stingrayPete1977

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1486641789' post='3233444'] IMO and IME isolation bases like gramma pads and the likes don't do much effect. They can reduce floor coupling but don't avoid having your cab sitting low, close to the floor and pumping sound to your legs. Wou won't hear the highs and mids clearly, only the lows. My rather inexpensive solution to this is to use a amp stand. This is the one i'm using: It's a amp stand from Warwick, Rockstand RS 23010, was something like 30€ from Thomman. It's adjustable in height and i can use it with with a boom bigger then the other to use the combo slanted if i want. I've been using it to raise my 2x12" for the past 3 years with great results. A chair, beer crate, drummers case, empty hardcase, etc. all work fine aswell as long as they can raise your cab(s) enough to have the driver (and tweeter) pointing directly at your ears. Setting up the gear away from corners everytime possible is also great to avoid a boomy stage due to wall reinforcement and result in a clear tone with note-to-note definition. Another thing, as sujested, is to pay attention to the sub-low region of your EQ. If you're going through the PA then you can HPF on the 70-80Hz and that will clean up your lows surprisingly well. If providing bass for the room from your gig you'll need more lows but keep in mind that that comes at the cost of a muddy stage sound. Another thing to pay attention is to not get an excessive scooped sound, that may sound great in the bedroom or when you're soundcheking alone but add a band to the mix and the bass will get lost and your band mates won't be able to hear you well. Just by doing all this things i can get my stage sound cristal clear whith more than enough low end to be felt and everybody can hear me. This also allows me to play at a lower volume and be able to hear the rest of the band while saving my ears from premature deafness. I have constant compliments to my sound from the band and the audience. When we (the band members) go out for a drink or listen to some live music my guitar player is allways telling me how much he prefers my sound to what we're listening so i must be doing something right, i think [/quote] How would you reach the knobs on an ampeg head on top of an ampeg 8x10 all the way up there?

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1486596447' post='3233220'] Entirely disagree, but thats what opinions are for! The Fender just sounds like a weak stingray or a weak modulus, literally cannot hear anything better about it. He very rarely uses effects, by the way. Occasional clean boost, very occasional filter and very very occasional overdrive/fuzz. [/quote] No I agree, he'd sound better live with an off the hook Stingray.

The Jazz basses he used didn't work live at all imo, the Fenderay does do what he needs it too, I've seen him live with various basses other than a pukka Ray and I'm not really a fan of his live sound whatever he uses but I find that with most bass sounds that use FX tbh.

Pop one of those £30 stinger preamps in and you've got a great bass for less than £200, nice work!

[quote name='Wayne Firefly' timestamp='1486553315' post='3232653'] According to The Fender Book (updated edition) by Tony Bacon and Paul Day, on page 80, I copied this, as it is. Technically speaking, Fender's Mexican plant doesn't manufacture guitars. It assembles guitars. Mike Lewis, vice president of marketing for electric guitars at Fender, explains that the bodies and necks for the company's Made In Mexico guitars are produced at the US factory in Corona and then sent down to the Mexican plant. ''There they sand them, paint them and buff them, and assemble them into guitars, with their own hardware. Also, they make their own pickups there, as well as all the Fender strings. So it would seem that they CNC all the wood bits in Corona. I hear USA bodies are 3 piece blanks, Mex are 5 piece. I can understand why they wouldnt have two sets of the same CNC machines. One set in Corona and another 180 miles south in Ensenada. [/quote] My U.S. has a two piece body, my Musician a solid slab.

[quote name='Number6' timestamp='1486156880' post='3229782'] My Mex Precision was better than quite a few US of A Fenders i tried. Infact some of those good ole mercan instruments were utter sh*te imho. [/quote] But as ever I've played some awful Mex basses (never a bad Mex guitar tbf) and never found a Mex as good as my U.S. Jazz.

Regardless of the ins and outs they need to sort it out, if they can't play the recent stuff live and they certainly can't play the new album tracks live but want to be a band that performs live they need to kick the bass player out before looking for another or possibly lose one guitarist live.

I think people confuse boosting signal with boosting eq?

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1485974736' post='3228203'] I prefer Californication [/quote] And the new one is alright too, typical of most good albums you need to give them time.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1485951823' post='3227927'] So he didn't get [i]everything[/i] right first time! [/quote] Nah, he peaked in the mid 70's

Leo thought that double bass players would play it with the thumb apparently.

