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Are bass players more conservative than guitar players? Only if it’s wearing flats surely?
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I’ve short legs with big calves. Edwin seem to fit well for me. (Not at full price)
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As someone with odd shaped legs … what and how expensive
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Wow 😯 I mean that must get more scientific as metal alloys can be more consistent than wood? Or actually I don’t want to know do I?!
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Wait - you’re repeating yourself?!
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Do sax forums argue about “tone metal”?
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What percentage of these stories are other bassists, guitarists, other musicians or non musicians do you think?
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Is that a deliberately difficult question? Like it wouldn’t be contentious to say a Fender USA precision bass is higher quality than a Squier Affinity … but if you had to describe how and why, a lot of the reasons would be subjective and not easy to describe. if I buy an acoustic guitar, what’s the difference subjectively between the £1000 mass produced one and the £8000 artisan made one?
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Short version: Lovely Ibanez Roadster RS940 that's been fretted. Pickups are now Dimarzios. 4.4kg £400 now £350 ONO plus postage Longer Explaination after a few pics.... Long version, probably worth a read if you are interested: I have a real love of quality Japanese basses, not one that's matched with my having owned loads of them, but geeking out in early 80's catalogues... yeah that's me. And previously owned a Fujigen JV precision that I had really enjoyed... had a bit of GAS for a Blazer for a bit and then ended up buying this, and then trying to fix it... I'm going to tell you what it is, what I've done to it and then also point out the negatives... So what is it. It's a piece of magic from Japan from 1981 if I can read the serial number correctly. It weighs 4.4kg according to my kitchen scales. It has an ash or sen body, and a stiff 3 piece maple neck with maple fretboard. It's brown, but in a nice way. It's got all the original parts except the pickups, the knobs, the jack socket, a plastic ring that would have gone around the the pickup selector switch, battery snap, strap buttons, the screw on the battery cavity and one on the jack plate. The tuners are for some reason excellent and probably the best tuners I've tried on a bass, I have no idea why, but they are stable and easy to use and work really well. The neck is really stiff, much more than a Fender style, and doesn't have any dead spots I've noticed. Original preamp works lovely and does what it says it will and all the electronics work as they should. Typical super well built over designed early 80's Ibanez. It plays nice with a decent medium low action, it can go lower but my fingers hit the strings too hard for that to be a good idea. (1981 catalog image) So what's the story? It was on eBay, I bid more than I meant, I went and got it, previous owner passed away and his sister was selling. She said He had played it lots around London. So first thing to note - this has been played. When I got it it was filthy, with added stickers and EMG pickups. I tired to tell myself I should try EMG pickups and quickly realised again I hated EMG pickups... it had also been wired up by an idiot which meant It all worked until you switched the preamp off, and then any rolling off the volume would give a nice electrical buzz through your amp.... 😱 So out came the pickups and a new set of Dimarzio PJ was bought. The bridge is split coil so no buzz when soloed (unlike the original), a fairly pricy new DPDT jack was sourced that matched the original in a wiring diagram I found and I fixed the wiring back to the original wiring diagram. As I said the whole thing is over engineered, with the pots having their own silicone sleeves. Cleaning the crap off I noticed the bass had originally been fretless, and the old markers had been filled and new ones, and frets added. This has been done to a professional standard with only the old markers and what looks like a shim of card under the nut giving it away. The bass also had seemingly had every single screw loose. The neck, bridge and pickup adjustment screws were all removed, the holes plugged with the cocktail sticks and woodglue trick and rescrewed - they are now all tight and secure (and the bass sounds better because of it). The strap buttons had also been moved but I I left them. Knobs are not original. The big ones are the Ibanez knobs Thomann sell, the small ones are the closest I could find to the original, they look right but are a fraction too small. It currently wears some old sadowsky blue label strings, truss works, is easy to set up and play and plays well. The bad points? It's been played. The frets are good, they seem to have been levelled recently, which means they play pretty good, but are slightly lower at the nut end - If I were being picky they could have done with a better crowning. Feel free to tell me how low you have your action and I can check if I can match your setup but if you are one of those who has super super low action at 0.3mm a 41 year old bass may not be for you! Theres a fair bit of dinks and knocks to the body, and some on the headstock. The back of the neck is good but there is a gouge under the G string on the 12th fret. It's small enough that it doesn't effect anything but better to mention it. The worst scratch is the one between neck and upper bout at rear- I've no idea how you'll do that, it's not pretty, it goes through the finish but no further. The wood underneath is fine. So I'll have missed something so ask questions.... Price and getting it to you... Sale price is £400 ONO plus delivery. Trade value £450-500 I can package it up in a bass shaped box I have and post at cost, (or if you would prefer I've a brand new Gator GPE-Bass-TSA case that could be sold) A nice thing about selling on Basschat is sometimes you get offered interesting basses in exchange. I'm not really looking for anything but feel free to offer but don't be offended if I'm not interested. I can do trade and ££ either way but, and while your Fodera is nice I will get castrated If I added more than a few hundred to any trade! Lets have some more pictures.... Note the small bit of card under nut. Note the hole where the strap button has been moved, Also can you see where the marker was originally a dot either side of the 12th fret . EQ knobs are a bit small. Controls are Vol, Tone, Preamp on/off, 3 way pickup switch , Active Bass +- Active treble +- And look a nice solid bridge and brand new lovely Dimazio pickups!! PS there's no shim in the neck, it fits really nicely to give a good setup really easily. For me I found it really odd how much more space there is between the body and the strings than a fender. but it's how it was designed! \ the odd scratch, not structural Well worn battery cover Another strap button moved, and a screw missing on the jack plate. Body end of the neck - you can see the filled in marker on the 24th fret. Actually its' how you can tell it's not a factory fret job as the RS924 have two dots at 24fret 12th fret with the little gouge under the G string. Not noticeable to touch when playing. How on earth do you do that though? Fret condition at this end of the neck. Lower than the other but good.
