leschirons Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 But all this super technology that's supposedly changed the world of bass playing still results in most people playing a J or P bass or dreaming of a 40 year old 3 ton Wal MK1. The former having been reinvented at least 50 times by Fender. Not sure that Godin, Steinberger, Parker or Line 6 have ever produced a passive guitar. Can't think of any basses with scalloped frets, B-benders or auto tuning either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 09/12/2022 at 00:54, leschirons said: But all this super technology that's supposedly changed the world of bass playing still results in most people playing a J or P bass or dreaming of a 40 year old 3 ton Wal MK1. The former having been reinvented at least 50 times by Fender. Not sure that Godin, Steinberger, Parker or Line 6 have ever produced a passive guitar. Can't think of any basses with scalloped frets, B-benders or auto tuning either. Really? The GT-PRO Steinberger guitar is passive, Godin's active guitars are the occasional ones with piezos and the specialist top-end ones, Line 6 cannot help but be active as they're modelling guitars (and basses). I think auto tuning is confined to the Gibson robot tuning system (which was a complete flop) and the Peavey AT200, which didn't retune the strings but instead applied pitch shifts to the individual strings, and lasted about a year. I'm not sure that there would be much point to a B-bender on a bass. Mark Philips has been producing scalloped fret basses for some years now, which shows the desirability of such a thing. In contrast, Warwick and Ibanez (examples off my wall) have been turning out active basses for years and are still selling established models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 What about violin/fiddle players? Bassists embraced frets in the 50s. It takes the first 5 years, after taking up the instrument, to figure out how to play a violin/fiddle in tune. If they came with frets as standard people would be knocking out symphonies in no time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, gjones said: What about violin/fiddle players?... But the violin has evolved..! Edited December 10, 2022 by Dad3353 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 hours ago, tauzero said: Really? The GT-PRO Steinberger guitar is passive, Godin's active guitars are the occasional ones with piezos and the specialist top-end ones, Line 6 cannot help but be active as they're modelling guitars (and basses). I think auto tuning is confined to the Gibson robot tuning system (which was a complete flop) and the Peavey AT200, which didn't retune the strings but instead applied pitch shifts to the individual strings, and lasted about a year. I'm not sure that there would be much point to a B-bender on a bass. Mark Philips has been producing scalloped fret basses for some years now, which shows the desirability of such a thing. In contrast, Warwick and Ibanez (examples off my wall) have been turning out active basses for years and are still selling established models. Well that's put me in my place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mep Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 What about this then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike257 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) On 10/12/2022 at 04:05, gjones said: What about violin/fiddle players? Bassists embraced frets in the 50s. It takes the first 5 years, after taking up the instrument, to figure out how to play a violin/fiddle in tune. If they came with frets as standard people would be knocking out symphonies in no time. I'm currently touring with this show. All of the string players playing custom electric instruments through guitar effects pedals. Hearing our lead violin flawlessly knock out the solos to Killing In The Name, Sweet Child Of Mine and Master Of Puppets is quite something! Edited December 11, 2022 by mike257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Is it because guitarists don't stop talking about themselves long enough to give the techs enough info to improve their gear? Is it? I'm sure it is... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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