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[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1385142808' post='2284999'] No, the D major key signature only tells you the set of notes used. Your ear will tell you that 'A' is 'home' for that song. [/quote] Yes, but "key" and "home" do not necessarily have to be the same. Is not one way of thinking is that "key" is "parent scale" is "set of notes"? Key signature IS the key. Or you can think about it as per dloyds posts. Nether is wrong.

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1385133903' post='2284860'] Technically, the tonic chord is A, so it absolutely isn't in D major... Just as a song in B minor isn't in D major. it's A major with a chromatic subtonic substitution. The tonic chord gives the key of the piece, not the collection of chords. However, there is a certain amount of muddiness about this and while it's theoretically "more correct" to notate a piece in A mixolydian as A major with accidentals, a lot of publishers will just deal with it as if it's in D major. [/quote] Can it not be described both ways though?

It is D Major, technically. So it is IV G, I D, V A Which is what A Mixolydian is - 5th mode of D Major. This also fits the Em later int he song. That is chord ii of D major. The "key" refers to the parent scale from which all the chords are derived. It does not have to be the chord that a song starts or finishes on. So the Sweet Home Alabama referenced above uses chords D, C, G. To be technically correct this is a song in G Major, as those chords are V D, IV C, and I G of the key of G. Hope that helps a bit. It's quite hard to explain it properly on a message board to be honest. With my student we go through what is called the diatonic harmonisation of the major scale, which is essentially showing how the main chords in any key are formed for that parent scale.

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1385079502' post='2284381'] Eh, I think some of you are just looking for a reason to pile on. My point to the OP was that if he needs help, it'd make sense to be as clear as possible. I never heard the song so i had to do a bit of deciphering from his post to find out how to explain it. Not everyone may go to the same lengths. And, un, yeah, you're welcome. And even when my point of a B triad being the same as a Abm7, STILL, it isn't good enough. Geez, everyone is so sensitive. Maybe it's a Gen Y thing. They can't take criticism without crying and demanding an apology if they fart and the world doesn't applaud. You can all go on about how rude I am -- it gives everyone a free shot to insult me. That's fine. But you may not want to reconsider being a musician if you can't take the slightest bit of direction. [/quote] Excuse me ! It's not about taking direction! I AM a pro musician. It's about your condescending manner ! I'm out.

But if I'm misreading it I apologise.....

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1385076117' post='2284336'] Wow, everybody's panties are a bit tight today. Hey, I stand by what I said. I answered your question and you're breaking my balls? Take the advice or don't. And yes, B has the same notes as Ab7 -- both have B, D# and F#. But the Abm7 has an Ab root. So if you play a B with an Ab in the bass, it's same chord. Next time, instead of trying for the snarky come-back, try listening. You might learn something. [/quote] That is some proper rudeness right there. Wind it in.

To clarify. I never use charts, for anything. But I am aware that I have the ability to learn retain songs quickly and easily if I learn them first off and don't write them down. Thqt way the chart never become a crutch. The most I will do is write keys on the set list but that will only be for dep gigs. But I know I am lucky, it is just something I can "do".

Use the ipad with PDF scans that you scan into it using docscan app. I find that if I learn a song form memory in the first place it sticks, but if I have written if down forts, it takes me a while to get it in my head.

I am. Gonna see how it gigs this weekend. Seriously I expect it to do all I need it to do. Big rig might be redundant lol

[quote name='Immo' timestamp='1385044043' post='2283767'] Cool lookin' amp, bet it has a a lot of punch. P.S. The "NAD" abbreviation makes me laugh every time [/quote] Lol yeah. For £319 it's silly. To be honest I can see it being all the amp I will ever need for the huge majority of my gigs.

Got me one of these It sounds great, plenty loud. iPad photo antigravity was free.

Deal. Rude not to. Etc etc

How much?

Result all round

So has anyone used one of these http://stringadapter.com Any good? I'm thinking of getting one so I can use standard strings on my Jack Custom. Cheers all Chris

No idea, but it looks ace.

Lol... I've now got a Contour 500 210 combo wining it's way to me from Mr Stickley. £319. Crazy.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1384865773' post='2281546'] Totally different drivers afaik so they may sound totally different to each other, rat fur on the outside which I prefer too. [/quote] Mines older but it's tolex

It's not good on a small Gramma, but ace on the larger one. It's not very stable on the smaller one. I have both

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1384778455' post='2280531'] Ive got to the point where as long as I can hear something behind me im happy, id use an ashdown rig again if someone else provided it at every gig, I used a trace commando combo for a few gigs that the singer provided to save me taking mine. Im lazy [/quote] I'm coming to that way of thinking to be honest

Fair points. But look at the prices that many high end cabs sell for on here. It might just be me, but my perception is that many such cabs seem to settle at £300 - £450 ish. Ok, so maybe £350 ;-/ but it is not what I think thank is important, rather that the market will decide. I am not 100% with mine (earlier one), but it'll do.

I'd say that the fact that there are a couple of negative comments about the cabs on this thread will not be helping the resale...

They would be worth what the market decides. The only way to know the figure if for someone to try and sell one at, say £500. See if someone buys it. I know where you are coming from, and it is interesting, I paid £500 for a prev model neox212t. That was once a £800 cab too, but I'd not expect to get more than about £300 for it. I base that figure on my usual calculation of 2/3 of the shop price at the time. This usually seems to be about right. So, valuing yours at £300 I am actually being generous in my calculation given what you paid for it. Ethically, if someone tries to sell one at a price which is too high, no one will buy it. Personally if I had just bought one of these at £380 and wanted to sell it now, I'd want £300.

I'd say that if anyone wishes to sell, they do what they would do with any other product. Supply and demand, and simple economics will determine the true market value. If it is priced too high no one will buy it, simple. I cannot se any moral or ethical issues at all. The market will decide the true and fair price for a transaction in which both parties are happy. Personally I think you'd get £300. That is what I would pay, for a used but as new cabinet that retails at £380. It doesn't matter what it used to retail at.