XR18 to IPad to Cubasis help needed

[mikegatward]

Apologies if this is the wrong forum for the topic but here goes.

 

I’m tasked with recording band gigs after our guitarist left the band. He was successful in recording from the XR18 to his laptop so I know the routing is all set up on the XR18

 

i’ll be using an iPad Pro and I downloaded Cubasis 3 and attempted to set everything up but I can’t get Cubasis to see the XR18. I suspect it’s the cabling and I’ve used an adapter I picked up on eBay. Maybe I need something else.

 

is there someone out there who can help me ? - someone that has the same set up

 

Thanks in advance

[JapanAxe]

Apple stuff is pretty good at seeing audio sources but if you’re not using an (overpriced) Apple cable then there’s a good chance it just won’t play.

[Steve Browning]

Is there a separate driver you need to download from Behringer? I seem to recall a specific driver is required. 

[JapanAxe]

11 minutes ago, Steve Browning said:

Is there a separate driver you need to download from Behringer? I seem to recall a specific driver is required. 

I assumed an iPad would have Core Audio already and wouldn’t need a specific driver.

[Steve Browning]

You could be right. There's only Windows drivers on the website. 

[Woodinblack]

You shouldn't need a driver, you just have to connect to the iPad by USB and then core audio should see it. I don't know about cubasis but I assume it should see it if it is available. What sort of interface are you using?

[mikegatward]

2 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

You shouldn't need a driver, you just have to connect to the iPad by USB and then core audio should see it. I don't know about cubasis but I assume it should see it if it is available. What sort of interface are you using?

USB to usb c, into the dodgy eBay adapter, into a lightning to usb c adapter then a lightning to usb c adapter

 

if I then power the dodgy eBay adapter with a lightning charger, the iPad seems to recognise it but it’s doesn’t charge it.

 

i suspect the cable set up is wrong so a link to what I need to buy would be massively appreciated 😊

[Hellzero]

I had the same issue with my Studiologic SL88 GT MK2 MIDI controller keyboard connected to an iPad, it only worked with the official Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter...

 

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/mw5m3zm/a/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter

 

There is the same adapter for Lightning should you need this version.

 

Edited October 30 by Hellzero
Missing words...

[mikegatward]

1 hour ago, Hellzero said:

I had the same issue with my Studiologic SL88 GT MK2 MIDI controller keyboard connected to an iPad, it only worked with the official Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter...

 

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/mw5m3zm/a/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter

 

There is the same adapter for Lightning should you need this version.

 

Thanks for this - I can see they also sell on eBay for £20 to £25

[Hellzero]

9 hours ago, mikegatward said:

Thanks for this - I can see they also sell on eBay for £20 to £25

If it's a real Apple product, go on, otherwise buy the real deal or you'll lose your money. 😉

[dave_bass5]

ive recorded a few of our gigs from our XR18 to Cubasis on my iPad Pro. In theory it should work well, no drivers needed and iPad picked up the XR18 instantly

In practice Cubasis turned out to be a real POS and I won't touch it again.

 

Before the first gig I had created a channel with the correct wiring etc. I duplicated this to end up with 14 channels, and yet only the first would accept the XR18 input. I had changed and double checked the others were set to receive input on different inputs. i had it all set up correctly, and yet I only got a recording from the iPads mic. Cubasis was showing all 14 channels were getting inputs from the mixer. 

 

Second time it did work, but it was touch and go. Third time I reused the previous project and got no input from the XR18 at all. I deleted all the channels and recreated them, and then it worked. 

 

These days I use Logic. I pay for it as and when I need it (it's on a per month subscription). Its got its issues as well, but its a lot more stable.

[Owen]

The Apple/non Apple hardware thing is real. They release updates which whack new knock of adapters out of the running. That is probably where the issue is. I have no Cubasis experience, but if I were to multitrack on an iPad I would be looking at Garage Band. 

[dave_bass5]

Depending on the iPad, you might not need to use the adapter. I don’t bother with mine, and can get a 2/12 hour gig recorded without turning the iPad off after soundcheck with well over 40% at the end of the night still left. With a 4 hour rehearsal doing the same thing I get about 60% remaining battery. It might be worth trying a USB-C to USB-B cable to see if that works before getting another adapter. As far as I know Apple dont do a cheap one for USB-C. 

Other than that, use a small powered hub.

[mikegatward]

Thanks all. I’ve made some progress.

 

Getting the proper Apple cable was the key. I was then able to add the relevantly USB mapped channels from the XR18

 

i connected my iPhone to 2 channels and managed to record an iTunes track after a few false starts and help from a YouTube video

 

so good progress especially for an old geezer like me