patch006 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Hi all I have a rh450 with a single spekon output on it, I have two cabs that both have single inputs so can't connect them in daisy. Is there a adaptor out there or a cable that can sort this lil dilema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Find OBBM on here as he is a cable Guru & manufacturer Link: [url="http://www.bassic-bits.co.uk/"]http://www.bassic-bits.co.uk/[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plankspanker Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Making your own cables is easy and cheaper. Good quality cable and Neutrik connectors are easily available online or in stores like Maplin. Another advantage is that you can make them exactly the right length for your particular gear - much neater and safer as you are less likely to trip over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) [quote name='plankspanker' post='1181501' date='Mar 29 2011, 09:50 PM']Making your own cables is easy and cheaper. Good quality cable and Neutrik connectors are easily available online or in stores like Maplin. Another advantage is that you can make them exactly the right length for your particular gear - much neater and safer as you are less likely to trip over them.[/quote] As many on here will tell you OBBM's prices are often cheaper than buying all the bits and his cable is better than anything I could find. He will make whatever you want whatever length you want. A massive thumbs up and you only need to see how many people have him in their sigs to see who agree top fella IME Edited March 31, 2011 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) I'm thinking of getting a TC amp head and this concerned me too. I did a bit of research and came up with this. Hope it's what you're after [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnakespeakonadapter.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnakespeakonadapter.htm[/url] Edit: although basic-bits looks cheaper. Edited March 30, 2011 by gjones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Or mod your cabs to add an extra socket in parallel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 OBBM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patch006 Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 Thanks all, I have emailed OBBM gjones that is exactly what I need, i will give you a shout when I find out how much OBBM can make one for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 An OBBM one will be better and cheaper im sure, The one in the link will still need two speakon-speakon cables too which you may already have but others working out the cost may not? Also its more joints in the line that you dont need. When people say make your own check out the cost of the highest quality cable obbm uses and how much 2 female and one male speakon costs from Maplins (Or 3 males if your doing a proper job without the need for link cables). I had a cable with fake speakons on too, It melted at the first gig with the 600watt shuttle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 To be fair to the Thomann adapter, it is using the Neutrik NTX series connectors, which are Neutrik's top of the range, metal housing, touring grade connectors which come at a premium. While very sexy, it's probably overkill, as you're unlikely to break a regular NL series Speakon connector in day to day bass amp world. As to pricing - I'd never buy anything from Maplin unless I was desperate - v expensive. CPC are much better, though a trade account with VDC Trading is the business - I can buy the parts for an equivalent cable for half OBBM's cost - but of course a trade account isn't open to all... Back to the problem at hand, though: My preferred solution would be, if possible, to adapt either/both speakers to give a second Speakon socket. A tidy & future proof solution. Next best would be to have a Y lead of the right dimensions to meet my connectivity needs. Might have to compromise on the cable diameter to fit into the Speakon, but then 6mm cable was always overkill for these short runs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Bit of a dissapointment that the RH450 only has one output really IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1183391' date='Mar 31 2011, 02:56 PM']Bit of a dissapointment that the RH450 only has one output really IMO [/quote] To be fair the corporate giants TC, the space on the rear panel is packed with features already, and they provide 2 sockets on all their cabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 [quote name='lojo' post='1183742' date='Mar 31 2011, 07:25 PM']To be fair the corporate giants TC, the space on the rear panel is packed with features already, and they provide 2 sockets on all their cabs[/quote] Another gold star for Genz Benz then as we can see not everyone wants to use all combinations of TC's cabs all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1184157' date='Apr 1 2011, 12:39 AM']Another gold star for Genz Benz then as we can see not everyone wants to use all combinations of TC's cabs all the time.[/quote] I think you'll find my Ampeg has 9 speaker outputs therefore getting the gold star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Teachers Pet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Lol, the TC amps are packed at the back...agreed. Why a cab would have one input is more annoying if you ask me. Yep OBBM is your man:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 You can turn two speakon cables into one Y speakon in about 10 minutes, armed with only a screwdriver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patch006 Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Its all your fault Alex, with only one blooming speakon input on my barefaced compact!! All sorted, Dave has got some Y leads done in stock for a very reasonale price. Thanks for all the info guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='patch006' post='1184299' date='Apr 1 2011, 09:36 AM']Its all your fault Alex, with only one blooming speakon input on my barefaced compact!! [/quote] Well we do offer optional second speakon inputs when people order second cabs! I should point out that we were selling cabs before TC and EA launched heads with single speakon outs, so I totally blame them. Electrically a Y-cable will work perfectly, and it'll probably reduce the chance of other people liberating your speaker lead. What cab are you using with the Compact? I hope it can keep up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I can sort of understand the space problem on the RH450, but why on earth would speaker manufacturers not fit two sockets as standard, Total extra cost would (I'm guessing) be less than a tenner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='Count Bassy' post='1184783' date='Apr 1 2011, 02:32 PM']I can sort of understand the space problem on the RH450, but why on earth would speaker manufacturers not fit two sockets as standard, Total extra cost would (I'm guessing) be less than a tenner.[/quote] Looking at the rear of a TC Classic it even has a blanking plug where the second speakon could go, Pah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='Count Bassy' post='1184783' date='Apr 1 2011, 02:32 PM']I can sort of understand the space problem on the RH450, but why on earth would speaker manufacturers not fit two sockets as standard, Total extra cost would (I'm guessing) be less than a tenner.[/quote] We chose not to discourage daisychaining unsuitable cabs with ours. We can't stop bad practices but at least we can make it more difficult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='alexclaber' post='1184894' date='Apr 1 2011, 03:28 PM']We chose not to discourage daisychaining unsuitable cabs with ours. We can't stop bad practices but at least we can make it more difficult![/quote] If the wiring in a Amp from the first connector to the 2nd is effectively daisy chaining what is the difference, or is it to do with the length of the cables? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='lojo' post='1184984' date='Apr 1 2011, 04:52 PM']If the wiring in a Amp from the first connector to the 2nd is effectively daisy chaining what is the difference, or is it to do with the length of the cables?[/quote] I noticed that if you only have one speakon socket on a cab then people who are planning to use it with another cab ask why and at that point you then know they're planning to use it with another cab. As our cabs can handle far more power than most then it's rather a waste to add a second non-Barefaced cab when you could just throw more power at the Barefaced cab, because once you've got a second less potent cab in parallel then you're restricting how hard you can push the Barefaced. Plus, adding a second cab that isn't designed to work together can cause rather random performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 [quote name='alexclaber' post='1185011' date='Apr 1 2011, 05:24 PM']I noticed that if you only have one speakon socket on a cab then people who are planning to use it with another cab ask why and at that point you then know they're planning to use it with another cab. As our cabs can handle far more power than most then it's rather a waste to add a second non-Barefaced cab when you could just throw more power at the Barefaced cab, because once you've got a second less potent cab in parallel then you're restricting how hard you can push the Barefaced. Plus, adding a second cab that isn't designed to work together can cause rather random performance.[/quote] BTW, do you still have the barefaced cabs doing the rounds, Id be keen to try one with my new terror, I think I am going to pass on my TC cabs and go for a 1 cab solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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