SimonEdward Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1365360471' post='2038553'] Don't concentrate on being loud enough to hear yourself. Instead, be quiet enough that you can hear everyone else. If everyone does that, then there is no problem. [/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) [size=4][quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1365360471' post='2038553'] Don't concentrate on being loud enough to hear yourself. Instead, be quiet enough that you can hear everyone else. [/quote] Another +1 for that![/size] Edited April 7, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloc Riff Nut Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Why don't we use a decibel app to see how loud everyone is rehearsing? We aren't together until next wednesday so it's gonna be a while before I can post a value. How loud do you rehearse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) What, actually compare figures..? Too many variables surely, not least the differences in rehearsal room size? Edited April 7, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloc Riff Nut Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It was more for the fun, I wasn't thinking about an official paper ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 [quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1365350912' post='2038355'] I don't accept that as being true. Get someone else to play a few bars on your stage rig at a couple sound checks, dial in some settings that sound good to you [b]out front [/b](or just trust the judgement of a bass playing mate)stick to those settings from then on with minor tweaks and play with confidence that the audience is getting a good sound[b], [/b]thus freeing you from the psychological comfort blanket of needing your precious "tone" on stage. [/quote] Why would I do that...? I get the sound on stage that I want. I then deliver it to the soundman. I know a lot more about the sound that works for me than he does. It isn't going to be a poor sound, so why would he worry? As said above... the only reason the engr should get involved is if the sound needed a lot of work. He works with what I give him...and sure, we can talk about it, and the conversation is cordial, but I am right about what sound I want. He isn't going to know any more..and I may only have just met him. What I expect from him is that he knows his kit...and that is not always a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 [quote name='Stan_da_man' timestamp='1365332461' post='2038058'] Fact of the matter is, you won't be playing a gig quietly unless you're one of those sh*tty bands which only does gigs at seated venues ( ). [/quote] Not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 [b]"The threshold of pain, depending on the frequency composition, is to find between 120 dB and 140 dB."[/b] A quote taken from the site linked below. If you look at the chart on that site, it gives examples of different noise levels and what causes them. As I see it, any band with guitars, drums and bass, is going to harm your hearing, unless you protect your ears. It is impossible for this type of band to play quietly enough to do otherwise. [url="http://www.sengpielaudio.com/TableOfSoundPressureLevels.htm"]http://www.sengpielaudio.com/TableOfSoundPressureLevels.htm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroydiamond Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1365412159' post='2039050'] [b]"The threshold of pain, depending on the frequency composition, is to find between 120 dB and 140 dB."[/b] A quote taken from the site linked below. If you look at the chart on that site, it gives examples of different noise levels and what causes them. As I see it, any band with guitars, drums and bass, is going to harm your hearing, unless you protect your ears. It is impossible for this type of band to play quietly enough to do otherwise. [url="http://www.sengpielaudio.com/TableOfSoundPressureLevels.htm"]http://www.sengpiela...ssureLevels.htm[/url] [/quote] +1 That is it in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmcnamara Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Having played in many bands over the years my hearing has suffered to such a point that I won't tolerate loud unprotected music so, as many musicans can't emphasise and refuse to turn down, I turn them down by wearing custom made ear protectors: made by ACS and moulded to my ear canal. You can choose the amount of attenuation you want, you can even convert them to IEM's. They do take some getting used to, but really work brilliantly. Cost about £140.... but what price your hearing? ATB Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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