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Joe Osborne Here are a few of the tracks he was on that some of you may have heard once or twice.... Arranged By Year - Artist - Title - US Chart Position 1961 - Rick Nelson - Travelin’ Man - 1 1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - This Diamond Ring - 1 1965 - Barry Maguire - Eve Of Destruction - 1 1966 - Mamas & Papas - Monday Monday - 1 1966 - Johnny Rivers - Poor Side Of Town - 1 1967 - Association - Windy - 1 1969 - Fifth Dimension - Wedding Bell Blues - 1 1969 - Tommy Roe - Dizzy - 1 1970 - Carpenters - Close To You - 1 1970 - Neil Diamond - Cracklin’ Rose - 1 1970 - Partridge Family - I Think I Love You - 1 1970 - Simon And Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water - 1 1972 - Helen Reddy - I Am Woman - 1 1973 - Carpenters - Top Of The World - 1 1973 - Helen Reddy - Delta Dawn – 1 1974 - Carpenters - Please Mr. Postman – 1 1964 - Johnny Rivers - Memphis - 2 1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Count Me In - 2 1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Save Your Heart For Me - 2 1967 - Mamas & Papas - Dedicated To The One I Love - 2 1968 - Association - Never My Love - 2 1968 - Richard Harris - Macarthur Park - 2 1970 - Carpenters - Superstar - 2 1970 - Carpenters - We’ve Only Just Begun - 2 1970 - Fifth Dimension - One Less Bell To Answer - 2 1971 - Carpenters - Rainy Days And Mondays - 2 1972 - Carpenters - Hurting Each Other - 2 1973 - Carpenters - Yesterday Once More - 2 1976 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - I’d Really Love To See You Tonight – 2 1966 - Johnny Rivers - Secret Agent Man - 3 1967 - Johnny Rivers - Baby I Need Your Lovin’ - 3 1968 - Fifth Dimension - Stone Soul Picnic - 3 1968 - Monkees - Valleri - 3 1969 - Bobby Sherman - Little Women - 3 1971 - Carpenters - For All We Know - 3 1973 - Carpenters - Sing - 3 1973 - Helen Reddy - Leave Me Alone – 3 1965 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Everybody Loves A Clown - 4 1966 - Mamas & Papas - California Dreamin’ - 4 1967 - Scott Mackenzie - San Francisco - 4 1974 - America - Tin Man - 4 1975 - Carpenters - Only Yesterday – 4 1962 - Rick Nelson - Teenage Idol - 5 1962 - Rick Nelson – Young World - 5 1966 - Mamas & Papas - Words Of Love - 5 1967 - Mamas & Papas – Creeque Alley - 5 1968 - Grass Roots - Midnight Confession - 5 1968 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Just Dropped In - 5 1970 - Bobby Sherman - Julie - Do You Love Me - 5 1974 - Neil Diamond - Longfellow Serenade - 5 1975 - America - Lonely People - 5 1977 – Kenny Rogers - Lucille – 5 1962 - Rick Nelson - It’s Up To You - 6 1964 - Rick Nelson – For You - 6 1966 - Mamas & Papas - I Saw Her Again - 6 1966 - Tommy Roe - Hurray For Hazel - 6 1969 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Ruby - 6 1969 - Neil Diamond - Holly Holy - 6 1970 - Barbra Streisand - Stoney End - 6 1972 - Johnny Rivers - Rockin’ Pneumonia - 6 1971 - Partridge Family - Doesn’t Somebody Want To Be Wanted – 6 1965 - Johnny Rivers - Seventh Son - 7 1967 - Fifth Dimension - Up Up And Away - 7 1969 - Simon & Garfunkel - The Boxer - 7 1971 - Tommy Roe - Stagger Lee - 7 1972 - Carpenters - Goodbye To Love – 7 1966 