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Early 70s jazz/funk/fusion! - recommendations?


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[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1359548337' post='1956338']
I would also be interested to find out if there are any British jazz classics from this era?
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Gary Boyle was (i think) born in India but this has lots of British musicians on it from 1977 and is certainly a Brit Jazz Fusion classic.

http://youtu.be/0Tkoz_R4J3w

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[quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1359551827' post='1956443']
I'm not sure that what you're after actually exists. There were British artists such as Caravan and Soft Machine, but may well be a little too Proggy for your taste.
Later in the 70s you had Bruford, Allan Holdsworth, Brand X etc but they may be a little too rocky for you.
Seems what you're after comes mainly from the States, as your list of artists would suggest. Not sure there are any British Jazz Classics, of the kind you want, from that era.
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I agree that most is going to come from the U.S. but there certainly were a few British Fusion classics of that era. Anything by Ian Carr's Nucleus, a couple of Gary Boyle LPs for example and there was plenty of musicians playing that kind of stuff around this period. I think that it just all got lumped into the jazz scene in the U.K. whereas the U.S. had it's own Fusion scene.
There may not be many LPs that could be classed as British classics but there is a lot still out there that maybe should have been classics.

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Although early 80's, two albums by Wayne Johnson - The fanatstic Jimmy Johnson on Bass..................
From the 'Grasshopper' Album....
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUCKZFaAUFI[/media]

From 'Arrowhead' Album...........
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0wJqoiMBMQ[/media]


Garry

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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1359578859' post='1957052']
Although early 80's, two albums by Wayne Johnson - The fanatstic Jimmy Johnson on Bass..................

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The original post was re: 70s fusion but if you're venturing into the 80s then this was a very good period for British Fusion also.

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[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359581228' post='1957111']
The original post was re: 70s fusion[/quote]

I know it says 70's, and I did say 80's......but hey no problem, Music [ fusion] is Music [fusion] regardless of era...
shame to let some goodies get away...... :D


Garry

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[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1359576243' post='1956992']
sounds good :)
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Nucleus were up there with the best of them in the 70s but mostly overlooked the other side of the pond. In the 80s i saw Weather Report @Hammersmith Odeon and the same week saw the Steve Franklin Group with a similar line-up in a London pub. I can honestly say that the SFG would have blown Weather Report off the stage with their playing but who cared? One group had their name in lights outside Hammersmith Odeon while the other group just played in pubs.

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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1359581631' post='1957124']
I know it says 70's, and I did say 80's......but hey no problem, Music [ fusion] is Music [fusion] regardless of era...
shame to let some goodies get away...... :D


Garry
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I agree! The trouble is that you've opened up the 80s and a whole load of albums that i have to search for in my house to play again!!!

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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1359581631' post='1957124']
I know it says 70's, and I did say 80's......but hey no problem, Music [ fusion] is Music [fusion] regardless of era...
shame to let some goodies get away...... :D
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......and here is definitely a goodie from that period with Steve Lamb on Bass (Status headless if my memory is correct).

http://youtu.be/405vKD76VZ4

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[quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1359585992' post='1957277']
Colin Hodgkinson on bass . Back Door , a band from Yorkshire . Sax , bass and drums .
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE1GnnjS4Ms[/media]
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I used to see Colin and his trusty black 1962 Fender Precision around pubs in Peterborough in the 70s. Great player with a playing style like no one else i've ever seen.

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You've listed Herbie there, but you missed what is possibly his funkiest album ... Man-Child

Get your ears around this ...

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgBrPQCSdW4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgBrPQCSdW4[/url]

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[quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1359585992' post='1957277']
Colin Hodgkinson on bass . Back Door , a band from Yorkshire . Sax , bass and drums .
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE1GnnjS4Ms[/media]
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That's fantastic!

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[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359577415' post='1957010']
I agree that most is going to come from the U.S. but there certainly were a few British Fusion classics of that era. Anything by Ian Carr's Nucleus, a couple of Gary Boyle LPs for example and there was plenty of musicians playing that kind of stuff around this period. I think that it just all got lumped into the jazz scene in the U.K. whereas the U.S. had it's own Fusion scene.
There may not be many LPs that could be classed as British classics but there is a lot still out there that maybe should have been classics.
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There was indeed a plethora of bands playing fusion. Maybe I took your post too literally. Some of those suggested for listening here I assumed would be a little too '[i]rocky or too tricksy/prog[/i]' for you.
If not, then maybe check out some of the bands/artists that were around the Canterbury scene in the 70s (2 of which I mention in my earlier post).

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[quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359552288' post='1956456']
i think this is as early as your maybe going to find early UK jazz Funk unless its underground stuff... i could be wrong.. i remember when this first came out, it was revalation for british jazz funk.... followed them ever since, but the a very different band now. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvp3Xu1_Dw[/media]
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Great band but here was a thriving UK Jazz Funk scene some time before this. Two other Jean-Paul 'Bluey' Maunick groups, Beggar & Co, Light Of The World as well as FBI, Central Line, Heatwave in their early days and Gonzalez before they went disco all flew the flag for UK Jazz Funk.

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good call Beta Funk.. mentioned Beggar and co and light of the world.. central line were very cool..around at the same sort of time though.. the first band that Bluey constructed was a band called the Warriors.. so ive just contradicted myself.. :D can i find there music.? really hard to find....love heatwave, but the only english man was rod temperton

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[quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359733693' post='1959591']
good call Beta Funk.. mentioned Beggar and co and light of the world.. central line were very cool..around at the same sort of time though.. the first band that Bluey constructed was a band called the Warriors.. so ive just contradicted myself.. :D can i find there music.? really hard to find....love heatwave, but the only english man was rod temperton
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I saw these bands live at the time and as you probably know they were a lot more funky live than on record. They could all kick up a storm on stage. Central Line were a really tight band. I still have The Warriors 'Behind The Mask' LP on vinyl. Oh, and that bloke Temperton didn't do too bad did he?

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