BetaFunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Self explanatory really but i still can't get my head around the term Freak Beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 It's all rock 'n' roll to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Never heard of it . Does that mean I am not hip any more ? Does not compute ! Does not compute ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Just googled it . Panic over . It turns out it's old timers music from the Sixties . From what I just read , it's kind of like The Shadows with clinical depression . For a minute then I thought I might be out of touch with youth culture . Thank God it's a retro thing . Edited June 11, 2013 by Dingus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1370986984' post='2108431'] Self explanatory really but i still can't get my head around the term Freak Beat.[/quote] Why not? You've had more than 45 years to do so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) I have Nuggets 2 and a few other psychedelia compilations and I've never heard the term before, think people just make this nonsense up to appear more informed than they are sometimes. Were people at the time really referring to these bands as 'freakbeat' bands? I'm a bit young to have been musically switched on in the late 60's. Edited June 11, 2013 by KevB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1370988449' post='2108459'] Were people at the time really referring to these bands as 'freakbeat' bands?[/quote] I doubt it very much. Just as myself and other fans of CAN [i]et al[/i] in the 70s didn't refer to what they did as 'Krautrock'. Edited June 11, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1370989123' post='2108467'] I doubt it very much. Just as myself and other fans of CAN [i]et al[/i] in the 70s didn't refer to what they did as 'Krautrock'. [/quote] I can distinctly remember NME using the term Krautrock on one of its covers at the time (this being around 75-77). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1370989735' post='2108476'] I can distinctly remember NME using the term Krautrock on one of its covers at the time (this being around 75-77).[/quote] [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1370988449' post='2108459'] I've never heard the term before, think people just make this nonsense up to appear more informed than they are sometimes.[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EssentialTension Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 It's not a term that was used at the time but I understood it now to mean that tight period around 1966-1967 when what had been [u][b]beat[/b][/u] groups, often influenced by US soul and R&B, became purveyors of psychedelia (that's the [b][u]freak[/u][/b] part). Mind altering substances may have been involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1370988361' post='2108456'] Why not? You've had more than 45 years to do so! [/quote] That's exactly the point. Edited June 11, 2013 by BetaFunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Of course i know when the term Freak Beat was first used but it annoyed me than and continues to annoy me. If you'd have used this term to describe a type of music in the 60s or 70s in your local record shop the men in white coats would have come to take you away. To me it's a re writing of history and the term should be banished forever. Edited June 11, 2013 by BetaFunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myke Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Never heard of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 [quote name='Myke' timestamp='1370992935' post='2108532'] Never heard of it [/quote] Good. That's one already. We can win this folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 All in good time. I'm still having problems with 'Hepcat'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I wonder when it was first used? I knew someone who did a fanzine called Freakbeat in the mid eighties, and that was the first I'd heard of it. Pretty sure it must have been around well before then though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 And a quick google later... It seems it was invented in 1980 to sell records by Bam Caruso. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/whats-on/music/coventry-freakbeat-still-being-celebrated-4029682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1370992714' post='2108529'] Of course i know when the term Freak Beat was first used but it annoyed me than and continues to annoy me. If you'd have used this term to describe a type of music in the 60s or 70s in your local record shop the men in white coats would have come to take you away. To me it's a re writing of history and the term should be banished forever. [/quote] Historical periodization is always after the fact and looking back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1371020696' post='2108619'] And a quick google later... It seems it was invented in 1980 to sell records by Bam Caruso. [url="http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/whats-on/music/coventry-freakbeat-still-being-celebrated-4029682"]http://www.coventryt...ebrated-4029682[/url] [/quote] I didn't know that but I was in a band thinking of itself as kind of freakbeat revival in 1983ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Ugh... when will it all stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1371020696' post='2108619'] It seems it was invented in 1980 to sell records by Bam Caruso. [url="http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/whats-on/music/coventry-freakbeat-still-being-celebrated-4029682"]http://www.coventryt...ebrated-4029682[/url][/quote] Ha! And I have also discovered that 'Krautrock' was a derogatory term invented by the British music press, but I have yet to find out exactly when it was first used. Edited June 12, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earbrass Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370988002' post='2108450'] From what I just read , it's kind of like The Shadows with clinical depression . [/quote] So you could get the same effect by playing the 45s at 33? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 [quote name='Musky' timestamp='1371020696' post='2108619'] It seems it was invented in 1980 to sell records by Bam Caruso. [url="http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/whats-on/music/coventry-freakbeat-still-being-celebrated-4029682"]http://www.coventryt...ebrated-4029682[/url] [/quote] ....and it has annoyed me ever since. The first time i saw the term was at a record fair in the 80s when a lot of people in their late teens and 20s were getting into 60s Beat groups vinyl. Within a few weeks every dealer had a Freak Beat section and started to talk about certain groups as 'Freak Beat'. It still annoys me but then i suppose that Classical music wasn't called Classical at the time either. Anyway i'm off to listen to some Metal-Funk, Rave-Groove, Prog-Beat, Beat-Funk, Fuzz-Rock, Thrash-Ska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1371031451' post='2108769'] <snip> Anyway i'm off to listen to some Metal-Funk, Rave-Groove, Prog-Beat, Beat-Funk, Fuzz-Rock, Thrash-Ska. [/quote] You forgot the Folk-Metal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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