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Green Grass - 8 1968 - Boyce & Hart - I Wonder What She’s Doin’ Tonight - 8 1969 - Tommy Roe - Jam Up - Jelly Tight - 8 1972 - America - Ventura Highway - 8 1972 - Fifth Dimension - Didn’t Get To Sleep At All - 8 1975 - Helen Reddy - No Way To Treat A Lady – 8 1961 - Rick Nelson - Hello Mary Lou - 9 1964 - Johnny Rivers - Mountain Of Love - 9 1967 - Spanky & Our Gang - Sunday Will Never Be The Same - 9 1969 - Bobby Sherman - La La La - 9 1970 - Bobby Sherman - Easy Come Easy Go - 9 1971 - Grass Roots - Sooner Or Later - 9 1971 - Partridge Family - I’ll Meet You Halfway - 9 1973 - Art Garfunkel - All I Know - 9 1973 - B.W. Stevenson - My Maria - 9 1974 - Helen Reddy - You And Me Against The World - 9 1975 - Austin Roberts - Rocky - 9 1978 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - We’ll Never Have To Say Goodbye Again - 9 1982 - Sylvia - Nobody – 9 1967 - Johnny Rivers - Tracks Of My Tears - 10 1968 - Association – Everything That Touches You - 10 1970 - Mark Lindsay - Arizona - 10 1972 - Fifth Dimension - If I Could Reach You - 10 1976 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - Nights Are Forever – 10 1961 - Rick Nelson - A Wonder Like You - 11 1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Somethin’s Burnin’ - 11 1974 - Carpenters - I Won’t Last A Day Without You - 11 1963 - Rick Nelson - Fools Rush In - 12 1964 - Johnny Rivers - Maybelle - 12 1968 - Cass Elliott - Dream A Little Dream - 12 1971 – Fifth Dimension - Never My Love - 12 1972 - Carpenters - It’s Going To Take Some Time - 12 1972 - Austin Roberts - Something’s Wrong With Me - 12 1973 - Helen Reddy - Peaceful - 12 1976 - Carpenters - There’s A Kind Of Hush – 12 1966 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - My Heart Symphony - 13 1968 - Fifth Dimension - Sweet Blindness - 13 1971 - Helen Reddy - I Don’t Know How To Love Him - 13 1972 - Partridge Family - I Woke Up In Love This Morning - 13 1967 - Johnny Rivers - Summer Rain - 14 1966 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Paint Me A Picture - 15 1969 - Grass Roots - I’d Wait A Million Years - 15 1971 - Grass Roots - Temptation Eyes - 15 1974 - Helen Reddy - Keep On Singing – 15 1961 - Rick Nelson – Ever Lovin’ - 16 1967 - Fifth Dimension - Go Where You Wanna Go - L 6 1971 - Grass Roots - Two Divided By Love - 16 1971 - Bobby Sherman - Cry Like A Baby - 16 1981 - Carpenters - Touch Me When We’re Dancin’ – 16 1968 - Spanky & Our Gang - Like To Get To Know You - 17 1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Tell It All Brother - 17 1975 - Carpenters - Solitaire – 17 1976 - Art Garfunkel - I Only Have Eyes For You – 18 1966 - Johnny Rivers - Muddy Water - 19 1968 - Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Sealed With A Kiss - 19 1969 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - But You Know I Love You - 19 1970 - Glen Campbell - Honey Come Back - 19 1971 - Fifth Dimension - Love Lines Angels & Rhymes - 19 1976 - Helen Reddy - Somewhere In The Night - 19 1982 - Michael Murphy - What’s Forever For – 19 1965 - Johnny Rivers - Midnight Special - 20 1967 - Mamas & Papas – Twelve Thirty - 20 1969 - Fifth Dimension - Workin’ On A Groovy Thing - 20 1970 - Michael Parks - Long Lonesome Highway - 20 