the life of me remember what it's called. Funny how appreciation goes: guy I know couldn't get into Bitches Brew, but saw the light after he'd listened to In a Silent Way. Me I couldn't get into In a Silent Way, but saw the light when I'd heard Bitches Brew. Anyway, enjoy and ask away, also about classical. best, bert

Hi Simpleman, Welcome to BC. Loads of info here, and you'll enrich the banter, I'm sure. Nice to read how you decided to take lessons after the previous experience. Lessons is good, m'kay? Enjoy! best, bert

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1354874805' post='1891408'] I took away a large chunk off the price I was asking. [/quote] LOWBALLLER! Lovely story in a great post. tnx! best, bert

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1354856673' post='1891290'] I read the title wrong, and nearly wrote none. Still, now that i have read it right, still none, really. Just some fondling [/quote]

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1354820806' post='1890915'] Why did this offend you? [/quote] I don't think I can put it another way than I did. I struggled enough already trying to express something, so I'm not willing to give it even one more go. Sorry. FWIW, I never use my being offended about something as an argument for my being right or for me having rights. Stephen Fry is right IMO, and I've debated along those lines as long as I can remember. In fact it's one of my pet peeves. [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1354821249' post='1890932'] Because it probably devalued his own. or he likes his that much that he would pay market price gladly any day. probably a hundred different things. [/quote] Probably a hundred different things indeed. Certainly nothing about devaluation of my own. Yes, I always pay market price gladly, but that has nothing to do with why I reacted negatively to the low offers. best, bert

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1354820129' post='1890900'] Well said; I agree with every word (well, all except the idealist bit...). [/quote] Don't leave me hanging here, Dad! Who am I really? An idiot and a ..... ???

There seems to be a shared understanding by some that getting annoyed by lowballing is exactly the same as getting annoyed by a politely written PM with a lower offer. Surely, this must only be true in extreme cases. Normally though, my guess is the getting annoyed bit has a reason - good or bad. For example: - a cheeky offer with a way unrealistic price - a low price offer sent by a person who doesn't give a sh*t about other people, and shows it. - that same person demanding that his own needs are taken care of minutely. etc, etc. I think it's often caring people going through a difficult phase who get annoyed, or idealists who get offended by the very thought that others would behave these ways. Cynics and idealists are never going to understand each other. FWIW, I personally got offended when someone here recently tried to sell his desert gold Bongo way too cheaply, and still got offers clearly below that, and I've proven through decades that I can keep a bizniz running well - despite lowballers and people behaving badly. But for me what get to me is the very thought that people will praise the community feel of BC in one sentence, and will lowball in the next. Yes, I'm an idiot and an idealist. best, bert

Just so it's mentioned: the GSRM from Thomann is just £152.72. Still less than 200, I admit. best, bert

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1354803417' post='1890586'] /rant [/quote] Calm down, man! Did you never even understand it's really for helping out poor bass legend Joe Osborn? OMfG, doesn't anybody read thread titles anymore? best, bert

Hi Barry, Welcome to BC! ...and an extra welcome coz you mastered the incredibly difficult task of correctly calling them "pedals" and not "foot pedals". Nice list of basses too. How's that Rimini? Awrite I suppose, since you bought it? Anyway, share some wisdom and enjoy the banter. best, bert

If this is gonna be an ultimate band, it can't have me on bass, so I'll bend the rules a trifle. Also, since I got some power here, the ultimate band will be playing my music. For that, I need: vocals: Peter Hammill guitars: Robert Fripp and Steve Howe bass pedals and other keyboards - me drums: Pip Pyle If a bass guitar is granted in addition, then Ray Shulman should play it. Old fashioned, yes. I'm old. best, bert

[quote name='Kongo' timestamp='1354729450' post='1889722'] But the whole special way they are wound around a nonagonal core with specialist metals that were tempered in the fires of Mordor seems legit enough and should coax anyone to give em a try. :-P [/quote] Class!

