Ou7shined

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1368228092' post='2074819'] I was. The first thing I did when I bought my secondhand Jap crap, Precision, copy, in 1979, was to fit a set of DiMarzios. It was the done thing back then as you have now found out. [/quote] And I'm sure still goes on to this day. Was actually referring to a spate of identical unbranded (as in shipped with no name on the headstock) P basses with cream Dm's not home modded ones.

[quote name='The Bass Doc' timestamp='1367775256' post='2069322'] I reckon Ou7shined is leading the bidding [/quote] Haha no thanks. I've had to stop buy pups for basses that don't exist yet as the pup drawer is full to brimming.

[quote name='SimonH' timestamp='1367773505' post='2069290'] Glad we're all friends. Can someone please buy these now? [/quote] We never weren't friends.

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1367772264' post='2069271'] My pickup may, of course, not be the same as yours, Ou7shined. The pickup covers on mine are not firmly attached to the guts in any way, which may indicate that they are from a different source to yours ...... or may not, of course. The pickups you are referring to may be aftermarket copies of the Dimarzio orignal. I suspect we'll never know. These particular pickups I got from FunkShui, who got the bass from Rasta, who actually assembled the bass. You might get more info from him. I do feel for you writing that massive response and finding out it was almost all for nowt. I suspect that we've all done similar in the past. The usual scenario for me is to spend half and hour writing a post, press "post" and then the software crashes ... all lost. [/quote] Yeah I was quite chuffed with it at the time. But hey if the all the info you have at that time doesn't tell 100% of the story then... You know me, I couldn't resist it. I got the g/fs hairdryer out and heated one of them enough to make the resin/stuff soft enough to get the bobbin out. Sure enough DIMARZIO USA. Can't believe I paid £80 for the blondie bass genuine Dimarzio and all ... seen them go for much less too (in worse nick like). Hey at the very least what I've done is highlight yours as being original after all. And I'm obviously over the moon about it too.

Every one of these basses that I've seen has had a cream Dimarzio fitted so I'm going to have to go with the latter.

[quote name='The Bass Doc' timestamp='1367761828' post='2069146'] Don't beat yourself up over the mistaken DM identification - nobody but [i]nobody [/i]knows everything. Just so happens I know more than most The Bass Doc. (*removing covers from pickups since 1964*) [/quote] Haha ta. Just begs the question now, who was putting Dimarzios in these unbranded basses?

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1367755958' post='2069062'] OK, well I've just had a look under the covers and moulded into the cream covers is "Dimarzio USA", so I'm still pretty confident that these are the real deal. [/quote] Haha that's pretty compelling evidence. My bad. Took me frickin ages to write that ^ too in the state my head is in. "[i]Ah! Well, prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame, set at gas mark "egg on your face"![/i]" I wish Bassassin was still about as it was him that put me in my place about them before. If only we'd had the guts to pry open the covers ourselves, we could have saved a lot of server space. Ah well mystery solved. Got me some Dimarzios. Nice one.

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1367737218' post='2068778'] OK, fair enough. I'm no expert on these things. But how absolutely certain are you that these are the pickups you are describing, as you have not actually seen, held or played them ? There seem to be a lot of "ifs" and "buts" and "inconclusives" in your post. A PM might also have been a more tactful way to potentially sabotage my sale, which it might well do, as most bass-savvy buyers in the UK read here as well as ebay. At the moment, unless I have more compelling evidence, I will stick to my Dimarzio description as that is what they were sold to me as. If you can guide me to any discussion, pics etc online about the pickups you are describing I would be most interested to read it. cheers. [/quote] With the utmost respect and without wishing to get drawn too deeply into this... as we all know how these things end (or at least how they were heading when I used to be on here all the time) The reason I'm 99.999999% certain that these are the same pups is because you were kind enough to post a pic of them, and as I'm sure you will agree they are quite distinct in appearance. You are quite right that there are if and buts in my post but this is because I prefer to deal with known facts - I will always offer the benefit of doubt to the opposing party no matter how certain I am in my own mind or how wrong I know they are (now ask me what I think about monotheism. lol). As you pointed out I have not actually seen, held or played those actual pups you have in your possession, these are compelling points to your side of the discussiont and I bow to your personal experience regarding them however will you concede that given your picture and description I may draw comparisons to others which appear identical in every respect? I genuinely have no interest in sabotaging your thread bud. If that was my inexplicably random intention I would have said something on day one. The reason I posted was because you had stated that the pups were now withdrawn from sale on here. For my point of view looking at the big picture, if future Basschaters were to research these pups (as I did a few years ago) then they could easily stumble across this thread and soon we have a domino effect of misinformation. I have seen these pups go on ebay described as Dimarzios before and there's nothing you, I or anyone can do about that but at least on here we can keep it real for our own bass community. You can choose to believe the guy who sold them to you or me it's no skin off my nose. It was my sole intention to state for the record and to aid future BCers that the providence of these pups is (at the very least) questionable - this is not to take anything away from the fact that they can be very tasty pups if you get a good one. If they said Dimarzio on them then it's an open and shut case and everyone's happy - none more so than myself. Unfortunately they don't and as yet have we no proof that they are. What they are is what they are. It would be a shame for someone to buy them for what they aren't, as I'm sure you'll agree. I'm not sure you will accept this as any form of proof or evidence pointing you in the right direction but for your interest and maybe others, this fine hungover morning I have for your delight and delectation opened up the 2 basses that I have which I believe to have the same pups in. Am I still talking out of my butt? Although it's not too easy to see, the fretless' pup has the same red, green, black, white wiring configuration. The blonde is the original bass for these pups (the maple thumbrest is my own addition) and since buying it I have seen 4 or 5 identical ones on the bay... all with no name on the headstock. If you are still 100% sure these are Dimarzios then fine. We'll agree to dissagree for now. Howard may well be correct with his assumption of the US connection. At the time I was looking into the pups we concluded the same possibility but agreed it more likely that with so many of these mystery "no name" basses in UK circulation that the basses themselves probably originated east of here... even mainland Europe... again speculation. I have not been able to see under the covers are they are all very securely potted and hacking into them could damage the windings. The "Patent applied For" sticker may well indicate a Stateside origin but again afaic it's not 100% conclusive to saying they are genuine Dimarzios. Oy vey

No joke. They come from no name Jap imports. They litterally have no name on the headstock. They do resemble Dimarzio's though and probably are 70's or 80's vintage and may well have been produced under licence. However, the research I (and other more Japcrap savy folk) carried into them was inconclusive. Now here's the thing... I actually like these pups. In fact I have a couple in my own private stock (one still resides in it's original bass... which I paid £80 for and was possibly over the odds considering, but I liked the bass) . The rub is that one holds more definition than the other. So my guess is that wherever they were made, they didn't have consistency in mind during the manufacturing process. The upshot is that they have balls... but they aren't Dimarzio.

As this is no longer for sale on here... it's not a Dimarzio. None the less they sound pretty nice.