BassAdder60 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Question .. would a BF SuperTwin blow my new Ashdown ABM 210 Pro Neo cabs x 2 away ? Just curious if the BF is a fuller deeper sounding cab that would handle a 500w or larger amp and better suited to rock ? Huge price ticket so interested to know if really that much better than say £350 each Ashdown cabs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Yes, yes it would 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Your Ashdown's are rated at 300 watts each. BF rate the Super Twin at 1200 watts, so depending on the amp you use it could certainly go louder, fuller, bassier etc. Is it "better" or worth the extra expense? Only you can decide that. I made my decision 5 years ago, BF's are my cab of choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Having had both Ashdown & Barefaced cabs I`d say that BF will more than likely go louder (make that a definite), but that that is irrespective to me given that I prefer the sound of the Ashdowns, which are plenty loud enough for my needs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 You can't always compare manufacturers' power ratings directly. Some are more generous with their figures than others. The Ashdown is a sealed cab, which is a disadvantage in the "how loud will it go" stakes but often an advantage in the "lack of boom" stakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman7755 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BassAdder27 said: Question .. would a BF SuperTwin blow my new Ashdown ABM 210 Pro Neo cabs x 2 away ? Just curious if the BF is a fuller deeper sounding cab that would handle a 500w or larger amp and better suited to rock ? Huge price ticket so interested to know if really that much better than say £350 each Ashdown cabs ? In my view if you have got 2 half decent 2x10 cabs (you've got grands worth of cabs there after all) and you cant get the volume and / or depth you want then the problem is probably not the speakers, and I say that as a BF user and fan. Edited September 28, 2021 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 minute ago, bassman7755 said: In my view if you have got 2 half decent 2x10 cabs (you've got grands worth of cabs there after all) and you cant get the volume and / or depth you want then the problem is not the speakers, and I say that as a BF user and fan. Thanks that makes sense .. the two Ashdown cabs are loud enough for what I need right now. Probably equivalent to running a 4x10 so two cabs should be ample really. I don’t need higher volume so maybe it’s not a necessity to upgrade at all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman7755 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, BassAdder27 said: Thanks that makes sense .. the two Ashdown cabs are loud enough for what I need right now. Probably equivalent to running a 4x10 so two cabs should be ample really. I don’t need higher volume so maybe it’s not a necessity to upgrade at all ! It seems I always seem to end up asking people the same question - what problem are you trying to solve ? (other than satisfying your desire to buy a shiny new toy that is). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman7755 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 BTW I assumed you already had 2 ashdown cabs. If you only have one and the choice is between another ashdown and going to BF then thats a more nuanced choice. The general rule of thumb still applies though - if you like the basic sound of the cab you already have and just want more volume then just a second one ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Yes I like the Ashdown cabs .. light and small sealed cabs Yep I have two of the new Pro Neo 210 cabs I do wonder if a larger cab with 12” drivers would have more thump and depth if that makes sense This is all for non PA support in my band playing rock medium size U.K. venues Edited September 28, 2021 by BassAdder27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman7755 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, BassAdder27 said: I do wonder if a larger cab with 12” drivers would have more thump and depth if that makes sense It might, but for any pub/club gig band situation I can imagine you are likely well inside the performance envelope of your current cabs is what I'm saying - you could almost certainly just EQ the difference so long you have ample headroom in the amp. Be interesting to know what amp you have actually. Edited September 28, 2021 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, bassman7755 said: It might, but for any pub/club gig band situation I can imagine you are likely well inside the performance envelope of your current cabs is what I'm saying - you could almost certainly just EQ the difference so long you have ample headroom in the amp. Be interesting to know what amp you have actually. Ashdown RM800 EVO II Orange Little Bass Thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman7755 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, BassAdder27 said: Ashdown RM800 EVO II Orange Little Bass Thing Both look decent amps, I would get cranking the low end up and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, bassman7755 said: Both look decent amps, I would get cranking the low end up and see what happens. Yep I do that too ! To be fair the Ashdown cabs are great, not the best but certainly adequate for the job. When I have the funds I may be tempted as I’ve always fancied a 4ohm 212 cab that isn’t too heavy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa3020 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I’ve gone the other way. Was using 2x Barefaced 210s cabs. Switched to 2x115 ashdown evo 2 cabs. 100% happy with my decision. I do think the 12’s from Barefaced look good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyt Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I think the BF Supertwin cab is one of the best cabs I’ve ever heard. However, if you already have 2 Ashdown 210s, which are amazing cabs as well, surely this is just GAS 😉. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I’m running a Super Twin, a 210s and a 610s. Not at the same time obviously. But I am seriously thinking of moving the Super Twin on in favour of another 210s because I just love the sound of the 10” speakers. So everyone’s different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stofferson Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I've got a BF Four10 and a two10S for modular needs, always fancied a Super Twin, I don't know why I am drawn to it. Just picked up a bargain Ashdown ABM 610 too! Still the Super Twin calls! @Muppet If your need for a two10s calls give me a shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa3020 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Muppet said: I’m running a Super Twin, a 210s and a 610s. Not at the same time obviously. But I am seriously thinking of moving the Super Twin on in favour of another 210s because I just love the sound of the 10” speakers. So everyone’s different! Yep, I’m sure I’d be in a absolute minority on here preferring ashdown 15s to barefaced 210s. Different strokes for different folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, alexa3020 said: Yep, I’m sure I’d be in a absolute minority on here preferring ashdown 15s to barefaced 210s. Different strokes for different folks. Are they the newer Pro Neo cabs from Ashdown or the older Ported ABM series with standard speakers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa3020 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Older, rear ported evo 2 cabs (with rounded steel handles & no tweeter). I only got them as a stop gap while I tried to figure out which cab to buy next, I didn’t expect to like them as much as I did, so that will be my rig for a good while now. my only issue is the lack of tweeter. It’s fine when I’m using my stingray, but my p bass could benefit from some additional top end. Im a little surprised Ashdown went sealed with the pro neos. I know they are opening a pop up shop in Denmark street London 11-16 October. If you could get there you could see the difference between the rm, Abm & Abm pro neo ranges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I live an hour away from Ashdown !! The Neo cabs are small and don’t have the thump compared to the older cabs However they are half the weight I can carry both cabs at the same time ( one in each hand ) Mine have the tweeter and I too use a PBass with a pick ( !!! ) and for rock they seem ok, maybe lack the real low end thump perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) Were the older Ashdown 210 cabs 500w rated ? Edited September 29, 2021 by BassAdder27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa3020 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Not sure about the 210’s but my cabs are 300w. I have the compact version which are actually pretty light. There was a larger 500w version of the 115 cabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Yes I think it was called Deep instead of Compact ? they have also gone away from the round handles that folks complained were uncomfortable to carry ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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