1972 - Partridge Family - It’s One Of Those Nights - 20 1977 - Olivia Newton John - Sam – 20 1967 – Gary Lewis & The Playboys - Where Will Words Come From - 21 1970 - Fifth Dimension - Blowing Away - 21 1977 – England Dan & John Ford Coley - It’s Sad To Belong – 21 1975 - Helen Reddy - Emotion – 22 1967 - Grass Roots - Things I Should Have Said - 23 1967 - Tommy Roe - It’s Now Winter’s Day - 23 1969 - Glen Campbell - Try A Little Kindness - 23 1977 - England Dan & John Ford Coley - Gone Too Far - 23 1966 - Mamas & Papas - Look Through My Window - 24 1967 - Scott Mackenzie - Like An Old Time Movie - 24 1969 - Grass Roots – Heaven Knows - 24 1970 - Fifth Dimension - Puppet Man - 24 1970 - Bobby Sherman - Hey Mr. Sun – 24 1963 - Rick Nelson - String Along - 25 1969 - Fifth Dimension - California Soul - 25 1970 - Mark Lindsay - Silver Bird – 25 1976 - Carpenters - I Need To Be In Love - 26 1964 - Rick Nelson - The Very Thought Of You - 26 1965 - Johnny Rivers - Where Have All The Flowers Gone - 26 1967 - Glen Campbell - By The Time I Get To Phoenix - 26 1967 - Mamas & Papas - Glad To Be Unhappy - 26 1969 - Glen Campbell - Where’s The Playground Suzie - 26 1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Reuben James - 26 1968 - Boyce & Hart - Alice Long - 27 1970 - Glen Campbell - All I Have To Do Is Dream - 27 1970 - Fifth Dimension - Save The Country – 27 1966 - Grass Roots - Where Were You When I Needed You - 28 1969 - Grass Roots - Bella Linda - 28 1972 - Partridge Family - Breaking Up Is Hard To Do – 28 1968 - Fifth Dimension - Carpet Man - 29 1969 - Tommy Roe - Heather Honey - 29 1971 - Bobby Sherman - The Drum – 29 1968 - Spanky & Our Gang - Sunday Morning - 30 1969 - Cass Elliott - It’s Getting Better – 30 1967 - Spanky & Our Gang – Makin’ Every Minute Count - 31 1969 - Grass Roots - The River Is Wide - 31 1971 - Glen Campbell - Dream Baby - 31 1974 - Albert Hammond - I’m A Train – 31 1970 - John Philips - Mississippi - 32 1973 - Fifth Dimension – Living Together, Growing Together - 32 1977 - Carpenters - Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft – 32 1966 - Johnny Rivers - Under Your Spell Again - 33 1970 - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition - Heed The Call - 33 1976 - Olivia Newton John - Don’t Stop Believin’ – 33 1967 - Fifth Dimension - Paper Cup - 34 1972 - Grass Roots - Glory Bound - 34 1973 - Neil Diamond - Be - 34 1974 - Art Garfunkel - Second Avenue – 34 1969 - Glen Campbell – True Grit - 35 1970 - Grass Roots - Baby Hold On - 35 1973 - America - Don’t Cross River - 35 1975 - Helen Reddy - Bluebird - 35 1977 - Carpenters - All You Can Get From Love – 35 1968 - Glen Campbell - I Want To Live - 36 1969 - Glen Campbell - Let It Be Me - 36 1969 - Cass Elliott - Make Your Own Kind Of Music – 36 1972 - Fifth Dimension - Together Let’s Find Love – 37 1974 - Art Garfunkel - I Shall Sing - 38 1975 - Johnny Rivers - Blue Suede Shoes – 38 1967 - Boyce & Hart - Out And About - 39 1968 - Association - Time For Lovin’ - 39 1968 - Glen Campbell - Gentle On My Mind - 39 1972 - Grass Roots – The Runaway - 39 1973 - Partridge Family - Look Through The Eyes Of Love – 39 1966 - The Turtles - You Baby - 40 I think its fair to say he is something of an unsung hero of bass....

