stingrayPete1977

Even though I'm fairly sure the fender B string isn't going to do it for me something still makes me want to go and (triple by now) check, so even as a taker or leaver of fender something still makes me want that badge? I'd only want either another squier as a project or a full on USA, stuff in the middle doesn't appeal to my snob side

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1413754872' post='2581641'] I think if I were looking for a great 4 string Jazz I would be looking to find either a Japanese vintage reissue or the older american vintage reissue series, the '75ri or the '62ri. The Roadworns were good and I had a soft spot for the Highway ones too. If I were looking for a great 5 string Jazz I probably wouldn't even look at anything that said Fender on it. Overwater/Valenti/Sadowsky/Lakland/whatever .... [/quote] I think I like the idea of owning a fender again but as it will be a fiver I suspect it will not be one as you have pointed out, I'm going to try a deluxe V again but there's a good chance it's going to be a lakland 55-60 or even a 95-14.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1413745830' post='2581518'] That's right - a messy application can leave glue under the bridge or even on the neck. [/quote] my 2010 Stingray5 has a 'Pearl finish'

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1413736443' post='2581369'] Very good point. Different pricing based on different quality components is one thing, but different build quality is ludicrous really. Imagine buying a car and being told by the dealership that you could have one built properly for one price or built a bit shoddily for a bit less. Quite an odd marketing model when you think about it. [/quote] Exactly that has gone on for years, the trick is keeping the markets separate, SEAT were once cheaply made Fiats, look how that turned out! You can still buy a Hillman Hunter in Iran called a Paykan, it has just replaced the version based on the the Morris Oxford JUST! In this internet age with worldwide shipping it just wouldn't work to sell cheap ones to poorer countries and keep the USA models as a top of the range. When I bought my first Musicman part of the appeal was the lack of budget versions, you knew that your bass could have been next to one Flea was thrashing on the production line, then came OLP, then SUB, then SBMM and now SUB by Sterling, its a total mess heading the same way as Fender. I am genuinely looking to buy a Jazz V fairly soon, I've just been looking on guitar guitar's site and Thomann, I have no idea what I'm looking at regarding where they are built and what to expect?

I was going to say teal green ftw!

And I bet some unprofessional 14 year old lad was still such an idiot to not take a spare wall of sound too, I'd not even lend him a plectrum just to teach him a lesson!

As others have said though that isnt the only criticism is it? Some dont like the middy sound others feel that the build quality of the cabs isnt great, some just dont like the look of the cabs. Anyone who points this out is just a troll trying to ruin a small company and anyone that glosses over them is a fan boi, rinse and repeat.

My nearest gig/town from home other than the village pub is 7 miles away up a winding hilly lane, so as Duncan would say "amm ooot"

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1413722499' post='2581190'] You still have to be careful Cmajor is not Aminor. There are very subtle differences. [/quote] Well I will end up a lot closer playing C major over an A minor piece than I will playing A major over it, major minor clang

I already made a suggestion that Genz-Benz could make an Shuttlemax 18.2, a hybrid of the 12.2 that use two 600watt classD amps but with the 900 watt power modules from the Shuttle/max 9.2, with all the features of the Shuttlemax 9.2 yet you could run 4 8ohm 4x10 cabs or a pair of big 4 ohm 2x12s etc, 1800 watts into 16 10" drivers with a clean and dirty channel what is not to like?! Lets get Jeff Genzler out and back into production again

Ta

John is the man, I have put one in my ClassicRay5 as the stock one wasn't right imo

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1413619482' post='2580134'] I took out a couple of antagonistic posts here. Just be warned, keep it civil. [/quote] I just checked in to see if there are anymore facts come to light as I saw it was up to 4 pages, alas there is not but that doesn't stop people defending her or others defending the immigration officers does it, As we know nothing more it remains 50/50 either a shame for her or a job well done by the authorities.

My own ability never got past about my 3rd bass owned, after that it has been "wants rather than needs"

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1413673424' post='2580883'] 1st - Is the only difference in the instrument exactly the same except for the body wood? Or, are there other differences in the design/implementation? 2nd - It's quite easy for 'everyone' to think something, and for it be wrong. Look at the history of science, it is full of examples. [/quote] 1-Afaik they are no different to a 3 eq ray with a RW board but with a mahogany body instead of ash. 2- that is true but they made 783 of them and the punchy comments have come from lovers and haters of the brand rather than fan bois only. They are however strung through which is a whole fresh debate!

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1413669441' post='2580846'] My body wood made a baby. [/quote] BigRedX has already suggested that the way the glue is spread could be a factor!

The one fly in the ointment is the mahogany Stingray 30th anniversary model, everyone has agreed that it sounds different to every other Stingray made of the more usual,ash,alder or poplar. More punchy comes up everytime?

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1413669493' post='2580847'] Excellent! ;-) [/quote] it's all in the name of science, I've no idea what the others are made of actually or from how many pieces of wood, the Classic is a single slab of ash.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1413665248' post='2580800'] You say 'tomato' and I say 'solanum lycopersicum'. [/quote] You need some cream for that then, couples of weeks and it will be fine I dont think there is much a good 5 string Jazz with active/passive options can't do?

I've got three stingray 5s, one is ash and a trans finish the other two are solid, I'll just grab a chisel and report back..........

The ASAT looks ace and B strings rule

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1413662540' post='2580757'] If the wood species of the top alone could change the sound, then you'd expect the wood species of a solid one piece body to make an even bigger difference. Hence, that would seem to be the logical experiment to try first. BTW: I'm not saying that you think that the wood species of the top will make a difference, I'm just talking about what the most logical experiment to perform first would be. [/quote] Even then what are we going to measure, no one here can agree exactly what, darker, clanky, growly, thin, boomy, brittle, etc is can they?

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1413661627' post='2580744'] I acquired an SB2 recently... It's exceptional. But now I've got GAS for an M2000. [/quote] Why no tribute Asat and why no asat five strings?

Not many basses are made from solid fancy wood though are they, also these claims are often made when its only a top added that has supposedly altered the tone, "spalted woodius wormus top adds amazing top end zing compared to my book matched rotten knotted hazelnut one" etc

I really like them blue, cool