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[dazco]

Is there anything on the market that digitally records and mixes sounds in a very easy manner, ie you play a simple bass line or riff into it and it is easy to repeat it whenever you like. It should also be able to put things in tune/time and have some drums built in.

I feel whatever it is will be linked to a PC, this does not scare me too much but ease of use is paramount.

Thanks

[Kiwi]

how about this?

DigiTech BNX3 Multi Modelling Bass Workstation



[url="http://www.playrecord.net/effects/bass-fx/digitech-bnx3-multi-modelling-bass-workstation.p27.html"]http://www.playrecord.net/effects/bass-fx/...tation.p27.html[/url]

Edit: There's one for sale here
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=27910&st=0&#entry295335"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...mp;#entry295335[/url]

[BassMunkee]

Cakewalk Sonar Power Studio 660.

That is all you need.
(And a decent laptop).

[dougal]

If you're after a DAW set-up I'd try Reaper (http://www.reaper.fm/) which is excellent & best of all - free - but it sounds like you're after something a bit simpler, and I don't think the drum programming is actually all that easy.

Could you elaborate what you're going to use it for? A sketchpad of ideas, or live performance?

[Ba55me15ter]

Reaper is not free.
REAPER is available for download without technological limitations for evaluation purposes. Once you have evaluated REAPER, you should purchase a license.

[quote name='dougal' post='295383' date='Sep 30 2008, 01:37 PM']If you're after a DAW set-up I'd try Reaper (http://www.reaper.fm/) which is excellent & best of all - free - but it sounds like you're after something a bit simpler, and I don't think the drum programming is actually all that easy.[/quote]

[WalMan]

[quote name='dazco' post='295018' date='Sep 30 2008, 12:19 AM']Is there anything on the market that digitally records and mixes sounds in a very easy manner, ie you play a simple bass line or riff into it and it is easy to repeat it whenever you like. It should also be able to put things in tune/time and have some drums built in.

I feel whatever it is will be linked to a PC, this does not scare me too much but ease of use is paramount.

Thanks[/quote]
Mackie Tracktion - [url="http://www.dv247.com/invt/27495/product.htm?gdftrk=gdfV2356_a_7c416_a_7c1181_a_7c27495"]v2 @ DV24[/url] is £29.99 and a selection of drumloops you can import (I have a load of royalty free ones in a selection of styles I could pass on). Easy to use as it flows across the screen from input to output with no sub menus / screens to navigate. Also comes with a load of plugins including Linplug RMIV, which is a midi drum sequencer that has a load of kits and loops supplied - some better than others it must be said, but all the same....

[url="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/articles/tracktion2.htm"]Sound on Sound Review[/url]

Edited September 30, 2008 by WalMan

[dazco]

[quote name='dougal' post='295383' date='Sep 30 2008, 01:37 PM']If you're after a DAW set-up I'd try Reaper (http://www.reaper.fm/) which is excellent & best of all - free - but it sounds like you're after something a bit simpler, and I don't think the drum programming is actually all that easy.

Could you elaborate what you're going to use it for? A sketchpad of ideas, or live performance?[/quote]
Hi.
What I would like to do is sit in the spare room and see if I can make my own music, just for me. So I would put a bass track, then a guitar, then a keyboard, that type of thing.

I was lookig for a machine rather than a computer programme, unless the programme is superb of course

[WalMan]

[quote name='dazco' post='295945' date='Sep 30 2008, 10:05 PM']Hi.
What I would like to do is sit in the spare room and see if I can make my own music, just for me. So I would put a bass track, then a guitar, then a keyboard, that type of thing.

I was lookig for a machine rather than a computer programme, unless the programme is superb of course[/quote]
Well you could use one of the dedicated multitrackers available from the likes of Boss. I have not used them at all having got into Tracktion on the PC.

Maybe because I have never used the dedicated machines in anger, but for what you are saying, and if you are happy with, and have a reasonable PC then I find the ease of using Tracktion, having it all there on screen in front of me and being easily able to set punch points, cut and paste tracks is great.

The tracks [url="http://www.myspace.com/scatterometer"]HERE[/url] were all done in Tracktion with a couple of PODs (Bass & Guitar), either the Wal or L2500 for bass, a Peavey Generation Exp, drum loops for the kit and an M Audio USB keyboard with Sampletank for the keyboards.

That said you don't need the PODs as you can use something like the [url="http://rekkerd.org/frettedsynth-updates-freeamp-to-v31/"]FreeAmp plugin[/url] and you can probably find free soft synths dotted around the web.

What you want to do is what I am doing when the mood strikes, and I love Tracktion (can you tell ). I bought T2 and upgraded to T3 from that for the new stuff available, but T2 would work fine for what you want and for £29.99 including the LE plugins that come with it is a bargain IMHO

Edited September 30, 2008 by WalMan

[dazco]

[quote name='WalMan' post='296047' date='Sep 30 2008, 11:39 PM']Well you could use one of the dedicated multitrackers available from the likes of Boss. I have not used them at all having got into Tracktion on the PC.

