Alec

Unfortunately, and especially at the cheaper end of the market, every penny counts. So, a few pounds on the build cost would likely be considered waay too much cost eating into margins. Indeed, best to keep to facts, rather than Euro-myths. And, sadly, there are still amps/cabs being brought to market today with just jacks..

Speakons have easily been around since then. Sadly, bass amps were slow to adopt - particularly US models. Its also common to find cheaper amps/cabs still stuck in their jack plug world. In fact, for guitar amps, I think it's even worse, sadly...

It baffles me why jacks are still being used in amps - other than saving a few pennies and not being new fangled. I'd go as far as to say that I wouldn't buy and amp/cab that didn't use Speakons

Indeed, and long may people carry on being helpful to those genuinely seeking help - there's a lot of capability out here... 😊

Er, sorry, this post shows where it's all gone off the rails in the past - is that really someone who's just trying to sort out a PA system? He had so much well meaning input, and this happened a few times in a few different places. Thankfully, most of the more bizarre and personal attacks have been removed by mods. Sadly, it's made me much more suspicious - generally with good cause...

Class D amps are often "flattering" to their power output ratings but, as long as you don't go too low, they're ample. Whether my RH450 is really 450 watts or whether it's the far less value that others claim, I don't really care, as it goes waaay louder than I'll ever need. As to weight, everything's changed for bass players in the last 10 years. While I'd normally gig with my 2x12, I'll do rehearsals and some smaller gigs with my GenzBenz STL-10T. It's one trip from the car, but the cab is the lightest item, followed by the head, and the bass is the heaviest - since when could that ever have been a thing... I used to love my old Trace 4x10 combo, but would *never* return to anything that weighed 60kg again!

No complaints for me - and, in my view, the speaker is going to contribute more to the "girth" (or otherwise) that you're seeing. The things I particularly love about my RH450 are its (lack of) size/weight, the built-in tuner, compressor and valve tone. Having played with it in anger with my NEOX 212T cab, I barely tickle the power available in regular gigging use.

Trust me - you won't...

Of course this is the wrong place, but everyone's just a bit too helpful for their own good. All this started on SoundOnSound.com, moved to GearSlutz, now sadly here...

Status Graphite were also in Witham in the early 90s, when I went to pick the wood for my dreamed of Empathy. I'm never going back from Class D/Neo - my back couldn't take it. Yup, as a youth I dreamt of a Status bass and a TE amp - the absolute ultimate british bass dream. In the end, the amp came first, and the bass followed. Both gave me much pleasure until my Class D/Neo epiphany, where I couldn't lose the TE quickly enough, and have never regretted it for a second. The bass, a fine Empathy, however, some 25 years on, is most definitely a keeper...

Same here - headroom for days...

As an engineer - this.... You clearly frequent more refined bassist circles than I come across. For all the players with top end kit there are plenty of bassists with crappy kit. I've had a few bassists whose rigs have let them down mid-show. In those cases, an external DI has saved the day. My approach is always to ask the bassist what approach they prefer, and then go with that unless it causes problems in soundcheck. For those that don't know/care, it's always an external DI, unless their head is one I'd know and trust, like a TC Electronic head....

I loved mine when I bought it, but gradually fell out of love as time moved on, and bass amps grew lighter and better. When I compared it with my TC RH450 & Genz Benz STL10T, it was night and day - the new setup was so much lighter and better. Happy to have sold the old BLX on!

Not a question that can be answered. Will depend on the venue, the style of music, the bassist, the other players, and the cab. What works admirably for me, might be completely inadequate for you, and vice versa.

Dredging up an old thread, but I got my Pro17s 6 years ago after using ER20s, and have never looked back. Sadly, I lost them this week, but am straight onto replacing them - they simply make my musical life possible....

Listening with your eyes...

I had the similar issue with my TC RH450 and Genz Benz NEOX-212T. Thankfully, the head has a "preset level", which lets you adjust the level of each of the three presets before they go through the master level control. So, effectively, two casecading level controls. I reduced my preset levels, and so can operate the amp with the master level at more sensible positions. Doesn't change how it sounds - though some people reckoned it did - but works a treat for me...

Not seen Bassics before - is it me, or are those illuminated knobs just nasty? A great idea, with all the candy colours, but surely the light in the centre would dominate and make it hard to see the legend on the front panel, or the actual knob setting?

I've ended up never using the presets for different sounds - but do have one programmed in with *my* basic sound. Like he said, great to have that instantly available when kit sharing. I never have a problem with the overhang obscuring my view. Took a long hard look at it (on top of my 2x12) while playing, and it really didn't get in the way.

I have 4 RCF ART 710s (fairly similar to the HD10) that I use for foldback or even FOH for smaller gigs, but wouldn't really go for one as a gig rig unless it was a fairly low level show. While they deliver a phenomenal HI FI performance, and are ideal for PA, they'd never have enough grunt for bottom end for me - plus the voicing of a typical bass amp is completely different from a flat PA. Don't listen to your doubts, just be happy with your existing bass gear (like that will ever happen! )

Another happy RH450 user here. Yes, the knobs are a flawed design and will eventually lose their grip and fall off if they get any kind of abuse (typically in a bag). But TC will send you replacements free of charge. Alternatively, a turn of tape around the shaft will get a better grip on the knob (fnar fnar). The differentiators of this head for me are the decent built-in chromatic tuner (much more capable than the one in the BH), the immediacy of the Tubetone, and the decent compressor. And the lights round the dials mean no messing about on a dark stage. My one gripe with the RH450, where the compressor is a shift function, is remedied by the RH750. I could never justify replacing my 450 with a 750, but that made it just about perfect in my view. Like Richard above, mine feeds a Genz NEOX212 with more power than I'll ever use. Makes it very handy when we kitshare too...

Years ago I got a Genz Benz STL-10T. *Slightly* smaller than the One10 and about the same weight. Prodigious output, but not enough for a loud band in a big venue (surprise). If I were buying now, I'd probably go for the One10. The Midget might be more capable, but it's bigger, heavier, and double the price. The extra weight alone could well preclude it from your target use. I use a laptop bag for the head (TC RH450) & gubbins. That makes everything a manageable carry - bass on the back, laptop bag over the shoulder, and cab in hand. For the first time in my life, the bass was the heaviest item and the cab was the lightest....

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1507474193' post='3385692'] The standard corner radius in the US is 3/8 inch. [/quote] Which, when converted from US antiquity to International standard units, is 9.525 mm, so pretty close to 10mm