[quote name='Tripehound' timestamp='1485629786' post='3225485'] Has anyone tried using the built-in amp emulator in the RCF M18 mixer? Might make me feel a bit naked with only an iPad between me and the audience rather than a nice reassuring big amp and cab.... [/quote] Most of the time I'm clean di into the xair, bit of shaping but no fx added. I might actually try it now you mention it, what an amazing piece of kit they are!

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1485872625' post='3227369'] I accept the risk of being dreadfully wrong and making myself look like an arse, but I believe the EQ sections on the Ashdown CTM series (and the Little Bastard) are old-fashioned "FMV" tone stacks - those are passive EQ, aren't they? [/quote] I'm not familiar with them but it's very possible, now how many people are using one without a pedal or sansamp etc?

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1485861522' post='3227212'] Arent we talking passive basses.Not passive amps.It's a given that the amp has an EQ and an active circuit. But the bass itself is still passive. Good point though. [/quote] The final result is what the speaker does, passive bass and active EQ amp, active bass and passive EQ amp is the same but you have to walk further to adjust it mid song. As blue would say "I'm calling shenanigans" on the purity of a passive bass when it goes right into a modern amp with the EQ boosted.

Passive amp as in a passive EQ section.

Maybe he has a friend of regal persuasion in Nigeria and this was going to be his birthday present?

[quote name='prowla' timestamp='1485798899' post='3226807'] The difference is it's not in the bass. Actually, I have a SansAmp which I use to boost passive bass to match the active. I do get the point, and indeed I have said on occasion that the instrument includes the amp and speakers too! However, looking at the component parts, an active bass is one which has onboard active electronics and a passive is one which doesn't. [/quote] 18v active basses are just as quiet as pre CBS Fenders without an amp and speaker (s)

You could argue that if you used a passive bass, passive amp and a passive pa mixer ALL of the sound has been produced by the instrument as only some of what the pickup 'collected' is being amplified (same but louder), once you introduce an active eq in the bass, amp or PA mixer that can create something that didn't happen the final amplified sound is not what went in at the bass pickup and is essentially synthetic. It's not an active bass but it's no less synthetic once it goes through an active EQ. How many amps are purely passive these days and who has a passive EQ PA system?

[quote name='martthebass' timestamp='1485792349' post='3226711'] Even R*********R have more colours. [/quote] If only they could just keep them from bleeding into the white binding

[quote name='Cathode_Follower' timestamp='1485730022' post='3226284'] Cheers Pete (can I call you Pete? It's so many years since I last frequented message boards..). Yes indeed, hills galore..! I also struggled with the wrist position when I played electric (though not down to injury). My eventual solution was to move the strap pins so the bass hung almost vertically in a more or less upright-bass position. Funny how things go full circle! [/quote] Yes no problem, I've been called much worse! I have friends in Clutton but they have lived all over Bristol so I know it quite well, had some great times there.

Hey in nothing to do with it, I'm just pointing out that it's not a non starter as it already exists right now in a shop near you.

[quote name='prowla' timestamp='1485777197' post='3226530'] Adding an effect or amp after the output of the guitar does not make the guitar active. By that token, all amplified live music is active and all recorded music is active, since it is processed via a mixer, and reproduced via a replay system with an amplifier. Clearly the term "active" (bass or guitar) refers to the instrument itself and not post-processing. [/quote] No it's not, thus proving my point.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1485734189' post='3226332'] Is wireless actually fast enough for audio rather than just as a control source? Certainly Bluetooth has too much latency to be viable. [/quote] The Alto bluetooth range is already out there.

Welcome and well done! I only started on upright after breaking my wrist as I couldn't twist my wrist around to play electric bass. Bristol and hills go hand in hand don't they? Lol

[quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1485699226' post='3225875'] So an active bass with an uncoloured in bass pre-amp set flat is a passive bass? I see your point but the passive signal is boosted massively both in any pre-amp and amp itself and 'colour' is very often added. I sometimes think that passive bass devotees fail to take this onboard, pun intended. It's a signal and it's heavily processed to make it of any use, whether it be onboard, in numerous pedals and effects or in a whole variety of amplifiers with valves, filters and tone controls. There are some that see a clear, black and white distinction between the tone of an active and passive bass as in passive good, active bad. With experience and for the reasons given above I'd argue that it just isn't that simple. Like many things in life really [/quote] No an active bass is active no matter what really but a passive bass into a modern amp with an active eq section that most people have is no different to an active bass other than the distance from the knobs in relation to the person playing it.