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[quote name='rslaing' post='526317' date='Jun 27 2009, 10:00 PM']Well ignore that bit, and just learn from him what you can If we branded or pigeonholed people because of a comment or two, we would be guilty of the same offence that you are criticising him for . I'm sure one or two of his outspoken comments won't prevent you from advancement in your playing skills and absorbing some of his excellent advice on playing bass? And FWIW, it's just as easy to learn standard notation as it is tab, and there is a lot more of it about [/quote] To be fair we're not talking about off the cuff 'comments' here, his views on tabs, metronomes, chops e.t.c are things that he talks about a lot and teaches against in his clinics and schools. In all honesty I don't find any of his views that I've read so far useful. It seems that everything i've done so far with my bass playing is wrong to him. Hell, I don't even know my instrument according to him. I'm doing just fine

By his own admission he 'speaks his mind' and is 'very opinionated' and is generally quite forthright in his views. Reading interviews with him, I don't think it's hard to see why people think he's arrogant. Personally I don't like being branded a 'chimp' becuase I use tablature.

[quote name='rslaing' post='526281' date='Jun 27 2009, 09:24 PM']I am Jaco's number 1 fan...........but I also think that Berlin is a fine musician, possibly better technically, and doesn't deserve all the sh*t he gets in here. Just because of his sweaters mainly [/quote] A good reply, fair enough! It's his air of arrogance, perceived or otherwise that makes people dislike him I think. This has already been covered though

Right then.... I just don't understand why what's been said causes you to post big rants about Jaco Pastorius, rubbishing him as a player and a human being, whilst comparing him to Jeff 'Heart Of Gold' Berlin? I just seems really uncalled for to me. The thread isn't called 'Who's Better? Jeff or Jaco?'

[quote name='rslaing' post='526271' date='Jun 27 2009, 09:02 PM']Really? That might be because Jaco was influenced heavily by bebop, which is what Berlin is playing here. It's got f*** all to do with Teen Town or any other Jaco tune. Jaco ripped most of his riffs from the jazz players of the 50's. If you don't believe me, listen to Charlie Parker. The thing Jaco did was to transfer lead instrument solos to the bass, which no one else had done previously. Maybe some extensive music study (history) would help.?[/quote] He can't help it if something 'reminds' him of something else can he? What he said also didn't warrant a tirade about Jaco, nor did what I say previously warrant you telling me Jeff Berlin's online version of 'This Is Your Life'

[quote name='rslaing' post='526262' date='Jun 27 2009, 08:52 PM']And WTF has his dress sense got to do with his musicianship? Maybe it makes you feel superior to him in that area? [/quote] It was a joke, referring to something that people often bring up. Chill out.

[quote]Jaco never had these sort of chops, whether you like this clip or not:[/quote] That's the sort of widdly playing that I really can't stand. Each to their own though. Good to see that he isn't a slave to fashon too though

[quote name='Spartacus' post='526066' date='Jun 27 2009, 04:41 PM']When you stop using a plectrum.[/quote] I'm suprised that this one managed to slip through the net

[quote name='RhysP' post='526242' date='Jun 27 2009, 08:22 PM']He was including himself in that category and he made these comments at a clinic he did in the Bass Centre in LA, which was featured in the April 1992 issue of Bass Player magazine. (Personally I think it's one of the most level headed & sensible articles about bass playing I've ever read). [b]It was exactly his point.[/b][/quote] That's good then, would sound rather hypocritical otherwise

[quote name='rslaing' post='526237' date='Jun 27 2009, 08:18 PM']He might do now. But during the 70's and 80's he had (possibly) equal status with Jaco as a pioneer of his instrument, and was very much an integral member of a number of bands that contained equally superb musicians. Then his son had a serious illness and he took a back seat, spending all of his time on a much more important thing - helping his son and looking after his family. Fortunately his son recovered from ( I think) leukaemia. That needs verifying. Now he spends all of his time educating people about bass playing and music. He is still a great player, whether in a multi instrument environment or as a soloist. A great man with superior skills and believe it or not, a heart of gold whose life experience has changed his total outlook on the music "industry". He really should be respected instead of all the sh*t thrown at him in here by a few people who really don't know what they are talking about.[/quote] That's nice. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

[quote name='Rich' post='526046' date='Jun 27 2009, 04:21 PM']Yes, I've heard him come up with that before. He seems to be arguing that there's no point in learning something unless you're going to get paid for it. Now call me a radical, but what's so wrong with playing or learning stuff for the [i]enjoyment[/i] of it? If getting paid was the be all and end all, I'd never get to play a note.[/quote] Doesn't Jeff Berlin himself fall into the catagory of 'great' player who's only listened to by other bassists anyway? Or was that his point?

[quote name='rslaing' post='525436' date='Jun 26 2009, 10:26 PM']I have tried to find it in the repairs forum, but to no avail. What is the problem? Please be accurate.[/quote] Uh oh....brace yourself JPAC.

[quote name='Jobiebass' post='525331' date='Jun 26 2009, 09:12 PM']ts the same EQ as the Bongo. takes a while to get used to it but after you do... [b]the tone options are unlimited.[/b][/quote] Not a good thing for me, when I have that many options i'm forever twiddling and can never settle on a sound

That is one of the worst basses I've ever seen. What's the deal with that Sterling series too? Just a slightly cheaper alternative?

[quote name='flip' post='524829' date='Jun 26 2009, 01:42 PM']I love that green jazz, Andriano is one of my favourite players too. He only seems to play precisions now though![/quote] Adriano was one of my favourite players, shame he got fat and let his form slip. Not sure how precise his play is these days though.