[quote name='pantherairsoft' timestamp='1317231262' post='1388474'] Phase is always an issue - Spent a looooooong time making sure the impact surface of those mics were all exactly the same distance from the speaker. Seemed to work! [/quote] That'll do it! Never forget your handy piece of string

cripes - just saw the piccie - thats the one, my back hurts just looking at it.....

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1317216064' post='1388189']Its just being practical. If they don't want the drummer to use his bass drum then they are effectively telling us what brushes we should use (excuse me if the analogy is getting complicated). At this point the talking from the audience is starting to drown out the singer. [b]The customer stops being the customer when you say you don't want payment and leave so they haven't lost out. We lost out on an evening when we could have been doing something else. Its got nothing to do with egos or things getting thrown out of prams. Its more to do with five people agreeing that someone is being unreasonable and making a decision[/b].[/quote] It doesnt matter what the job is you've just described walking out on the job, which is never the professional solution to the problem. It always comes across as throwing your toys out of the pram, however calmly you do it. Like it or not, unreasonable or not, that is the perception you will give.

Master of Puppets was a phenomial album - had a listen today as away of saying RIP, still superb after all this time...

The old HH 215s weighed about 15 tonnes each! Is it one with a front cover that clips in place for trasnport? If so its only good for about 200w (and thats being generous) and is a complete backbreaker (ask my osteopath), and my one never ever sounded 'fantastic', passable yes, fantastic no.... I would be looking for £50 realistically, maybe £100 if you're lucky (mine cost £100 s/h in immaculate condition, in 1992).

[quote name='barneyg42' timestamp='1317196217' post='1387785'] Two hour lecture on compression last year and you summed it up here in one sentence! ITS ALL LIES. [/quote] Only possible because of the 2 hour lecture the year before you understand.....

No worries, you'll be fine, use your ears and feel for the attack getting choked and ease off a bit. No problem chaps!

Pre EQ I can completely understand.... If you use a lot of fx and rely on a bit of tube from the LH500 (great amps by the way, very very clean tube preamp) then ask the sound guy nicely and he will mic your cab. With a bit of luck (and a beer) he may well DI the bass pre fx too and run the bottom end of that alone with the top end from the cab resulting in a phenominal bass sound (if he knows his beans)

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1317149804' post='1387417'] Finally got out of that ****ing bass case, honestly, children! That was fun - sorry if I seemed a little frantic / confused / curiously lucky... As my band is on hiatus due to excessive Barefaced busyness (sic) I find myself drawn to monopolising the jam room on the one hand, whilst being aware that I should talk to people about the cabs. Hopefully I struck the right balance this year by keeping myself from playing drums badly! Was this the third one of these? They're starting to feel like school reunions for a school I wish I'd gone to (apart from the male:female ratio!) Fancy starting a Brighton-based two bass band Si? [/quote] Yes. Definitely...

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[quote name='mcgraham' timestamp='1317138197' post='1387245'] It's looking like it's going to be sometime in November. You can vote on the potential date in the event thread! It'd be good to have you along if you can make it. I'll even buy you a beverage of your choice. Be warned I will pick your brain on recording various instruments![/quote] I make no promises at all, and if I came I would be travelling very light (bass only I would think).... In the meantime just ask quesiton sin the recording forum, and I'll do my best to come up with vaguely useful answers

[quote name='mcgraham' timestamp='1317065823' post='1386366']Sorry to disappoint! Fancy the drive to Notts for the Notts bass bash?.... maybe Brighton is a bit far to come from.[/quote] Thats a very very long way.... When is is?

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1317132799' post='1387137'] Try disabling AVAST! for a quick test. See if that makes any difference. [/quote] [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1317132841' post='1387141'] ..and then try Chrome or Firefox. It'll take less than five minutes of your time. [/quote] +1 Tying this on Safari running on a PC, I hate this browser with a passion, but at 2 minutes to install worth the effort to see if I can at least see some evidence of odd typing latency. There is none, my machine has similar enough specs to yours, and I've now tried the site on IE9, IE8, FF6.0, Chrome 14 & Opera 11.51 and haven't seen the issue you describe with any of them. What can I say, I have to hoard browsers (and even browser versions) at work. Disable avast, remove any add on toolbars you may have, restart the machine and try again (then remember to re-enable avast before anything scary happens) No to consign this awful POS software to the depths of Hades once again where it belongs.....

