Quatschmacher Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 10 hours ago, tauzero said: When you say the original maker, do you mean of the Mu-Tron III that Lovetone based the Meatball on? No, in this instance I meant Dan Coggins of Lovetone. If your question is meant to imply that Lovetone ripped off the Mu-Tron I’II, I’d add that the Meatball was far from a straight-up copy as it added lots of extra functionality not present on the Mu-Tron III. (I have also supported Mike Beigel by buying his own later incarnations (QTron, Micro-tron III and IV, and I’ll probably get the latest Mu-Tron III when funds allow).) Edited 25 minutes ago by Quatschmacher Quote
tauzero Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, ped said: In a sense, every env filter is based on the Mutron. But the Meatball is a different circuit altogether. It’s not a ‘copy’ like the Behringer. Same goes for the 3leaf Chromatron. It takes inspiration from the Meatball but it’s a different design. Aionfx's description of the PCB says "Unlike Lovetone’s later offerings, the Meatball was not a fully original circuit, but rather a heavily tweaked version of the very first commercial envelope filter pedal, the Mu-tron III. While the core circuit is the very similar, the Meatball adds several new features including a clean blend, attack/decay controls, two extra range modes in between Hi and Lo, two expression controls, and an effects loop." Quote
LukeFRC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, tauzero said: Aionfx's description of the PCB says "Unlike Lovetone’s later offerings, the Meatball was not a fully original circuit, but rather a heavily tweaked version of the very first commercial envelope filter pedal, the Mu-tron III. While the core circuit is the very similar, the Meatball adds several new features including a clean blend, attack/decay controls, two extra range modes in between Hi and Lo, two expression controls, and an effects loop." Given there’s not much new in analogue electronics, and given we are in a topic about behringer …. I think that counts for lovetone as an original adaptation of an existing topology! Something like the 3leaf Photon is similarly a refined version to the point it becomes its own thing Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I'm guessing Behringer aren't going to do the Lovetone flanger with the question mark on, that thing was nuts, a lot of fun. Quote
LukeFRC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said: I'm guessing Behringer aren't going to do the Lovetone flanger with the question mark on, that thing was nuts, a lot of fun. Irony being if Lovetone bring it back they will probably be buying the bbd chips from … behringer! Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted 38 minutes ago Posted 38 minutes ago 49 minutes ago, LukeFRC said: Irony being if Lovetone bring it back they will probably be buying the bbd chips from … behringer! Indeed, probably the case with anything that uses vactrols too these days. Quote
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