mrtcat

Buy used here. Behringer stuff tends to go bad in batches in my experience and if it's gonna die it'll do it young. I use a few of their bits in the pa rack but have never liked their bass gear. Listen to something first tho as it is a minefield out there littered with cheap crappy combos.

Also your combination of speakers may be causing some cancellation. What drivers are they?

The fact that it cost £23 probably says it all. Run a sine wave tone of about 100hz thru it and, without connecting it to a speaker, use a voltmeter to measure what voltage it puts out with the gain all the way up. Let me know what you get and I'll tell you how powerful it is at 4 & 8 ohm. May be that it's not putting out as much as it claims. Forget changing its power output. You'd be far better off buying an amp designed to put out more.

Your studio recordings have been engineered by a pro no doubt with a heap of experience and tons of nice toys at his / her disposal. They've also had the time and control to adjust the individual sound of every member of the band to fit it all together well. A top notch live engineer would probably get you pretty close to the nirvana you seek. It would however need a solid pa system with a good mixing desk. Most portable pa systems will struggle unless they're a high end set up with subs, tops, 1000s of watts, rta Eq system, nice mic pre's etc etc etc. A very good start for you if you're using a decent pa system would be something like a sansamp bass driver pedal or similar.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1336075494' post='1640633'] I imagine a Genz Streamliner or Ampeg Pro 7 would really push these new modern cabs. [/quote] These are the amps that work well as its a great match up. Alex is the first to say that his cabs love to be pushed hard.

[quote name='GRAHAM SG1' timestamp='1336064580' post='1640440'] You know you want to , the Barefaced Super Twelve will get the best out of the PF500 no worries, I could not believe how much better and louder it sounds than when I used two TC BC212s with it, they farted quite easily and got very muddy as the volume went up and I am not talking about more than halfway on master and gain . [/quote] Agree completely although the barefaced cabs thrive on big watts so your next urge will be for a bigger amp cos you'll feel you're not doing your super 12 justice lol.

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1335825610' post='1636760'] 1) Yes 2) Maybe - buy it from a place that allows you to return it if you're not happy. [/quote] Thats the most complete answer ever lol. Can't add anything of use beyond that.

I guess it depends on your cab choice. Efficiency is key when you lower the amp power.

Get out there and listen. If it sounds good to your ears at war volume then the drivers are irrelevant. Lots of preconceptions out there and a well designed / engineered cab will beat the sledgehammer approach of "big drivers mean big bass" anyday.

I'm cursed with ampeg gear and have always been disappointed with hums, buzzes and rattles. Not a fan of TC cabs tho. I think they're ugly and I don't like the sound. Put the pf500 with a berg or barefaced cab and you may see a difference. Disappointing these days to find an amp struggling with a strong incoming signal.

Not having a decent amp just aint an option for some. I play most fri and sat nights in a function / wedding / pub / club covers band and we take our own PA and gear. We don't do support or have bands support us. 9 times out of 10 the venue is small so bass doesn't go thru the PA system. Therefore I rely on my bass and amp sounding good to give the audience a decent sound to listen to. If you're happy playing support to other bands forever then yeah maybe a nice amp is just a luxury but if you want to get out on your own then you either need a good amp or at least a DI system (cant stand pods etc personally). I agree that it doesn't need to be expensive to sound good as there are some very good sounding lower price amps out there.

Excellent player and a funny chap but although he is very talented I don't think the funkiest player alive would be busking in Newcastle. That doesn't mean he's not very funky player tho and very entertaining to watch.

Sweet amp - enjoy

I f###ing hate that song with a passion but I concede that with most of the pork in the pubs/clubs/parties we play it would go down well. Suck it up.

Have had excellent experiences with bass direct.

Bought tons from them over the last few years and always been very impressed. German efficiency, a ridiculous amount of kit and very competitive price wise.

D'oh wish I'd seen this earlier. Just ordered some PA processors from them and my drummer lives in Wycombe. Sorry

A tad frustrating but at least he had the decency to give you £20. Many people in his situation would just be a [email="tw@t"]tw@t[/email] and either not turn up or refuse to give anything.

My enjoyment in playing comes entirely from playing live in front of audiences that are really enjoying the band. If that means playing covers of songs that I wouldn't choose to listen to at home or when out then so be it. Any time spent practicing at home or recording demos in the studio is purely out of necessity to get us out there playing live. The fact that this approach results in lots of gigs is no accident. The fact that it also results in some decent money is a bonus. I am however far more picky about who I play with. Our current drummer is on borrowed time for sure.

The King Billy in Northampton - rough n ready biker pub which puts on lots of bands (3-4gigs a week). We used a dep drummer as our current guy has made himself unavailable for a few months after the arrival of a new baby. Stand in drummer is a friend of the band and is A-MAY-ZING. Gig went really well especially considering we've only had a few hours with the dep. Dep really enjoyed it and has asked if I'm interested in joining him for an 80's big hair rock project involving wigs, costumes, makeup etc. Oh yes please!!!!

Oops just re read Skankdelvar's post properly to find he already suggests running transmitter after pedals. Sorry

I'm with Skank'swireless idea. It is also possible to run a lead from guitar to pedals and then from pedals into the transmitter pack. The reciever can sit on top of the isolated amp behind the desk.

[b]Sometimes[/b] people who take responsibility for running bands do so because it's the only chance they have to be in charge as they don't have responsibility for anything in their day job. Sadly there's a reason why they don't have responsibility at work and it's usually cos they're not management material. This is then reflected in their non professional style with the band and they simply can't cope and end up pissing people off with shocking communication. No excuse for rudeness tho.