stingrayPete1977

We'll go easy on you

As I found out there isn't really anywhere to just have a dabble, even now as a novice I'd feel awkward in a shop full of expensive ones so I think a meet like this would be great for you to have a nose around, jazzers,blues,orchestral and slappers all in one place!

Refin and a new neck plate and they will be as good as new.

I've got the bow but I lack the skills with it!

Yes it would be, I'm surprised you've never heard of Paramore Hazbeen they've done some good songs with great basslines, she can belt a tune out too. I've never seen them live but the clips I've seen look good.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1470575243' post='3106805'] No, i think what you struggle with is reading and understanding what people have written. My original point on this had nothing to do with Jaco. Coilte said that there is a difference between technical music and music that speaks to people. I said that sometimes technical music speaks to some people. I also said that most of it doesn't connect with me. We both agreed on that. I then said in general i think if people don't like technical music just because it's technical i find that ignorant. Not you, or people that do listen. But people who automatically dismiss music that is technical and state only 3 chord songs are real and connect with people. I think i've said it enough times now! [/quote] Maybe you should have that debate in a separate thread if it's nothing to do with this thread then. It still sucks

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1470570517' post='3106764'] I'm suprised he didn't sound dreadful without a Flea bass in hand ;-) [/quote] He was going to use his but the control plate fell off back stage, I suppose that's to be expected on a budget one thousand pound bass?! Ha.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1470569905' post='3106753'] Where did i say [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]"if you dont like Jaco you are probably crap at playing and only like rock music in straight 8ths" [/font][/color] , [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]What i said is that it is ignorant just to not like something just because it is technical or musical, just on that basis. I was refering to music in general. If you don't like any music that is technical and you don't like it for that reason, that it is technical, then i think without listening to or understanding it within it's context then you are being ignorant. [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I also said in my most that i don't like most technical music, usually when it's for the sake of it![/font][/color] [/quote] Has anyone said they didn't like it without listening to it though? That's what I struggle with when the monthly Jaco thread comes up, lol I listened to it and (for me) it sucks

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1470531648' post='3106590'] That's not what i was saying [/quote] Well I'm not sure I like this idea that it's "ignorant", we've been here many times before, surely to be ignorant requires me to ignor his music and them claim to dislike like without hearing it? I have tried but I still do not connect with it.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1470510205' post='3106509'] It's a fair point and most people don't like technical playing. I don't a lot of the time. But i also feel it's ignorant to not like something just because its's technical or musical. It always depends on the requirements of the music. Even The Stranglers have shredding on No more heroes for example. I also dislike the idea stuff has to be simple to be real and worthwhile, the Indie/punk mentality. I really like Indie/punk. I like most forms of music, even bloody Country now which i used to hate. [/quote] This always gets thrown back worded in a similar way (normally by blue ),the old "if you dont like Jaco you are probably crap at playing and only like rock music in straight 8ths" kind of response, for me it's not that I don't like technical playing, I don't like Jaco's technical playing!!

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1470524438' post='3106574'] I don't want to force an opinion. But to listen to this bass from Jaco Pastorius and not get something from it is just alien to me. Each to there own of course. [/quote] Im sure there are many basslines you like that I don't and basslines I like that you don't, I wouldn't find it alien for you not to like everything I do. Just tastes aren't they?

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1470500372' post='3106435'] I wonder if it would suck if the bass line was soloed. ? [/quote] For me, I think so still.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1470500242' post='3106432'] The rule of thumb used to be 2W to each person in the audience. Rule of thumbs are interesting things. As mentioned above it's SPL but most modern speakers are fairly efficient now and pretty much of a muchness. The problem with owning your own PA is you need to get a good all rounder for different situations and you need somewhere to store it all. The problem with hiring is arranging to borrow each time, collecting and dropping off. It's a trade off. [/quote] I agree with all of this, our guitarist wasted money on PAs for small events etc, the money he spent on a HK audio sub and satellite speaker thing would have bought us a pair of DB Opera 12s instead of 10s. Digital desk and powered speakers makes a very small dent in the storage area compared to an old fashioned setup and any money spent on a small old fashioned one could go towards a proper PA, If you bought a pair of Opera 12s now as FOH they would do most of the gigs in the poll right away within budget, add a pair of RCF 745s at a grand each in future and you have a great PA with nice powered monitors!

Our RCF stuff is so portable yet powerful that it can be used for a duo jam session in the pub up to small wedding and function band gigs. A pair of RCF 735As for FOH (these act as subs also if you are not familiar with them) A pair of DB Opera 10s as monitors A single DB opera 12 as a drum monitor (being added soon) The DB 10s would do a jam night or a gig with backline on there own so that gives a very compact option, the 735s added does anything I would do before getting someone in to provide a PA.

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1470479225' post='3106264'] yep they do. I love it. But it was more about the bass playing around the music. I guess that point was lost.. [/quote] As I said I appreciate the skill required but it makes no difference how good the bassline is if the overall content sucks, for me it sucks, sucks is thankfully subjective and has nothing to do with "being there" it would still have sucked for me in 1985

[quote name='thebassist' timestamp='1470474053' post='3106217'] You write that like its a bad thing!!! [/quote] lol

He is a great player that we do not hear much about on this site? I wonder if the complications of the band with him coming and going (I did not realise he had left again until just now) has held him back as a known player in some ways? I nice example of his work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Rdc7T98xM He can rock and slap and do gospel stuff, pop and funky, versatile player.

Does nothing for me, sounds like a cheap game show theme tune from the same year I appreciate the skill but I wouldn't want to listen to any more of it.

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1470343515' post='3105416'] Surely, anyone who gets a 500 quid bass as a present and then sells it because they don't "want" it, is just an ungrateful bastard [/quote] Me and ebs_freak collected my USA strat from a kid in Surrey, his uncle bought it for him in 1997 over ten years before I purchased it from him, we worked it out the kid must have been 6 or 7 years old at most and couldn't play a note! It was dusty with a few scuffs but the frets and pickups were as new, never been played.

You forgot 9/11 and the moon landings!

You can try my Gedo out in silence while I check out the preamps and wireless system

I think this is the problem with talking online, it's easy to get the wrong end of the stick, you should come along too the bash and eat sandwiches, drink coffee and look at bass stuff

I've no idea how we got here, shame.

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1470403648' post='3105784'] And frankly why not, I'd be happy anyone else to do the same? Also, I've three DBs and a very interesting EUB, plus about 15 pre-amps I could have brought for others to try, adding to the whole thing. I don't see why my reasons for attending are somehow flawed because they're not yours? [/quote] I'm not saying you need to chat for hours in minute detail, but I think at least an exchange of friendliness would be polite before grabbing an expensive bass before playing it. I find this whole situation strange right from your first arsey post I've quoted and quoted from already,why do you feel so special that you needed to be privately consulted about this bash? It's been in the db section for ages as an open discussion regarding plans different to last time before dates were confirmed. Telling us what you would of brought with you is frankly, childish.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1470393907' post='3105681'] And I've lost my key ... [/quote] At least you were given one!