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1317127887' post='1387056'] No arguments there, like in any job you do as you are told. and just like in a lot of jobs the person in charge can act like a twat, have no idea of whats going on and always blame someone else. My point was that while the landlord may have the ultimate word in what volume you play at, that doesnt mean the band are any less professional because they are asked to turn down. You can read a room but not second guess someone you have never met. Just going on experience (and common sense).[/quote] I didnt say a band was unprofessional for being asked to turn down (within reason, if they are stupid loud they are stupid fullstop IMO). Hoever any band arguing or refusing to turn down when asked are unprofessional and should not expect to be asked back.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1317127796' post='1387052'] If you are good quality band who can get a significant number of people to drink in his pub who otherwise would not go there (and potentially return to see other bands if they had a good time), then obviously it is the landlord who is losing out the most! Tha band (if any good) can always go and play at a more suitable venue, again taking trade away from the original pub.....[/quote] There are plenty of bands and only a few venues though.....

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1317127018' post='1387032']Am I the only one who thinks 51mon has found himself a new avatar? [attachment=90353:Simon on Fruit.jpg][/quote] Not a new avatar, but definitely my new ickle fwend......

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1317125479' post='1386989'] I agree with BottomE. Some will expect you to play at the volume they want you to play, disregarding that you (may be) are a professional band that do know what your doing and have set your levels to reach just the right spot in the room. We do loads of social clubs and always, always, get told to turn down by some people and moaned at by others who cant hear us. Whose right? We judge the room by the audiences reactions and if too many down the front are putting fingers in ears etc we will turn down, but now were are being dictated to by old people sitting near the front. That doesnt mean we are too loud, just too loud for some people who refuse to move and spoil it for others. Of course there are those idiots that cant turn down, or have no idea peoples ears are bleeding but its not always the band thats in the wrong just because someone says they are too loud. Then again, if its the guy who is paying you then you should oblige if you want more gigs/paying etc.[/quote] Well there in lies the rub. He is paying you to play in his venue. You are taking on the work, as paid for. For the duration of that work he is your boss. It is actually that simple, you may not like it but that is the case. Just like he can ask his staff to all wear the uniform he dictates, to not waste time having more than one cigarette an hour etc etc. He may be an inveterate old rocker, god father of Lemmy and deaf as a post and desire nothing less than the unleashing of the total thunder that you are happy to deliver, or he may be the boss of a pub and assume that you can play as quietly as he wants. If you cant he can ask you to shut up and leave. That is his perogative, since it is his venue, and you either play by his rules or you walk. It doesnt actually matter if you think he is a fool for trying you, it doesnt matter if you cant bring yourself to play quietly for a pub night, it doesnt matter how well you can or cannot play. Hell he can tell you he doesnt want you to play because he doesnt like how you are dressed. the fact is bottom line, he is responsible for the venue, even if he is 'just some manager of a single pub in a big pub chain (moreso then even because he has to keep that chain's name good) Fact is if you want the gigs, and the cash he is willing to pay for you to play, then you have to play by his rules in this. If you dont then you wont get asked back. Who exactly do you think is really losing out if you dont get asked back?