Great thread ... er ... [b]really[/b] great thread, but be careful: one too many threads like these, and we'll start assuming you have a brain. Here's my take on some of this - a noob's take, but then you still haven't been granted with a better answer and it's now ... what? four hours later or so? (I'm not sure how they do the timing stuff with different time zones) 1) Windings augment mass. More mass means more change in the magnetic field. 2) My guess is that different correlations make for different overtone spectra. 3) My guess is the structural support is near zero or negative, since quite some windings "bite" into the core. 6) In my book, action is a byproduct. The real issue should be compliance, as the lack of it at the ends (bridge and nut) should mean that the intonation is wrong on most of the fretboard. I'll be very happy to get corrected on this if needed. best, bert

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Great plan. Everything to stimulate the youngsters. Personally, I'd keep it though, and buy the youngster another one - for borrowing or owning, depending. best, bert

I'm not totally sure, but I think that somewhere on BC, it was said that any Orange product with the word "crush" in its name is to be avoided.You could try a search. I need some sleep now, so I'll leave it to you. best, bert

Assuming that you want a budget amp to start with, and that you're gonna use it for practising at home: have a look at a handy amp from Elder Audio that Gear4musc sell: http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/RedSub-BP35-35W-Bass-Guitar-Amplifier/IQM At less than 100 quid, imho it blows several 200 quid amps out of the water, and it has practical line inputs and phones output. Funk and slapping and the like are no problem for it. An (almost?) identical amp can be had from Thomann under the brand name Harley Benton, and it's also available as a (Beta 3) Beta Aivin - though I don't know who sell it under that name. My assumptions may be off the mark of course. If you want a really great amp, or want the amp to work at band rehearsals and while gigging, tell us more about your budget and what you're after in an amp. Someone will know! FWIW, you can't go very wrong with a Genz Benz ShuttleMax 12.2 and lots of huge Barefaced cabs. They don't sell those for 100 quid though. best, bert

Hey Jon, Welcome! Yup. it's a great place to chat bass. Friendly gang with community sensitivities. Many people here have returned to playing bass after a long hiatus, so the pattern is recognised. That SH60 is a very nice looking bass. Had never heard about it (am a noob). How does it play and sound? Enjoy the banter! best, bert

Hey Jazzybass, Welcome! I too guess you'll partake soon enough. Roughly same story here: keyboardist for decades, but now, I'll pick up the bass long before switching on a synth. Enjoy the banter! best, bert

Hi Rob (?), If you stick to the late sixties and early seventies from that list, it should be both a nice introduction and a deep dive at the same time. Coltrane and Miles Davis (Bitches Brew, In a Silent Way) are both easy and difficult to get into at the same time, and depending on your reference frame. Sit back and be taken by the flow. Then report back and we'll get you sorted out. Thanks. Yes, I read the Tracers are highly thought of, and used by some guitar heroes. Me, I bought it coz it felt easy to play for a noob like me. Dunno about the DiMarzio's anymore. I do seem to have a vague idea that the different generations of the Tracer came with a few different pickups though. Yeah, like the Jet King a lot. I have this weak spot for everything peculiar, special, unique and quirky - especially if it's cheap and/or old. Must admit I love the Bastard, even though it's far away from what I thought I liked. The highs are not totally filtered out, but subdued, making for a charming sound that people on here called "creamy". I concur. best, bert

Hi Russ, Welcome to the surface. You already know what you're going to, so that's sorted. Congrats with your new life. Don't be a stranger now! BTW, I'll give you £39 for the bass. best, bert

Friends with John, eh? Hm. Awrite, welcome anyway then. Feeling friendly today. Welcome, Lou! It's nice to read you've already experienced something positive here. Please talk us through your bass(es) when you feel like it. Me, I love Hi-Fi sounding, high-powered stuff too, but then i'm just a noob, and will try everything I can get my hands on. Enjoy the site and its banter! best, bert

Hey Robbiano, Welcome to BC, and yes, feel welcome to share some knowledge. Guitars are very welcome of course. We just like to pretend we hate them. Me, I have a Peavey Tracer II and will soon buy a classical guitar in addition. Not that I can play them, mind. As to jazz and classical, ask away. I got into jazz through Stanley Clarke and Jaco Pastorius, then Return to Forever and Weather Report, then Wayne Shorter, Miles Davis and John Coltrane. Maybe there is something for you in that list. As for classical, when you hear something you like, you could post about it, and we could maybe point you towards something similar. I googled the Jet King. What a funky li'l thing that is. Well, enough of my claptrap! Enjoy! best, bert