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44 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

"Anyone who buys a stick, gets the stick they deserve."

Is that some obscure Harry Potter reference? Lots of stick waving in that, too...

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20 minutes ago, Lfalex v1.1 said:

Is that some obscure Harry Potter reference? Lots of stick waving in that, too...

No 🙂

Think about the difference between 'getting A stick' and 'getting SOME stick'.

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1 hour ago, Lfalex v1.1 said:

I think my ideal instrument might be an SB8 (the carbon one) tuned FCGDEABF#, so eight strings, parallel 4ths.

The SB8 would be interesting, but I am not sure that is sufficiently different from a bass really. Or I guess if I was going to go that way the NS Stick would probably be more appealing.

1 hour ago, Lfalex v1.1 said:

At the moment, I'm working on ideas for an adapter plate so I can mount it on the stand from my NS5 CR EUB.

I would certainly like a stand. I am still getting the strings to a place where they are happy. And learning chords.

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Yes I remember a couple of “interesting situations with the belt hook and not tight enough belt (or forgetting to put a belt on) 😀

Although slightly unorthodox (but then that’s a Stick anyway), a stand makes perfect sense. I spent 20+ practising bass seated only to realise it’s actually much better to stand - the instrument hangs in a far more natural place. At least the Stick is relatively light and with said belt hook take the pressure off your shoulders.

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On 03/07/2019 at 22:01, Woodinblack said:

The SB8 would be interesting, but I am not sure that is sufficiently different from a bass really. Or I guess if I was going to go that way the NS Stick would probably be more appealing.

I think with the benefit of hindsight an NS Stick would have been better.  Ever seen Don Schiff's videos?  I didn't expect it to be easy though, it's just different.  In a way, I think it's more suited to a keyboard player that already has the 'both hands' thing sussed, rather than a bass player.  But it's a challenge and one that I haven't given up on yet.

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1 hour ago, TorturedSaints said:

I think with the benefit of hindsight an NS Stick would have been better.  Ever seen Don Schiff's videos?  I didn't expect it to be easy though, it's just different.

I think the NS Stick is more suited to someone coming from a guitar only world, but one think I like about the stick is that it is different, it forces you to do different things.

I have the advantage of starting life on the piano, but spending most of the time since teens on a guitar. Its still in the 'little too different' group, but I was just randomly playing it yesterday, without any concious thought of trying anything, and it was starting to make some noises that weren't too unmusical!

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On ‎05‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 13:49, Woodinblack said:

 it was starting to make some noises that weren't too unmusical!

That's when it starts to be fun!

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On 08/07/2019 at 17:29, EMG456 said:

That's when it starts to be fun!

Agreed! I spontaneously played what can only be described as a double-stop except it was across 2pairs of octaves that were 2 octaves apart.

I nearly fell over. Just as well I was using headphones, it could've been quite scary through an amp!

It probably won't happen again! 😂

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On 26/06/2019 at 10:48, EMG456 said:

The most irritating thing about the setup is the need to lift the string off the bridge saddle to adjust height. I've seen some players who have made up a little wire hook that lets you lift the strings on and off the saddle without de-tensioning them. I've never bothered but for a full setup with a radical change of strings, it might be worth your while to cobble something together.

Sorry about the lateness of this but I'm finally getting round to reading this thread as it's time I started trying to get some sort of sound out of my Megatar. One of these might be useful for lifting strings on/off the bridge: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T-Handle-Style-Exhaust-Stand-Spring-Hook-Puller-Tool-Motorcycle-Kart-Bike-RMN0/202757549712 They work well for stand and exhaust springs on bikes.

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Just joined the forum mates (is that how u say it across the Pond?) I can get away w/ saying "Jersey" in the U.S. because we're the only state that drops the "New" from our name but I have nothing to do with cows or islands just attitude. So yeah, I'm a bass player that made the switch to Stick...not that I'm any good, but it's alot more fun to play than bass once you get the hang of it. So...ASK ME ANYTHING. I'm gonna read this post from the beginning to catch up. 

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OK I'm caught up. What everyone says / + my own 2 cents (pence?). Yeah, I'm not a guitarist I'm a BASSIST and I want to play the stuff the guitarist THAT IS NOT THE LEAD GUITARIST in the band is supposed to play, but is too whizzed off because he's NOT the lead guitarist, and never learned how to be the rhytym guitarist. You know, comping, GROOVE, things like that. (When I told my band in the 80's I was buying a Stick our guitarist threatened cutting the Melody strings off...he didn't) I found out SamAshNYC had a Stick in the shop ('85) I drove like a maniac up the New Jersey Turnpike and the salesman handed it to me and said, "Good luck". I didn't even plug it in just mucked about then handed over my cash (1,200US). Those days-no internet, YouTube, Skype lessons, just Emmett Chapmans "FreeHands" and I WANT THE TONY LEVIN SOUND. But...I went to Berklee College of Music in Boston MA for 2 semesters, they weren't teaching me what I wanted (my music has "No Commercial Potential") & I wound up working in the food bizniz fulltime & a band part-time. Also I became a full-time drunk, so, not much Stick-playing (requires effort, study), but could slog my way on the bass. Got sober in '09, got another Stick (12-string) that I've tried every tuning on, but I'm back to what I started with on this one, which is Dual Bass Reciprocal. Even though the tuning seems "redundant" the low end of the melody side sounds different than the bass 5ths side, I play "crossed" and "uncrossed" when & however I feel like it, I play "across-the-board" grabbing notes where they lay to fill out chords or lines, etc.,etc.,etc. The thing is, whenever I put any effort in something on the Stick, (especially "things I can't play", but hear) I get back SO MUCH MORE. So, bass players out there, if you're hearing more than just a bassline, and you want to compose (write tunes), GET A STICK (and stick with it). Oh, one more thing for now, I don't miss the higher melody string too much.

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OH, AND ANOTHER THING...I have short stubby fingers. Never could play proper chords on guitar. (That's why I do Joni Mitchell tunings nowadays). The width of the fretboard and closeness in string spacing is a help not a hinderance on Stick. First, left hand chords in inverted 5ths are EASY for me (and with 6 strings in the bass, upper chords have lots of possibilities, and I can de-tune the 12th string, and I've never broken one. Lots of guys use the High Bass 4th tuning). Also, because the right hand engages the fretboard from above, I CAN play chords on the melody side. So, I'm always telling Emmett on Stickist.com that he invented THE COOLEST INSTRUMENT IN THE WORLD. Now realize also Emmett was a jazz guitarist coming up with a new playing method of fingers on strings with both hands perpendicular to the fretboard, he just happened to also build an instrument with a REALLY COOL BASS SOUND.

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