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1317027017' post='1385488'] Yes it's got be my PC, right? Perhaps it's because it's too new and too fast for this? [IMG]http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/xt660/286251dc.jpg[/IMG] And I am also on a Virgin optic 50Meg broadband, honestly guv every other site and fori I visit is flying, I have no idea why BC runs slow on my pc[/quote] If you are experiencing typing latency it is something your end not playing nice. Which version of what browser are you using? What type of security software are you using? (Certain types of security software sniff javascript events and can inject code to try and work out what is going on and keep everything 'safe' and/or intercept requests and parse them. Typically if you havent got that sort of thing getting in the way then IME typing latency is something going a bit haywire in the browser because it just doesnt get on with some of the data structures being passed about and held on to in the page. It used to be the case that older IE versions and FF versions got very tied up by this sort of thing. In recent years (since IE7, FF3) this has been less and less of an issue as javascript performance have become important for bragging rights between browser coders. The one thing I think it isnt is down to the server having had load in your case. Very unusual, do you have a browser capable of laoding plugins at all? If so try disabling them (yup all), if that makes a differenc, then turn thm back on one at a time and see if one of them is the culprit. Only other thing to try is a completely different browser. if that shows the same issues, then its something other than the browser, but its still your end, I'm afraid.

Ah yes the infamous lewd example of kick drum mic phase issues.... Mary Whitehouse would have been up in arms!

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1317121009' post='1386896'] Too simplistic. You make the assumption that the person who's paying, the landlord, knows what they are doing.[/quote] The landlord knows exactly what he wants. He wants entertainment that can pull punters in without stopping them buying drinks. If you cant provide that without being so loud that he risks alienating his customers or neighbours or getting nasty visits from the council then you can expect to be told exactly where to go. He can expect you to know what you are doing and play at a volume appropriate to his pub and his clientelle. That would be why he is paying you and not the other way round.

[quote name='mcgraham' timestamp='1317040201' post='1385755'] I wish I'd brought (or had the space to bring) my Berg IP112 and EX112 stack to compare against some rigs. I used it in anger twice on Sunday and it was fantastic. I asked the FOH team if the rig was too loud and they said 'no, definitely not.... that said, it was VERY loud, but it sounded so good we couldn't bring ourselves to have you turn down' this = winning in my book. ...Next bass bash, it'll come along. [/quote] That IP stack is a killer rig, I wish you'd brought it along too!

[quote name='gemdids' timestamp='1317051509' post='1386002'] Thumbs up for the above. I'll be looking to buy a laptop at the back end of this week so in the meantime I'll do some research to effectivly get the most for my money. The M Audio interfaces are fairly cheap on ebay, I'll probably end up getting one although I did have a bit of a drool over the RME's. I do love having two kidneys though I'm really taken with the idea of Reaper at the moment, a friend has been raving on about it for a while. I'm going to give the 30 day trial a whirl when I get set up and see what it's like, it'll either be that or Cubase 5. Does Reaper come with preloaded VSTs or are these an additional purchase?[/quote] Reaper comes with one some great vsts, and a bunch of other scripted effects (you can learn the programming and add more if you like). They are superb, the EQ in there is exceptional, the compressor is too, there are a mass of other great tools that come with it. On top of those I regularly use free VSTs from:- Bootsy, Variety of Sound (the best free vsts on the net IMO, get them all!) TAL series (assorted, great delays and a lovely plate reverb) TLS series (lovely compressors) Molot (a very tasty compressor) SIR (a convolution reverb player - download the Bricasti Impulses that are free on the web, best reverbs you will get to use in the box) Fishfillets (compressor, de-esser, noise-gate - the de-esser and compressor are superb) G series (assorted, I use the brickwall limiter GMax for mastering) PushTec and SonEQ (eqs) Voxengo (Span for metering,. GEQ for a linear phase EQ) Audio damage ROugh Rider compressor Beta Bugs (Monsta Chorus, Phase Bug) Jeroen Breebart (barricade, broadcast, ferox, PC2 etc)

Come on chaps. This is a server side load related intermittent issue. Give the guys a break, it will resolve when the migration is complete.

I knew a drummer who had a kit set up for quiet gigs, smallest shells he could get hold of, he put a pillow inside the snare drum, took the bottom skin off the toms, replaced the batter skin with the heaviest oil filled heads he could, and put a single (actually it might have been a double duvet) duvet in the kick drum. Halved the volume of the kit, sure it didnt sound as nice, but it was really quiet, meant he coul dplay with sticks, and in a mix didnt sound too bad at all.... He was a really really busy drummer too.