stingrayPete1977

Just because it was recorded on a four string doesn't mean it can be played on a standard four string, drop D or a B bass are quite common, that guy who plays with Bruno mars looks dead cool with his old school p bass, everything I've heard on the record had extended range bass on it, it's the sound the audience know and the sound I want to replicate when playing those songs live.

[quote name='miles'tone' timestamp='1413836845' post='2582658'] I'm very much a Stingray fan and still wake up with night terrors every now and then because I idiotically sold my trans red late '80s stingray years ago :/ As I feel the same way about Jazzes as you feel about Precisions, I'm probably not the best to advise other than the Squier Deluxe active Jazz (in black) does intrigue me. It's got a much wider neck than any Fender 5, 51mm at the nut which I really like the idea of myself. I guess it's just down to what you're after. As long as you factor in a pro set up to tweak them to your preferences, I Don't think you could really go wrong with either the Deluxe J or VM passive J. [/quote] Thanks for the info the vm and deluxe keeps getting a good mention on here, bit more home work online then a shopping trip I think, white fender deluxe V blocks and bound rosewood finger board is top of my list right now, I've got gigs in the diary to pay for it too which is the main thing

Id happily gig every cab and head mentioned in this thread, its all good

Thanks Owen, I will give them a listen

The best bass for build quality I've ever seen was a yamaha BBNE5,the black paint looked almost wet, stunning bass.

Yes I wont rule out a Squier, whenever I have a P I dont get on with them even though all my favourite albums are recorded using one, I know people here who have the opposite with Rays. Which 5 string Squier Jazz should I be trying?

Im not too keen on the pickguard or pickups personally, just a fairly regular Jazz is what I need (want), I like the idea of having a proper Fender but I also really like the Lakland 95-14 which could mean selling one if not two Stingray 5s. Hhmm.

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1413831164' post='2582543'] Outstanding desk research there, Kiwi. Each one of those is an illuminating read. Seems to me that Fender's new regime is trying to throw their oil-tanker into a U-turn. Years spent trying to build a chain end up with Fender $11m out of pocket to their biggest customer. Now what? Hey, it's time to rearrange the deck-chairs and change the strategy to brand-extension. Here's Bono! Buy Fender-branded cream cheese! 300 mins free per month on your Leo-phone [size=2](e&oe)[/size] If anyone wants to know why Fender are in trouble they need only click on the second [url="http://fortune.com/2012/07/20/why-fender-pulled-its-ipo/"]link[/url] from the top. [color=#ffffff].[/color] [/quote] I'm working this weekend but I think I might go and check out some Jazz Vs sooner rather than later, I'm not even joking.

You know over the years Lozz my treble knob is being wound up less and less, since (trying) to play DB I think my ears have been re tuned!

The Stingray 5's B is already a tough act to follow especially unless I go up to 35" A tight B is one thing but I do like the little bit of flap a stingray gives, I mostly play on the fretted E just because I like that sound now, shopping trip is order I think, but I'm determined not to buy another bloody stingray

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1413818889' post='2582307'] Interesting! When I had a (gen 1) BFB Compact, the GB 212T became available at a price that I thought to good to refuse - so I ordered one. At £379 it was half the RRP. I rehearsed it and gigged it - but was totally unable to get a sound that I liked or that was properly audible in the band mix (the support band's bassist used it too). It was also surprisingly heavy - a fact exacerbated by the (back on topic now!) stupidly placed handles! I also found the finish quality to be disappointing. Switching back to the Compact allowed me to find "my sound" straight away and have a one-handed lift! I had the Compact up for sale but after a nifty bit of negotiation decided to keep it and sell the GB instead! That said - I've tried a few of the TKS offerings and have been impressed, and they are available new for the price of a (well) used BFB cab... [/quote] Those were a revamped second generation version of mine and other people have said similar things, maybe there was a reason they halved the priced? I think the production was moved and the finish was not so good, miss matched screws that were too long etc and the coating was changed,The newer style badges fell off on some too I think, I don't mind the side handles, tilt back and roll along on the rubber rattle free wheels, not all things are created equal especially if the axe is about to fall, I presume the drivers are nothing like mine either if it was heavy? I'm glad I didn't "upgrade" my early version now Funnily enough guru Claber rates the early neoxT cab quite highly. Like most brands the first ones are a bit heath Robinson, then they get really good, then the bean counters come in and spoil things, then fender close them down EDIT, JUST CHECKED YOU HAD A NX2T NOT A NeoxT, Different drivers and different covering to mine yet the one you had was actually lighter than a Barefaced at 20.86kgs compared to mine at 24kg.

