fender73 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1350931183' post='1845255'] Bass I love to hate. The well made , very versatile and extremely playable workmanlike Jaydee. A professional's instrument to be proud of......... and I think they're too ugly to even look at !! Sorry Jaydee fans but they're just hideous. [/quote] I disagree on the looks, but it's the sound i couldn't get on with with mine...still don't think i could *hate* it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender73 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1350932016' post='1845271'] Anyway i'm not playing cos i love precisions and you're all slagging them orf [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1350858196' post='1844466'] Anything headless, they look like snow shovels with strings. Anything that has an odd looking exotic wood top, they look like coffee tables, horrid. Anything with more than 4 strings, simply unneccessary. LED's, really??, do people [i]actually[/i] think these are cool?? Any Wish bass. These are jokes right? I could go on, and on, and on, I have far more bass-hates than bass-likes. [/quote] Rick, we have much to discuss Can anybody tell me- when it comes to modulus, it seems to be a very marmite thing. I aspire to getting one, so somebody tell me what it is that makes people hate them? the best reason i have heard so far is that they feel "plastic-y", i suppose the graphite neck and high gloss finish would make them feel a bit like a toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1350931183' post='1845255'] I'm of the school of thought that he fine tuned it and got it 100% at the second attempt (not withstanding the 'prototype slab body single coil stretched telecaster guitar). All the niggles of the classic Precision are sorted with a Musicman Stingray. It's always been a Precision Mk II to me. Whatever - I still prefer the niggles of the Mk I ! [/quote] i always thought of it as a MK11 jazz bass... maybe i'm just wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Blackbird88' timestamp='1350911021' post='1844918'] Fenders, simply for the lack of originality, in all the time P and J basses have existed the body design has never really changed much, and they never seem to try anything new. Probably why I like the Blacktop Jazz, there's a bit of creativity there, deviating from the norm and taking a risk. [/quote] eeem, what? fender recently produced an article on "the instruments you didn't know fender made". There were 5, violins and such, than at the bottom, a link, because fender has produced so many different basses over the years (excluding all P's and J's here) that they had an entirely different article for it. fender has risked a lot, especially in terms of bass guitars, it just never beat the originals, and lack of demand meant they ultimately dropped most of them. stick THAT in yer pipe and smoke it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1350895355' post='1844647'] I can forgive Fenders for being 'boring' because of their pedigree, but I find Ibanez SR and those old Bass Collections with the skinny headstock really, really dull looking, as if they were designed by a committee of accountants. [/quote] good news- today we made the headstock an entire 8.7% smaller. This will result in less wasted timber and provide an annual saving of around £20! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stance Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1350933296' post='1845303'] eeem, what? fender recently produced an article on "the instruments you didn't know fender made". There were 5, violins and such, than at the bottom, a link, because fender has produced so many different basses over the years (excluding all P's and J's here) that they had an entirely different article for it. fender has risked a lot, especially in terms of bass guitars, it just never beat the originals, and lack of demand meant they ultimately dropped most of them. stick THAT in yer pipe and smoke it [/quote] Do you have the link to that article? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Alembics. Can't stand the design, they look horrific and the price tags are equally painful. All the more annoying as in every vid and sound clip I've ever seen, they sound amazing. Really nice, full tone with a good zing to the top end but very balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Stance' timestamp='1350933869' post='1845312'] Do you have the link to that article? Thanks [/quote] oh, don't doubt me. i will hoke it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 http://axvault.com/2012/10/10/five-other-fender-instruments/ there's the article. Can't be bothered finding the links to the bass specific part, but it should be in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1350932689' post='1845288'] i always thought of it as a MK11 jazz bass... maybe i'm just wrong [/quote] A ray's too 'chunky' all round for a jazz , I think. As for you LED haters.............. 2 things 1) For everyone - side LED's (not on the front) have been a godsend to me. I had them put on my Shuker and they work well in bright sinlight and spot lights as well as in the dark. 2) I'm seriously thinking of having Aurora put front LEDs and also a lit pickguard on my Blueflower Jap 54P with it's red dice knobs and pink furry strap. It's a fun bass ( though the badass , Schaller pegs and Duncan pup upgrades make it serious too) - so why not have more fun ?? Is it cool.......... well , I can't answer that because I don't know what cool is and have no desire to find out - but it would suit my camp/OTTstage persona and the band's image to a tee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='StephenFerguson' timestamp='1350928514' post='1845210'] Grrrrrr For the price of a t-bird and the amount of time gibson have had to perfect the "design" I resent having to tweak the bugger just to get a