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Short version: Lindy Fralin Standard P pups, with white covers. All working well. Come with screws but not original ones. Spec https://www.fralinpickups.com/product/p-bass/ It sounds lovely £80 including postage* Longer version: After listening for years to Walshy chatting about how these are his favourite pickups Oldslapper put some up for sale in this sale post and I thought I would try them. Put them in my Bravewood Precision for a few weeks... then switched back as in that particular bass I preferred the stock.... so looking to move these on at the same price and same condition... They are very very nice sounding things. Comes in a nice little box. Any questions just ask! £80 including UK postage. Happy to send outside UK as long as you realise there's going to be all sort of fun import duty for you to pay.
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Do you tend to run it both pickups on full?
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Oh that’s nice
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I think Misdee's comment probably explains why an "extra 2 contractors" wouldn't be an easy thing - you would be looking at building relationships and employing top level musical instrument makers on a decent wages... If you've got a business setup that works... then why take the risk? Bass guitars are cheap compared to a lot of orchestral instruments. Or even nice UK made hand built acoustic guitars are in that ballpark ... £6000 isn't even crazy at the top end of bass guitars. If the builder sees themselves as making a product for an open market then sure, maybe the high price and limits on supply would be an issue. If the builder sees themselves as a craftsperson making the best instrument they can, with proprietary parts, then as long as they have orders coming in they probably wouldn't see an issue with pricing them in a way that allows them to be profitable and sustainable and allows them to retire well at some point in the future. I'm fairly sure if Waller and Pete were really interested in making a massproduced and low price instrument then they could have gone down that route in their time if they had so wanted.
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by the time you're getting that and a screwdriver... just get something like this for £16 https://www.andertons.co.uk/steinberger-xt-2-bass-4-string-headpiece-adaptor-black-stadb04?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces&gclid=CjwKCAjwkYGVBhArEiwA4sZLuOG2VXZczWyo9QTbNlkmFsNmGYWLCbH4FqrA7Xm--ybpakDoMQCOvhoCCbIQAvD_BwE
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Many many years back I went to a practice in a church and plugged, via the PA into a HK D.A.R.T wedge - I started a thread about why a clean sterile PA sound sounded so much better to my ears than all the bass rigs I had had at that point. An interesting conversation followed. I became interested in a cleaner less coloured sound. ACME B2 was pretty good. There were a few people on here building simple, and cheap-ish to make cabs using some newish driver... I think there were a few people asking the theoretical question - bolt a horn on that and a crossover and what does the high end, not going for the cheapest components, sound like. @stevie can correct me but I think that is the design aim of the cab. I'm fairly sure I could use it as a stand in of a PA speaker in an emergency. As @Bill Fitzmaurice points out, his cab (whichever one he's useing currently!) isn't FRFR because it's voiced to sound as he wants it to. I think that's great and in a lot of situations the best solution for a bass cab. However my cab is, or trying to be, FRFR so what made me buy the kit off Stevie rather than building one of Bill's Jack Lites, or buying something nice? Well a lot of my playing currently is at church, straight into the PA with no backline... some "amp and cab tone" is added to my signal using a HX stomp (other pedals are available) and for me, the sound out of my cab sounding in the same ballpark of the sound I'll hear out of the FOH is quite useful.
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Tuning amazing. Saddle height ok. Am not looking forward to needing to change intonation. Or learn to use those bollard things to be honest!
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I’ve not changed the strings on mine yet… but
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Allen-key-less string retainers on my bass, not headless but kinda … anyway - I’m not sure how useful that is to the thread but it will suscribe me to updates so that’s good!
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I mean no one asked for my opinion but maple neck and painted headstocks 🤮
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Thing is though - AtelierZ, for all their brilliance…. They don’t have David Wilson
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Wow - I had seen that on Facebook and wondered what and whose it was - it looks amazing - chat colour is it? Metallic or is it some kind of candy finish?
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Thanks to @greenolive and this thread I started looking at Leduc basses, due to getting the names muddled up I ended up with a Lefay 🤪🤣
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Shot up loads in last few years - though some of that I think is down to macro economic stuff as much as anything. If a brand new stingray is now £3k that kinda makes sense. I was thinking about buying a 60s fender two or three years back… I didn’t because… - prices were starting to mental and I quickly couldn’t afford it - I was spotting a lot of behaviour that I would file under “dishonest”… eg I almost bought a refin ‘65P from someone I could trust (and should have really, we were only £200 apart), it popped up again a few months later as ‘all original’ at triple the price… I almost bought another off an old guy on eBay with a hideous refin and really distinct damage on the headstock… a few weeks later that neck appeared on reverb on another body as “all original” - and the top end of the market will always have value and collectorability, also there will be also great sounding instruments which will have value because of they sound great… but I was reading an article the other day about people leaving expensive antique furniture to family in their wills and it ending up getting binned… because the following generations live in smaller houses and flats - the things that one generation values isn’t necessarily what the next will - and you are banking on millennials and younger not only playing bass but also valuing the 60s golden years of their grandparents generation as worth the extra over something made new. Again the top end of the market won’t be affected but I don’t think you can gaurentee values are going to rise constantly- (esp when all the generation meantioned with massive guitar collections start dying and all those guitars come onto the market…)
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