I've played through an ebs stack with four glinting grilled cabs behind me, Stevie wonder would have made some form of comment about how good they looked

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1413809451' post='2582111'] For an 800 quid cab? I'd want it to look like it cost 800 quid, for a start. [/quote] Yep, you can only get away with less if their is no alternative the Genz is /was very similar in specification and £799 and there are other options with a smarter fit and finish for the same or less.

My Genz neoxT 2x12 is only 24kg, not deal breaking extra weight over the barefaced with a much more professional finish to the cabinet all over. Shame fender killed them off

With any stingray I've found that if I set up a nice finger tone all I need to do for songs with a pick is knock the treble off a little bit, I've always played a mixture of pick and fingers in a set and I mostly only use the treble pot like a tone pot really, there's only so smooth a stingray will go unless as Howiebass says use a bit of palm mute, stingray with the treble off, bass on full, palm muted with a clicky pick action, lovely

[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1413742497' post='2581466'] All this bluster with no facts... Its like listening to LBC [/quote] Exactly, I think we should send someone to stand outside the airport in the rain until there is some more info? "this just in....nothing actually".

[quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1413797501' post='2581889'] I live fairly near the city centre, so it's busy, but there are lots of cycle lanes and it's 2 miles max to any of the venues I use the trailer for. Any further, or having to go on a main road, and I wouldn't use it I don't think. [/quote] I should also add that I'm a lazy fat bastard

People say that but mine is from personal experience Doddy rather than repeating what I've heard in the play ground I'm hoping I will find one for myself as I like the idea of it, opposite of my stingrays, I might even go for a rosewood finger board

Fearless and fearful cabs can be pro built now with custom coatings and they sound brilliant!

Even though I'm fairly sure the fender B string isn't going to do it for me something still makes me want to go and (triple by now) check, so even as a taker or leaver of fender something still makes me want that badge? I'd only want either another squier as a project or a full on USA, stuff in the middle doesn't appeal to my snob side

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1413754872' post='2581641'] I think if I were looking for a great 4 string Jazz I would be looking to find either a Japanese vintage reissue or the older american vintage reissue series, the '75ri or the '62ri. The Roadworns were good and I had a soft spot for the Highway ones too. If I were looking for a great 5 string Jazz I probably wouldn't even look at anything that said Fender on it. Overwater/Valenti/Sadowsky/Lakland/whatever .... [/quote] I think I like the idea of owning a fender again but as it will be a fiver I suspect it will not be one as you have pointed out, I'm going to try a deluxe V again but there's a good chance it's going to be a lakland 55-60 or even a 95-14.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1413745830' post='2581518'] That's right - a messy application can leave glue under the bridge or even on the neck. [/quote] my 2010 Stingray5 has a 'Pearl finish'

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1413736443' post='2581369'] Very good point. Different pricing based on different quality components is one thing, but different build quality is ludicrous really. Imagine buying a car and being told by the dealership that you could have one built properly for one price or built a bit shoddily for a bit less. Quite an odd marketing model when you think about it. [/quote] Exactly that has gone on for years, the trick is keeping the markets separate, SEAT were once cheaply made Fiats, look how that turned out! You can still buy a Hillman Hunter in Iran called a Paykan, it has just replaced the version based on the the Morris Oxford JUST! In this internet age with worldwide shipping it just wouldn't work to sell cheap ones to poorer countries and keep the USA models as a top of the range. When I bought my first Musicman part of the appeal was the lack of budget versions, you knew that your bass could have been next to one Flea was thrashing on the production line, then came OLP, then SUB, then SBMM and now SUB by Sterling, its a total mess heading the same way as Fender. I am genuinely looking to buy a Jazz V fairly soon, I've just been looking on guitar guitar's site and Thomann, I have no idea what I'm looking at regarding where they are built and what to expect?

I was going to say teal green ftw!