well balanced bass, at the end of the day I prefer to play on a well balanced peice of wood with a good allroung range (exepting my P bass which has a,,,,,p bass range but its allowed) rather than an unweildy coffe table . Oh and for the record, some of the cheap tanglewoods and aria basses I have played are just as good as alot of branded mid range basses...flame returned [/quote] You have a point. Flame off. I was thinking of the epi t-bird, most of the gibby ones I've played have balanced ok. It's just that the heads tend to snap off for no good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1350935890' post='1845355'] You have a point. Flame off. I was thinking of the epi t-bird, most of the gibby ones I've played have balanced ok. It's just that the heads tend to snap off for no good reason. [/quote] the heads snap off because they are a different piece of timber from the rest of the neck, scarf jointed onto the top of the neck. They do this so they can tilt the headstock back and avoid the strings jumping out of the nut or anything like that. lots of brands don't do that, because it weakens an already weak part of the neck, but i suppose its personal preference really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Beatles Hofner violin bass.....ugly. Jaydee . Gibson ebo. Not too keen on fenders , but....love my 77telecaster (?!?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Warwick... and I played one for 18 years so I know them VERY well indeed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick's Fine '52 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1350902988' post='1844758'] Yes and yes, couple of twiddles on the bridge and truss rod and they were fine. Quick move of the strap button/chuck some weight on the body end of your strap and the t-bird stays put just lovely. If you can't play bass well you may need to buy a more expensive instrument to make up for it. *flame on....* [/quote] If you have to do too much twiddling, adjustments of truss rods, move the strap button positions, and add weight to the body, then to be honest, you're buying a sh*te bass, and definitely the [i]wrong[/i] bass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What be this 'ere "neck-dive" of which ye speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm not a fan of Thunderbirds in any way,however the Mike Lull T-Bird is killer. Ric's aren't my favourites either-they look cool enough,but I don't like playing them. Pointy basses in general I find horrible. I generally like Ibanez basses,but I wish they'd stop making signature basses with stupid graphics and inlays (That big K5 inlay ruins an otherwise nice bass.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird88 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1350911953' post='1844935'] err.... you know fender invented the original right? [/quote] I do, I meant that not much about them has changed since then, sorry for the ambiguity. [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1350934605' post='1845325'] http://axvault.com/2012/10/10/five-other-fender-instruments/ there's the article. Can't be bothered finding the links to the bass specific part, but it should be in there somewhere. [/quote] I did not know about this, I'll have a read of it tomorrow, I'm at work right now on a nightshift. And in the meantime I'll amend my comments to this "Fender P and J basses are way too common". I realise they're common for a reason, but I prefer something a little more unusual. Based on which I'm not sure why I play an Ibanez SR... Edited October 23, 2012 by Blackbird88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1350911953' post='1844935'] err.... you know fender invented the original right? [/quote] Well....they they/he invented the original Fender at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1350936341' post='1845363'] the heads snap off because they are a different piece of timber from the rest of the neck, scarf jointed onto the top of the neck. They do this so they can tilt the headstock back and avoid the strings jumping out of the nut or anything like that. lots of brands don't do that, because it weakens an already weak part of the neck, but i suppose its personal preference really. [/quote] The scarf jointed necks are stronger than the one piece ones. Is all of the point of a scarf joint, the grain keeps going in the right direction, its the one piece necks with angled headstocks that break off, like on Gibsons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1350944402' post='1845536'] [/quote] Don't wanna be a negative force on BC, but would it be too much asked for you to tell the rest of us what that object is? best. bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettsguitars Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1350946752' post='1845565'] The scarf jointed necks are stronger than the one piece ones. Is all of the point of a scarf joint, the grain keeps going in the right direction, its the one piece necks with angled headstocks that break off, like on Gibsons. [/quote]Yep. Milty get youz facts straight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1350949737' post='1845584'] Don't wanna be a negative force on BC, but would it be too much asked for you to tell the rest of us what that object is? best. bert [/quote] It's a strap isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 If you can actually call it a bass...the Kala U Bass. Really?? Close to 500 quid for something that you will only use to amuse your mates with once or twice and get bored of soon afterwards because you own another bass that you can actually use in a practical, conventional situation. Stupidly expensive for what it is. I hear they are releasing or have already released a 5 string model. Give me a break! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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