goonieman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Bass-complete-with-Warwick-rock-bass-case-extras-ideal-learner-guitar/262001036265?_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29974%26meid%3Dabef5f354be0441f88d57d51a9438bb6%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231626322716 knock yourself out. This is so badly done I feel just sick looking at it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 But yet he is [i]actually[/i] sneakily implying it could be a Warwick, whilst drawing unnecessary attention to the make of the gig bag in the title. I hate people like that, some poor [gullible] sod will bid on this thinking he is grabbing a bargain Warwick off someone who 'doesn't know' what he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I can`t really see anything wrong with the Ad. If anyone reads the description and thinks they are getting a Warwick, then they can only blame themselves.He even says he has no idea of the make of the bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 [quote name='timmo' timestamp='1439621500' post='2844387'] I can`t really see anything wrong with the Ad. If anyone reads the description and thinks they are getting a Warwick, then they can only blame themselves.He even says he has no idea of the make of the bass. [/quote] No, there is nothing 'wrong' with the Ad. But, why name the gig bag make in the title? Why not comment, specifically, that this is a copy of a Warwick and not a real one? Where did he get this bass from? Yes, you would be pretty daft to buy this thinking it was the real deal, but people will make this mistake, particularly in the dying minutes of the auction. He is being devious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The bass itself looks OK to me as a Warwick copy. I think it's a pity that someone has stuck a W on the headstock. As a no-brand, who knows how well it plays and sounds. Probably OK. I won't comment on the ad being deceptive, as I think it's a bit borderline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonieman Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 [quote name='Kev' timestamp='1439622173' post='2844390'] No, there is nothing 'wrong' with the Ad. But, why name the gig bag make in the title? Why not comment, specifically, that this is a copy of a Warwick and not a real one? Where did he get this bass from? Yes, you would be pretty daft to buy this thinking it was the real deal, but people will make this mistake, particularly in the dying minutes of the auction. He is being devious. [/quote] Indeed, it's dubious and questionable resale ethics... at best. If you look closely, its very shoddily put together. I remember being a teenager and I was very naive... i'd be tempted by such a thing. Very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 [quote name='goonieman' timestamp='1439664610' post='2844851'] Indeed, it's dubious and questionable resale ethics... at best. If you look closely, its very shoddily put together. I remember being a teenager and I was very naive... i'd be tempted by such a thing. Very sad. [/quote] What's wrong with it? Looking closely, I see that the veneer on the top is chipped, not quite finished well around the edges. The pickup routing looks slightly generous. I can't see anything else obviously wrong. The bridge and other hardware appear straight. The neck through body looks OK from the distance of the photos. Apart from the top veneer, which isn't a deal breaker for a cheap bass IMHO, what else is shoddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1439664885' post='2844855'] What's wrong with it? Looking closely, I see that the veneer on the top is chipped, not quite finished well around the edges. The pickup routing looks slightly generous. I can't see anything else obviously wrong. The bridge and other hardware appear straight. The neck through body looks OK from the distance of the photos. Apart from the top veneer, which isn't a deal breaker for a cheap bass IMHO, what else is shoddy? [/quote] The standouts for me are: The top wood is awfully done The body wings are bizarre and unequal in size The bridge is off centre The pickups are not in line The pickups are also not parallel...unintentionally The bass shape is a clone of a Corvette $$ and, being familiar with the model, it is very difficult to look at as there is so much wrong with the shape. The control cavity is a very odd design The neck carve looks uneven, particularly behind the nut The tuners are out of line Every time I look at it I see something else. Shoddy is a very good word to describe it. Personally, I would rather a cheap P bass copy than a poorly done NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Looking at this Ali Express page, it appears that the 'W' has been added at the factory. This is slightly different from the eBay bass, but there is enough family resemblance that I expect they were made in the same factory: http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/Free-shipping-Top-quality-2014-new-Warwick-LTD-Corvette-5-strings-bass-Dark-brown-electric-bass/1541477289.html Given that it appears to have been intended to be a copy/forgery, then more of your criticisms hit home. If it were just a similar bass that someone 'W'ed, then I don't think it would be so objectionable if the shape etc. was a bit different from the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonieman Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Exactly - on previous 2 post above... only to add, that being familiar with warwick products and paraphernalia, that is not (in my experience) a Warwick 'Rockbag'. The whole lot is a sad indictment really, especially given the seller seems to have potentially given up on playing bass now... I dread to think that if he/she was given a playable entry- level bass - like a well setup classic vibe - that they would still be learning and thriving playing bass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 If you look in the "Item specifics" section, you'll see that the brand is given as "Warwick". Reported as a counterfeit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonieman Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1439725133' post='2845215'] If you look in the "Item specifics" section, you'll see that the brand is given as "Warwick". Reported as a counterfeit. [/quote] Nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 [quote name='goonieman' timestamp='1439676984' post='2844984'] Exactly - on previous 2 post above... only to add, that being familiar with warwick products and paraphernalia, that is not (in my experience) a Warwick 'Rockbag'. [/quote] That's what they called the Crosswalker or something like that. I had two of them in the past and the rucksack detaches. Assuming of course that it's a real one I'd give the guy the benefit of the doubt and think he's put Warwick as the brand as the bass doesn't have an obvious brand name and it does ask you for a brand name when posting the ad. The bag is Warwick so I think that's why he's done it. He does clearly state in the ad that he doesn't know the brand name of the bass so I don't see how he's trying to con anyone. If anyone does buy it thinking it's a Warwick then it will be because they haven't bothered to read the description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1439725133' post='2845215'] If you look in the "Item specifics" section, you'll see that the brand is given as "Warwick". Reported as a counterfeit. [/quote] Good shout, I managed to miss that. Reported as well. Devious bar steward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 [quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1439773472' post='2845678'] I'd give the guy the benefit of the doubt and think he's put Warwick as the brand as the bass doesn't have an obvious brand name and it does ask you for a brand name when posting the ad. The bag is Warwick so I think that's why he's done it. [/quote] You do have the option of not putting anything in there. I do agree he's specifically stated that he doesn't know the brand in the wording, but there's something of the subliminal about where it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire5 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 [url="http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Factory-war-Rick-5-strings-bass-guitar-Hott-selling-bass-with-9V-active-pickups/32398566143.html"]http://www.aliexpres...2398566143.html[/url] Have a look at this one.They get away with calling it a war-Rick.Blatant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 [quote name='squire5' timestamp='1439803461' post='2845805'] [url="http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Factory-war-Rick-5-strings-bass-guitar-Hott-selling-bass-with-9V-active-pickups/32398566143.html"]http://www.aliexpres...2398566143.html[/url] Have a look at this one.They get away with calling it a war-Rick.Blatant. [/quote]Just accessed the link from Italy - guerra-Rick - doesn't quite translate does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 [quote name='squire5' timestamp='1439803461' post='2845805'] [url="http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Factory-war-Rick-5-strings-bass-guitar-Hott-selling-bass-with-9V-active-pickups/32398566143.html"]http://www.aliexpres...2398566143.html[/url] Have a look at this one.They get away with calling it a war-Rick.Blatant. [/quote] Jeez, what a dreadful thing The headstock looks like a kitchen utensil (much the same as a real Warwick, really) and the control knobs appear to have been fired at it from a blunderbuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 That fake Warwick doesn't look any less sh*te than a 'proper' one to me... I think the Corvette has to be the ugliest bass in the history of the universe, the very definition of 'turd on a stick'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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