LukeFRC

So far the tracks shared have mostly been of a type of rock where the Rickenbacker sound works really well ... but interesting not music I ever really listen too... this though sounds great and where he’s got it sat in the mix is just perfect - I mean being the most famous bass player in the world, and being the man man and songwriter helps but that is a good bass sound

Ooo actually I imagine with flats they could go into some interesting sonic territories that others couldn’t reach.

Busy and overplaying aren’t the same thing IMO

Maybe - but we probably did that last week didn’t we? Honestly want to know what they are good for and what kinda sounds you get from them

So a local guy offered me a 4003 in a trade for one of my Warwick’s - looked nice but what an odd thing to play, arrow straight neck, random bits of metalwork in the way, and a kinda non descript sound .... finger style it was meh, it wasn’t built to slap and there was a bit of a nicer grind when using my fingernails like a pick... I hated it. So I figured... ild ask here... what are they good for? (video links help too )

Utterly OT but my grandad gave me his oil stone the other week so turn of C19th in its old wooden box - only used it to sharpen a chisel but might rethink my technique following Christine’s OP

I think the key here is that when the keys and electric overplayed on their own it sounded great and improved a bit of a bland song - when they all did it it was awful. In church bands there is a problem of musicians wanting to show off and not having learned the ability to listen and leave space for others

this is really good - thanks @bubinga5

Could you not have used that template mouldthing you’ve got? Put it in there and the only gap between the body and the template would be the routing channel - or would that not put enough pressure on it?

RE: no spraybooth ive done several projects with rattle cans, but for my stingrayish building followed @Andyjr1515 s advice and used chestnut’s sanding sealer and melamine lacquer- I stained the body using water colour concentrated pigment and wiped on the finishes and achieved a reasonably good gloss- if I had used less I could have got a decent non gloss finish. Andy in his next build used some Osmo product that I ended up investigating and using their top oil for my kitchen work tops... that also is very very good stuff

The plane thing would be good - own one but it’s so merging I haven’t worked out yet. I say that s as someone who can turn my hand and pick up most everything to a mediocre level ... but this plane evades me!

thanks Christine. This should be pinned

.... and the FOH is coming from the DI box the tech uses...

Headphones for practice?

I think it’s true for all amps of all classes. It’s more a point that if you are comparing a 100w valve amp pushed to gentle distortion and with some nice musical compression it might very well sound louder than a 400w Markbass LM11 which will have comparative little distortion until it hits its limiter. I think I’m with Muzz - in an ideal world valve amps sound nice so we might all have them - then you want something solid state and you can get lighter and debatedly cheaper to run amps, and you know what people design in different electronic designs to get different sounds... some of them might have a valve in the preamp but that alone doesn’t mean much... some valve preamps are super clean, others designed to add some pleasing valve distortion... but I don’t think having a valve or not is the point - do you like the sound of your Mesa walkabout or do you like the sound of your thunderfunk? I don’t think hybrid or not is the determining factor. Actually - if I wanted a more portable version of a valve amp a Line6 Helix into a FRFR speaker would be another viable option.

I think that the phycoacoustic effects are the crux of the issue. All amplifiers are amplifying a signal - if all worked perfectly then there would be no difference between them - so the bits we are hearing that form a preference are the deficiencies from perfection. I think comparing like for like distortion levels is one of the key things- someone earlier compared a 300w valve ashdown with a solid state of the same preamp and said there wasn’t much difference between them as they weren’t pushing the valve power stage enough... if I took a solid state amp and added some pleasing distortion and some gentle compression like you would get in an all valve amp would you tell the difference? (Which I guess is part of the point of hybrid amps) silmiarly class D get a bad press as when turned up beyond the clean limits a class AB adds distortion (which make it seem louder) where as a class D just runs out of power. Hence “class D has no heft” is as much about the phycoacoustic effects as the amplification system.

In this test Are you measuring it to achieve the same level of distortion?

I like to think each bass has its own amp 😃

Thing is it’s not really killing rock and roll is it? It’s the logical next step on the question of lightweight high volume speakers and amps with more and more digital technology in it. Like when it came out a TC electronics RH450 or 750 footswutch and a set of speaker cabs wasn’t a million miles from what BigRedX spent on his rig .... and essentially they are doing the same thing... just one is a hell of a lot more limited than the other