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Hey thanks guys 👍that’s really very helpful.  Yes I’m using the original strings and your comment about settling in is true.

Not liking the round wound original strings on my Rickenbacker bass (much too twangy for jazz and church situations) I changed them for Tomastik infeld flats which were good straight out of the packet and they have just improved with age. 

I’m so liking the UB, the Rick might have to get sold (We’ll see !!)  

Cheers 

Jimmy

 

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One more thing!

Has anyone removed the back cover yet?  It’s just there is something loose, rattling around. Everything works and I only discovered it when showing my wife how it breaks down  into it’s bag. 
 

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We had our rehearsal/practice yesterday and the others all thought the UB804 was “fantastic” in looks and sound. To them it sounded like a double bass!!

Everyone happy. Now I’ve got to decide if I sell my leftie Rick4003, because I can’t see when I’ll need it again. 
Thanks again for your help, guys. 👍👍

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Just resurrecting this thread again, as I'm getting more & more tempted to get myself an Ibanez Upswing....
I dithered when one came up here on BC recently, and am now kicking myself.
To be fair, I have been trying to de-clutter and sell some basses & other gear - so perhaps I shouldn't kick too hard? ;) 

Just wondering whether anyone else has recently acquired one of these, and what their thoughts are?
Do you find they sound more DB-like than many other EUB's?
I've watched quite a few YouTube videos, and sometimes it does sound more like an acoustic DB, other times it doesn't.... this will depend on many factors, of course.
 

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On 30/06/2021 at 21:43, Marc S said:

Just resurrecting this thread again, as I'm getting more & more tempted to get myself an Ibanez Upswing....
I dithered when one came up here on BC recently, and am now kicking myself.
To be fair, I have been trying to de-clutter and sell some basses & other gear - so perhaps I shouldn't kick too hard? ;) 

Just wondering whether anyone else has recently acquired one of these, and what their thoughts are?
Do you find they sound more DB-like than many other EUB's?
I've watched quite a few YouTube videos, and sometimes it does sound more like an acoustic DB, other times it doesn't.... this will depend on many factors, of course.
 

I can make mine sound real close to my upright acoustic. LaBella black nylon tapewounds and a Nordy NinoMute do the trick. If I remove the mute I can get it to sound like a fretless BG. I don't much like the factory supplied strings (DÁddario Chromes). Too metallic and snarly.

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On 30/06/2021 at 10:43, Marc S said:

Just resurrecting this thread again, as I'm getting more & more tempted to get myself an Ibanez Upswing....
I dithered when one came up here on BC recently, and am now kicking myself.
To be fair, I have been trying to de-clutter and sell some basses & other gear - so perhaps I shouldn't kick too hard? ;) 

Just wondering whether anyone else has recently acquired one of these, and what their thoughts are?
Do you find they sound more DB-like than many other EUB's?
I've watched quite a few YouTube videos, and sometimes it does sound more like an acoustic DB, other times it doesn't.... this will depend on many factors, of course.
 

I can’t recommend the Ibanez UB840 highly enough. It’s brilliant for a bass guitar player who wants to look and sound authentic in a jazz setting.  I use a Markbass CMD 121P with it but tend to have the bass (on the amp) cut back a bit.  The object is to be heard without being loud, amongst two saxes, electric piano and drums and I’ve found less bass-boom works better.  This particular upright also has each string with it’s own piezo pickup in it’s individual bridge, which has allowed me to swop the strings round - I am an unashamed lefty.  I like the original strings and believe your playing style makes a huge difference to the sound you get.

Having it’s own stand, rather than being an unsupported stick, is extremely useful in gig situation and the price is just insane - what’s not to like.

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They look really nice, and I can see the attraction of the smaller size relative to full-scale EUBs. Any DB-players out there - do you find that the shorter scale and lower tension means that if you "dig in" too hard then the Upswing can't really handle it? I'm not saying that you *have* to dig in to get a DB experience, but there are times on DB when doing so is the right thing to do....