Maybe because I have never used the dedicated machines in anger, but for what you are saying, and if you are happy with, and have a reasonable PC then I find the ease of using Tracktion, having it all there on screen in front of me and being easily able to set punch points, cut and paste tracks is great.

The tracks [url="http://www.myspace.com/scatterometer"]HERE[/url] were all done in Tracktion with a couple of PODs (Bass & Guitar), either the Wal or L2500 for bass, a Peavey Generation Exp, drum loops for the kit and an M Audio USB keyboard with Sampletank for the keyboards.

That said you don't need the PODs as you can use something like the [url="http://rekkerd.org/frettedsynth-updates-freeamp-to-v31/"]FreeAmp plugin[/url] and you can probably find free soft synths dotted around the web.

What you want to do is what I am doing when the mood strikes, and I love Tracktion (can you tell ). I bought T2 and upgraded to T3 from that for the new stuff available, but T2 would work fine for what you want and for £29.99 including the LE plugins that come with it is a bargain IMHO[/quote]
Thanks for that info, in fact thanks to everyone who has replied.

One question, if you are using just a computer with no equipment how do you get the sound into your computer? And is it a basic sound that goes into your computer (and you then apply effects) or is it would have come out of your amp/speakers.

[lowdown]

If you go down the software route.
You might want to check out Computor monthly magazine.
It has a Dvd with a complete virtual studio set up.
Seq, Soft synths, fx plugins and sampler and samples.
And its all free, with plenty of tutorials.
Cost you £6.99

[dazco]

[quote name='lowdown' post='296204' date='Oct 1 2008, 09:25 AM']If you go down the software route.
You might want to check out Computor monthly magazine.
It has a Dvd with a complete virtual studio set up.
Seq, Soft synths, fx plugins and sampler and samples.
And its all free, with plenty of tutorials.
Cost you £6.99[/quote]
Thanks, I will do.

But how do you get the music onto the computer?

[lowdown]

[quote name='dazco' post='296250' date='Oct 1 2008, 10:06 AM']But how do you get the music onto the computer?[/quote]

If you are meaning your bass or gtr etc.
You will need to get an Audio card...
These all come in various forms and prices.
But the M-audio Delta 9236 [ PCI card ], will come in around £45.00.
And for the money is Fantastic.
Or the firewire or USB cards...more money, more ins and outs.
But for what you seem to be after.
The Delta card and the free stuff from computor Music,
Will have you up and running to a good standard for very little outlay,
around the £50.00 mark.

You will also need a pair of monitors,
But thats another kettle of fish..
Although you will get by with a decent set of headphones.
Not ideal but ok for a good starting point.

Plenty of guys aboard this site who will help you along.
So keep firing you questions.
might wanna move this post to the recording section.
You get more help over there.


Garry

Edited October 1, 2008 by lowdown

[WalMan]

[quote name='dazco' post='296195' date='Oct 1 2008, 09:17 AM']Thanks for that info, in fact thanks to everyone who has replied.

One question, if you are using just a computer with no equipment how do you get the sound into your computer? And is it a basic sound that goes into your computer (and you then apply effects) or is it would have come out of your amp/speakers.[/quote]
What lowdown says.

Personally I have an EMU sound card with assorted ins & outs and a little Yamaha mixer I had kicking aroud that I feed into the card.

The PODs I could put in using the USB, but I have never been able to kill the latency on playback so tend to feed the guitar POD in through the mixer. That does mean that I am stuck with whatever patch I record

The BOD Pro I recently worked out how to use the digital in/out so can feed the sound card bass model & plain DI to record to two separate tracks and then have the option to send the DI back out for a different patch if I want.

I could just plug the bass into the yamaha so far as it goes, but as I have the extra toys they get used.

[tauzero]

[quote name='lowdown' post='296204' date='Oct 1 2008, 09:25 AM']If you go down the software route.
You might want to check out Computor monthly magazine.
It has a Dvd with a complete virtual studio set up.
Seq, Soft synths, fx plugins and sampler and samples.
And its all free, with plenty of tutorials.
Cost you £6.99[/quote]
Is it available at the average W H Smiths? And is the name of the magazine just "Computor"?

[lowdown]

[quote name='tauzero' post='298668' date='Oct 3 2008, 03:42 PM']Is it available at the average W H Smiths? And is the name of the magazine just "Computor"?[/quote]

Sorry about that....
'Computor Music Magazine'
W H Smiths....
You can order online as well..
Whatever there site is...



Garry

[YouMa]

I am a massive fan of virtual studio technology and have been using various VSTs and VSTIs (Synths mainly) for about 10 years i would highly reccomend you get ableton live.It took me a few years of using awful things like cubase and protools,to realise that ableton is the best and you dont need a degree in software engineering to use it.If you want any loops or anything email me i have racks of em.The standard of sound manipulation you can get on modern digital audio work stations is incredible,however you will need to get yourself a half decent sound card.