spyder Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago I play mostly in pubs / clubs / wedding venues with a very basic Presonus PA and it was noticeable compared to the direct to mixer via a high quality active DI sound. The sound tightened up and I could here myself better because it pushes the sound forward. Using quality iem / studio headphones / high end hifi it was very noticeable. 1 1 Quote
krispn Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 hours ago, Al Krow said: All good / valid points gents! Genuine real-world question: how much of the sound and feel is going to be preserved (or lost!) depending on the amp & cab or FoH set-up that you are going through when playing live with a band? What is going to be a "necessary minimum" quality set-up to hear the lush tones this is producing in a live band mix? I’d imagine it would translate quite well. I can hear a difference running just my amp versus running my pedal board into my amp. Same way my amp Di is adequate- I never use it but had to recently as my tube pre amp wasn’t giving any sound (turned out it was a simple fix but the amp DI did the job in a pinch). Did it sound ok for the gig yes but it’s wasn’t as enjoyable a sound. I could defo he’s the difference in my IEM’s This same question gets asked a lot on forums and there’s been some great demos showing how a pedal can sound like another pedal but I believe Origin are going for more of an experience in both feel and tone. It might not be important to folk for a pedal to feel like an amp if it’s nearly £500 but it’s exciting that we have a recreation of a classic amp that folks are describing as nailing the tone and feel. Does a 5k bass vintage bass sound better than a £400 bass? Does it feel better to play versus the £400 bass? Not everyone cares for these things but it’s nice when we can feel and hear a difference and that can push something form desirable to must have fall in love at the first play. If a £99 pedal can do 80% great but some players live for the last 20% because that’s where the inspiration lives. 9 Quote
Nickthebass Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) How does the BR15 compare to the SV - tonally? I know they’re modelling different amps but how does that translate into a sound (more lows, tighter lows, does one break up more easily than the other etc.) Anyone who can compare a real B15 to a real SVT+fridge feel free to chime in too! 😆 I’m mainly interested in the DI sound with the cab sim on. The SV BassRig is generally always for me but not with huge amounts of overdrive - a little bit of push or break up at most. Tonally I’m normally going for old school supportive punch and clarity. I’m not normally looking for clangy Geddy Lee overdrive. (It drives me crackers that every demo of the SV spends 93.7% of the time driving the nuts off it.) Edited 7 hours ago by Nickthebass 1 Quote
Nickthebass Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago On 20/11/2025 at 15:08, spyder said: Moving on from this morning I've used the 1/4 inch amp out straight into my Ashdown ABM / 4x10 with no EQ, valve drive or sub harmonics turned on. With the settings shown below it sounds almost the same as the Di out going into the PA. This feature is great as I can duplicate the Di sound into any back line amp. Winner winner *insert preferred roast protein* dinner. This is exactly what I’m trying to do with my SV. I’ve been fiddling with the amp out EQ via a Radial JDI and some decent cans. 1 Quote
spyder Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Nickthebass said: Winner winner *insert preferred roast protein* dinner. This is exactly what I’m trying to do with my SV. I’ve been fiddling with the amp out EQ via a Radial JDI and some decent cans. That is exactly what I did yesterday. I took the amp out from the pedal into an active DI and straight into the PA. Switching between the pedal Di out and the pedal amp out there was no difference. Quote
Al Krow Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 13 hours ago, krispn said: I’d imagine it would translate quite well. I can hear a difference running just my amp versus running my pedal board into my amp. Same way my amp Di is adequate- I never use it but had to recently as my tube pre amp wasn’t giving any sound (turned out it was a simple fix but the amp DI did the job in a pinch). Did it sound ok for the gig yes but it’s wasn’t as enjoyable a sound. I could defo he’s the difference in my IEM’s This same question gets asked a lot on forums and there’s been some great demos showing how a pedal can sound like another pedal but I believe Origin are going for more of an experience in both feel and tone. It might not be important to folk for a pedal to feel like an amp if it’s nearly £500 but it’s exciting that we have a recreation of a classic amp that folks are describing as nailing the tone and feel. Does a 5k bass vintage bass sound better than a £400 bass? Does it feel better to play versus the £400 bass? Not everyone cares for these things but it’s nice when we can feel and hear a difference and that can push something form desirable to must have fall in love at the first play. If a £99 pedal can do 80% great but some players live for the last 20% because that’s where the inspiration lives. Very nicely put Gav! Particularly like that final para, albeit the VTDI is £250 not £99, but that's splitting hairs on the philosophical point. Hope you manage to land one used in due course. Quote
Quatschmacher Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Nickthebass said: How does the BR15 compare to the SV - tonally? I know they’re modelling different amps but how does that translate into a sound (more lows, tighter lows, does one break up more easily than the other etc.) Like you, I’m mostly running these sounds clean (or with slight breakup when digging in). Yes, it is frustrating to hear most demos showing the harsher side of the SV because it’s very capable of some lovely clean tones. (I actually noticed the other day that Avishai Cohen was running his upright through an SVT-CL Heritage rig.) As mentioned above, the SV does have deeper and more prominent lows. The top end can also get much fizzier due to the high switch. And this is before using either of the cab sims. I thought getting the Fifteen would obviate my keeping the SV, but I do appreciate the extra low end heft it brings for certain sounds. 3 Quote
Nickthebass Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Quatschmacher said: Like you, I’m mostly running these sounds clean (or with slight breakup when digging in). Yes, it is frustrating to hear most demos showing the harsher side of the SV because it’s very capable of some lovely clean tones. (I actually noticed the other day that Avishai Cohen was running his upright through an SVT-CL Heritage rig.) As mentioned above, the SV does have deeper and more prominent lows. The top end can also get much fizzier due to the high switch. And this is before using either of the cab sims. I thought getting the Fifteen would obviate my keeping the SV, but I do appreciate the extra low end heft it brings for certain sounds. So if I’m understanding properly - your thoughts at the moment are that the SV has more fullness etc. in the bottom end and also more range at the top? Are you running one into t’other? Quote
Quatschmacher Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Nickthebass said: So if I’m understanding properly - your thoughts at the moment are that the SV has more fullness etc. in the bottom end and also more range at the top? Are you running one into t’other? Yes, the SV has more deep bass than the Fifteen, but that’s to be expected. The high switch on the SV allows for more clickiness of finger/pick attack of the string to come through, even with the treble knob rolled off. Obviously having the mid control on the SV gives you options that aren’t available on the Fifteen. Mine are hooked up in series but I’m not running one into the cab sim of the other, if that’s what you mean. Quote
Ian McFly Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On TalkBass, some say that the Fifteen sounds very close to the DCX. Interesting. Quote
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