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https://www.guitarchat.co.uk/topic/623-my-motley-collection/ Oooh look! We have a guitar site!! lol TLDR: Chandler Strat HSS with Wilkinson VS100C trem, EMG pickups and mid boost Nile Rodgers Hitmaker replica Yamaha MSG (x2) Klein berger with Fernandes sustainer and R trem

It's almost too much if I'm honest. Once the sweet spots for each band have been found, it's pretty much set and forget. So trim pots for frequency centres in the back of the bass, (like Alembic use for their noise filters) adjustable with a small crosshead screwdriver would do the trick probably. Also the middle band isn't narrow enough for my taste despite Klaus doing his best.

Heh, I have a three band semi parametric eq on the Spector and my self built bass.

Have you tried the BB2005 at all? Same electronics and identical woods apart from no maple cap on the wings, chrome hardware and rosewood fingerboard instead of ebony. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-BB-2005-5-String-Bass-Guitar-with-Hiscox-Case/202967944175?hash=item2f41d50bef:g:ovEAAOSw~wZejjOQ

I actually tried the NE pedal 15 years ago, maybe it was just me but I didn't understand the point of it outside a recording studio. I think I also saw a freq chart for the pedal somewhere online too since then. What about comparisons with the Wal high pass+boost@ shelving point?

I actually replaced the Smiths with the Spector. But I ripped out the EMG's as I don't like them in basses and put some custom Wizards in instead, wiring the coils in each pickup in parallel. So now the Spector sounds more like a Smith but with a bit more midrange. (Although now I know the bloke who makes Smith pickups so could go back to him for an OEM set if I thought that might make much of a difference.) Do you use the mid cut much? I have to admit that I didn't find mid cut very helpful on stage when I was gigging.

Smith sound is defined by parallel wired coils in each humbucker and soft necks. A complete opposite to the sound Status are known for which is zingy with shelved lows.

Yeah BBNE2, Spector NS5, Smith BSR/BT, maybe Tobias, Vigier, they're all sort of in the same ball park of timbre, aren't they? The neck on the Spector has a slight S curve on it which prevents me from getting the action as low as I'd like. He suggested steaming the neck straight but I was happy to just replace the rosewood with richlite and be done with the faff. He's also got my Pangborn as well which was being refinished but the original finish was so tough on it that it feels like he's just written the whole thing off until there is a good enough reason to get back to it. I'll probably end up doing it myself during my next visit to the UK. If Spector or Tobias or even Schecter were to offer their take on the BBNE2, same neck woods and body (Spector already do alder with maple cap) how much would you be willing to pay to tempt you away from the BBNE2? Is it all just about the woods or are the electronics part of the appeal? I'd be happy with a passive bass if it felt and sounded right.

I've always been thinking of getting one, they're fabulous basses. But the Spector NS5CR (which has been with Jon Shuker since 2016) has tended to fill the gap that would have otherwise been filled by a BBNE2. However I'm curious about why people want to own them and whether they think it is worth the asking price. Compared to other basses in the same price range, they aren't flashy.

Can I ask for a show of hands - who owns a BBNE2 here apart from you @Al Krow?

Good evening fat fighters. How many of you like bass? I like bass, don't you? Hmmm? We all like...every now and then...to have...a bit...of bass. Oooooh, I love a bit of bass. Hmmmm. Oooooh, bass. Oooooh, bass. We LOOOOOOOOOVE the bass. Bass. Bass. Bass. Bass. I'm just one of these people. I come home and I need a bit of bass. Buttery. Biscuit. Bass.

Exactly, when I was looking seriously at an FAB180 about 11 years ago, I ended up getting the real thing instead...and then some.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124005952828 For any of you who didn't know, Fernandes took a couple of Alembic employees on board back in the late 70's/early 80's and they started producing very accurate replicas of Alembic Standard and Point body shapes in Series 1 configuration. They used to be reasonably priced as well about 10 years ago but recently they've gone up in price to nearly the same level as a basic Alembic. The pickups and wiring were also replicated even down to the stereo outputs and DI/power supply. I never knew they had indulged in a double neck, so this is literally a unicorn bass, with a unicorn price. Players who have been lucky enough to own one of these AND the original claim it's easy to tell the difference between the two in terms of build quality and they're probably right given the different asking prices. Still, not even Alembic made many doublenecks for probably sensible reasons.

Yes, same thing. I was tempted to post a clip from the Live At Wembley DVD but refrained as it's a bit cliched now and I'm probably dating my tastes in the same way the p bass guys are! But that articulation in the mids was fundamental in shaping my tastes. Plus it feels so good to play basses with that character, the string tension is loose. The p bass clips are the same sort of thing but neck pickup. Especially Tiram Porter.

What most of us do is learn to play our favorite songs. Plenty of YouTube videos out there now! Get stuck in.

Second bass but yes, not a great experience. It was the only thing I could afford with two pickups!

These are mine at the moment: Vigier Passion 5 Alembic Series 2 graphite 5 string (unicorn bass, realistically - only a handful in existence and this one is now a fretless) Hagstrom Super Swede reissue I really like hearing focussed and growly mids if I'm on stage amongst a loud foldback mix. It makes it easier to hear what note is being played without looking down at my left hand constantly.

Sorry I should have mentioned it would need to be a 5.

I want to try a Sire V7 with the swamp ash body. It'll have to wait until I return to civilisation.

That's a great first bass. Goodness me how times have changed since I started out. I would have killed for this level of quality back then.

Thanks :) We're hanging in there although our export business is getting a double dose - couldn't export during our lockdown and can't import into the UK during its lockdown. We've had to take finance out. So the timbre I'm going for involves well defined mids, some basses I've played have had them. The occasional Sei bass and ACG but a Toby Pro (with the same neck woods) didn't. Celinders, Yamaha BBNEII, Jaydees, Wals, Smiths and my Spector (s) also but in 'slightly different ways and for different reasons. A lot of it comes down to neck woods but there's no single way to do it. So it's not a quality that can be predicted reliably yet because the sound and feel is so dependent on the right combination of wood characteristics. I can't even rely on species 100% ! It's more a case of finding a maker with a stash of the right wood and putting together something that works ergonomically.

I sold it to LucOry just before I left the UK. It had 14mm string spacing at the bridge which was a challenge to play. Otherwise a fantastic sounding bass but I kept thinking about Ned Steinberger admitting he wished he had put out something like the M series before the L. I haven't missed it. In terms of timbre and feel, yes I guess so. I thought it would be easy to achieve once the recipe was right. But there's more than one recipe and so much seems to depend on getting access to the right woods and using them in the right places.

It's a great bass, isn't it? Really low action thanks to those metal rods in the neck. I'm planning on swapping out the Alembic eq for something else but all the spare preamps I have right now are 4 knob, not three.

I had a Sierra Precision Bass - white with black pickguard. Probably made in Japan but came with a plywood body. I hated it. This was a time when I lusted for anything with a bridge pickup. I traded it for a Westone Spectrum II and hated that as well. Then came back to the UK and worked my nads off for a Jaydee.

Very tasteful indeed.