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I have removed the nylon tapewounds and installed an old well-worn in set of TI Jazz Flats off my Fender Jazz bass. Wow! They speak with more authority than the original Chromes and the tapes. Do they sound like an acoustic bass? No. Do I care? No. I have an acoustic bass for jazz and rockabilly gigs. The UB804 is just the beez kneez for my blues, americana and latin/gypsy gigs.

Tinyd: I play a lot lighter on the Upswing than I do on the acoustic. It's a natural thing for me as the Upswing doesn't actually physically allow me to "dig in."

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On 21/04/2019 at 13:22, Mr Bassman said:

Another update.

I really like Labella 760N black nylons on my fretless basses so tried a set on the Ibanez. They were nice to play but sounded too much like a bass guitar so went for some Daddario ETB92 Tapewounds. What a difference! Less sustain with nice sound. Looking forward to trying them on a couple of gigs next weekend.

Hi again Mr Bassman.

How do the D'Addario tapewounds bow? - not that I play much with a bow.... Still. But I keep promising myself that one day, when I have more time, I will play & practice more with a bow.....

So I don't want strings that aren't suitable for bowing.

Thanks for your thoughts again good sir 😊

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Hi Marc, I know you didn’t ask me but I can answer that question, yes the original strings are perfect for bowing, and a bow is great for a long last note.  
 

On TinyDs question about ‘digging in’ I find that with the original strings that is perfectly doable. This is because of the individual bridges and aerosilk pickups, I think. 
 

Cheers

Jimmy

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Just resurrecting this thread again, as I got my Ibanez UB804 yesyerday. It is used but like new, strung with D'addario flats. Nice instrument. Never played something else than fretless basses up to now. Was willing to try for my last jazz-soul group. The sound was anyway closer to a big fretless than to a double bass. Tried to rise the action to get a more double bass sound. It worked but was then very difficult to play. Tried several strings. Tried the Roto nylon first which were the lower sustain ones on the several fretless bass on which I tried them. Surprisingly not on this UB804: fretless sound with those strings. Moreover the strings were very high at nut (also with the D'addario, had to dig the nut a bit). Tried the Galli nylon, the La Bella Deep Talking, the Dogal flat and the Galli flat (steel). Did not try the GHS flat nor the Ernie Ball cobalt flat nor the TI nor the La Bella White Nylon (steel) which favored the meow on my fretless basses. Tried several foams. It worked but was losing too much of something (presence maybe or hgh). Did not try the D'addario nylon that I like much since I was not willing to remove a set from my Fender fretless or my Carvin Bunny Brunel 5 (now with frets). Did not try the Fender nylon since I don't have a set. But I am going to order one since I got the best close to DB result with those on an Epiphone Zenith fretless that I do not have any more. Finally the best for my taste are the La Bella Copper White Nylon. Second the Galli flats. Third the D'addario flats (originally strung on this bass). I now have to dig the nut once again (already did it with the D'addario) since these Copper White nylon (as well as the Roto nylon and the Galli nylon) are larger (e.g. 115 for the E). Some fretless meow still remains (certainly due to the rosewood fretboard instead of the ebony which reduces the medium frequency band level, thus also the meow). This is part of the instrument signature. Hope this helps.

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20 years of getting basses (more than 180) and strings, removing them almost new (especially with flats) when not pleasant on a new bass. I do not play professionally, just for the pleasure. I spend less on bass stuff than some friends on Hi-Fi devices.

 

Finally came back to the Dunlop flats. A bit less pleasant to play with (metal feel vs nylon) but a bit less meow, which seems normal since flatwounds vs tapewounds (nylon coated roundwounds).

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I put a set of the D'Addario tapewounds on my Upswing. I quite liked the sound initially, and tried re-setting the string height a little.
I've mentioned before that I'm not really a bow player - but there are occasions where I bow some simple parts, as in some songs, it really works well.

The Tapewounds didn't bow as well as the strings the bass came fitted with. I also tried tweaking the string height, and found that they didn't "feel" right when set slightly higher. So after a little pondering, I re-fitted the original strings.
I must say, I definitely prefer the original strings (D'Addario flats). I'm now going to set the string height just a tad higher again, and if I do that incrementally, I might just get used to the higher action - it definitely sounds a bit more DB-like with increased string height.

I'm still loving the Upswing

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