Danny Sapko discovers… (now including follow up vid that is worse!)

[fretmeister]

2 minutes ago, kwmlondon said:

Yeah but I saw him with a full band. They were really good … the drummer did a helkuva solo. They were not miming. 

Maybe some of them were?

[kwmlondon]

6 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Maybe some of them were?

Maybe. Maybe, but honestly can’t believe that any of them were. I think that in a live context but playing a very heavily rehearsed set they were a tight, and very competent band. I was more focused on tue bass player but he was outstanding as was the drummer. I was there with a friend who has been a session guitarist and works professionally as a gigging musician and neither of us thought anyone was miming. AND I had my glasses on!

 

I really think that miming to that standard in front of a live audience would be harder than playing it live! 

Edited 4 hours ago by kwmlondon

[Hellzero]

6 minutes ago, kwmlondon said:

 

I really think that miming to that standard in front of a live audience would be harder than playing it live! 

Not sure. Ask Madonna, the queen of miming.

[Hellzero]

Or Taylor Swift.

[kwmlondon]

Look. Maybe he was miming but I just don’t think it’s likely. Nobody has ever called him out as a fake for his work with his band and he’s been touring for years but…. I would love to hear his isolated playing from the desk. That would be fascinating. I think it’s more likely that he’s put a live set together of pieces that look flashy and sound impressive but are not that challenging and have runs and riffs that don’t show up flawed playing. That would be was easier than running the whole gig to a click and miming playing guitar. But I could be wrong. I often am. 

[BabyBlueSound]

I am not on Insta, but I don't suppose Mr Tuah apologised yet there, where his main "audience" resides? 😁 

[Beedster]

You get good at doing what you do a lot of, you mime a lot you get bloody good at it 😕

[Hellzero]

54 minutes ago, kwmlondon said:

Look. Maybe he was miming but I just don’t think it’s likely. Nobody has ever called him out as a fake for his work with his band and he’s been touring for years but…. I would love to hear his isolated playing from the desk. That would be fascinating. I think it’s more likely that he’s put a live set together of pieces that look flashy and sound impressive but are not that challenging and have runs and riffs that don’t show up flawed playing. That would be was easier than running the whole gig to a click and miming playing guitar. But I could be wrong. I often am. 

Listen to or watch Rick Beato's answer, you'll find the answer you're looking for.

[kwmlondon]

49 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

Listen to or watch Rick Beato's answer, you'll find the answer you're looking for.

You’re must be right. I probably can’t tell a live musician from someone faking it when I’m standing in front of them. Nobody could. 

Edited 2 hours ago by kwmlondon

[Hellzero]

I've met people, called fans, going to a Rolling Stone concert and never noticing that Mick Jagger is singing out of tune, or that Keith Richards is playing something but not what was supposed to be there...

 

I know some other people having seen Madonna or Taylor Swift live and swearing that the band was terrific, when everybody is miming.

 

I've met people telling that Céline Dion saved the slaughter that were the Olympics thanks to her magnificent vocal technique, when it was a wonderful playback.

 

So, being a fan is being biased, don't you think...

[Beedster]

6 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

I've met people, called fans, going to a Rolling Stone concert and never noticing that Mick Jagger is singing out of tune, or that Keith Richards is playing something but not what was supposed to be there...

 

I know some other people having seen Madonna or Taylor Swift live and swearing that the band was terrific, when everybody is miming.

 

I've met people telling that Céline Dion saved the slaughter that were the Olympics thanks to her magnificent vocal technique, when it was a wonderful playback.

 

So, being a fan is being biased, don't you think...

 

Yep, we tend to see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear

[kwmlondon]

14 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

I've met people, called fans, going to a Rolling Stone concert and never noticing that Mick Jagger is singing out of tune, or that Keith Richards is playing something but not what was supposed to be there...

 

I know some other people having seen Madonna or Taylor Swift live and swearing that the band was terrific, when everybody is miming.

 

I've met people telling that Céline Dion saved the slaughter that were the Olympics thanks to her magnificent vocal technique, when it was a wonderful playback.

 

So, being a fan is being biased, don't you think...

I’m not a fan though. I didn’t like his music that much I just believe that in a venue where I’m close to the stage I would spot someone miming guitar where you can see so clearly what their hands are doing. I guess I think because in the past I’ve been able to spot a mined performance I’d have picked it up.. but I can’t be sure.

 
It does bug me now though and I really want to know for sure! 
 

I don’t mind a mess up though, that’s half the fun of seeing a live show is when a good musician pulls a mistake into a save!

Edited 1 hour ago by kwmlondon

[BassTractor]

14 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

So, being a fan is being biased, don't you think...

Of course, but you weren't there, and you probably also do not know @kwmlondon.
There are probably several possible explanations, of which playback is only one; another one is the one kwmlondon offered: that the player in question had chosen the material with care.

BTW, I'm an unfan, and I'm much biased too.
I like to believe this rat is also committing many other acts of low quality.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by BassTractor

[kwmlondon]

2 minutes ago, BassTractor said:

Of course, but you weren't there, and you probably also do not know @kwmlondon.
There are probably several possible explanations, of which playback is only one; another one is the one kwmlondon offered: that the player in question had chosen the material with care.

BTW, I'm an unfan, and I'm much biased too.
I like to believe this rat is also committing many other acts of low quality.

 

 

Yeah this x100. Ripping off other people’s work and monetising it is what he’s been caught out for. If being a crap guitarist was a crime I’d be in prison with a double-sided criminal record.