Hamster Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 We're thinking of retiring our rattling and heavy stage lights for some of them new-fangled LED spots. We wouldn't have much use for a full blown DMX console controlled system, probably just 3 lighting poles with 4 spots on each. I've seen some LED lights that are pretty weak and feeble and some that look pretty good. What do you guys recommend; first for a tight budget and then something a little better for not too much more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I got something from the bottom end of the market - KAM Party Bar, and just one of them. On small stages it is adequate. 2 would be better. I wish I had bought either the KAM Parbar or Equinox versions - I've seen both in action and they are brighter and more robust. Teach me to be a cheapskate, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 We've had a couple of KAM ParBars for about 3 years. Great lights. Easy set-up and bright enough for most needs. There are many "clones" as well but I must say the KAM's have stood up well over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 There are loads of threads on this already. I have an Equinox set which is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Odd. When I searched from my desktop I only found a couple of hits, but searching via my iPhone I found several of the ones you allude to? Well if anyone else wants to chip in, there may be some new stuff out that wasn't mentioned in previous threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 QTX SPSW all the way. The difference these have a great wide spread of light. Much better than most others. £89 each. We have four of them that we got from here: [url="http://www.guitarandampshop.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww.guitarandampshop.co.uk%2f&WD=qtx&PN=QTX_SP-SW_Stage_Wash_LED_PAR_Can_Light_Effect__153.786UK_.html%23a11249#a11249"]http://www.guitarandampshop.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww.guitarandampshop.co.uk%2f&WD=qtx&PN=QTX_SP-SW_Stage_Wash_LED_PAR_Can_Light_Effect__153.786UK_.html%23a11249#a11249[/url] T-Bar that we bought for £15 on ebay ..... [url="http://www.whybuynew.co.uk/stands/lighting-stands/heavy-duty-lighting-t-bar-for-speaker-lighting-stands-.htm"]http://www.whybuynew.co.uk/stands/lighting-stands/heavy-duty-lighting-t-bar-for-speaker-lighting-stands-.htm[/url] which we stuck on a speaker stand. Sometimes we stick all four on there, sometimes just two with the other two point up with a sound to light mode on. You can get all four of them to work in unison. If you have three poles with four on each you could get them all working together, Have to be a big stage to use twelve of these though. They are very powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 We use Thomans Starville 4 LEDS. One set of 4 lights a small 5x5mtr area in a pub well enough. 2 would be better but we never really have enough room as it is, so anothe tripod..?? I find the illumination good enough. We hire other stuff in if required. The tripods themselves are cheap and nasty...and the foor controller is ok... but the lights themselves are where the money is well spent, IMO. The other components can easily and cheaply be replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 equinox we use which are ok and cheap, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 [quote name='Hamster' timestamp='1364132857' post='2022208'] Odd. When I searched from my desktop I only found a couple of hits, but searching via my iPhone I found several of the ones you allude to? [/quote] I gave up using the search engine on this site ages ago, in favour of using "site:basschat.co.uk" in a google search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazhowe Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 LEDJ Q colours are really good for a stage wash and have in built program's so you don't have to use a controller. I would recommend some separate LED par cans (such as the LEDJ Slimline 229's) to provide some contrast to the wash if your budget will cover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkgod Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1364313027' post='2024688'] We use Thomans Starville 4 LEDS. One set of 4 lights a small 5x5mtr area in a pub well enough. 2 would be better but we never really have enough room as it is, so anothe tripod..?? I find the illumination good enough. We hire other stuff in if required. The tripods themselves are cheap and nasty...and the foor controller is ok... but the lights themselves are where the money is well spent, IMO. The other components can easily and cheaply be replaced [/quote] Im with you, I have been using the Thomans Starville led par cans now for years and they have been great. i use 4 per side with a behringer dmx controler as the starville dmx master 1 packed in. lots of good reasons for getting them, power saving .. if you use the old par bulbs 500w even 1000w each thats alot of power to use on the usually limited sockets at a venue the bulbs are almost wasted anyway unless you have something for the light to fall on so a fogger or a hazer will help the lights make the show. the great thing about the dmx controllers is you can program each song, worth spending a bit of time to get to grips on Just test/try on one song see what effect it has and befor you know it your hooked, and add other bits along the way the dmx bars are very handy very quick to set up, all wiring power and sig is internal. And a big plus is they are light,( excuse the pun ) so hamster if keep your eyes out on ebay you can get some gooood used deals, i went for these.. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_led_lighting_kit_par56_10mm_s.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...ar56_10mm_s.htm[/url] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/behringer-eurolight-lc2412-Dmx-Light-Mixer-Controller-/300880933995?pt=UK_ConElec_LightingLEDsStrobes_RL&hash=item460de6b46b"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item460de6b46b[/url] i know £204 x2 is alot for lights then fogger and poles, but as said keep your eye on ebay. i got a real good deal eg my controller as above for £35. PS,,,, another great investment if using lights, to get the best out of them get a black back drop ! ! worth the effort. Edited March 26, 2013 by funkgod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 [quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1364321429' post='2024879'] I gave up using the search engine on this site ages ago, in favour of using "site:basschat.co.uk" in a google search. [/quote] I have to agree Pete. The engine that came with this version of the board sucks compared to the last one. We're currently saving up to buy the next raft of upgrades and pay our webdev to install them - and then hopefully 'search' will work properly again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 [quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1364332978' post='2025096'] Im with you, I have been using the Thomans Starville led par cans now for years and they have been great. i use 4 per side with a behringer dmx controler as the starville dmx master 1 packed in. lots of good reasons for getting them, power saving .. if you use the old par bulbs 500w even 1000w each thats alot of power to use on the usually limited sockets at a venue the bulbs are almost wasted anyway unless you have something for the light to fall on so a fogger or a hazer will help the lights make the show. the great thing about the dmx controllers is you can program each song, worth spending a bit of time to get to grips on Just test/try on one song see what effect it has and befor you know it your hooked, and add other bits along the way the dmx bars are very handy very quick to set up, all wiring power and sig is internal. And a big plus is they are light,( excuse the pun ) so hamster if keep your eyes out on ebay you can get some gooood used deals, i went for these.. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_led_lighting_kit_par56_10mm_s.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...ar56_10mm_s.htm[/url] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/behringer-eurolight-lc2412-Dmx-Light-Mixer-Controller-/300880933995?pt=UK_ConElec_LightingLEDsStrobes_RL&hash=item460de6b46b"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item460de6b46b[/url] i know £204 x2 is alot for lights then fogger and poles, but as said keep your eye on ebay. i got a real good deal eg my controller as above for £35. PS,,,, another great investment if using lights, to get the best out of them get a black back drop ! ! worth the effort. [/quote] The cash I can do - but that's a shitload of buttons to press on a DMX controller! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkgod Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yea i think it was based on concorde's cockpitt, not as bad as you think once you get into it just another learning curve. A manual here to see if its your thing.... http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/LC2412.aspx tutorial here,,,, but looks confusing at first, but handy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1_LenI-pU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 Ummmm - lots to think about. Do you use a fixed program or sound to light or do you tailor each program to particular songs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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