attackbass Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hi, I'm trying to find a way to boost my fender jazz 75 reissue bass so that it matches my active stingray in live situations. My current rig EBS Multicomp>redonionsolutions loop and tuner mute with EHX BASS SYNTH> Sansamp Pbddi> Ampeg SVT 3 Pro > 4X10 and 1X15 Ampeg Cabs I have looked at the Sadowsky and Aguilar box preamps which have volume treble and bass controls- which seem to make the passive bass more 'active'. Would just a boost pedal do the Job? Or does it a matter of eq as well? Would it sound ok running a preamp for a passive bass infron of the sansamp pre amp and ampeg head? I know the Aguilar is basically an outboard version of the preamps they put in basses.. I would prob run the preamp in a loop so then i could switch the loop off when going to the stringray.. Anyone got any suggestions. The more cost affective achieving the best tone possible would be appreciated!! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_u_y_* Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 EBS MultiBass II preamp DI box. Two seperate channels that can be run separately or together. Each channel has it's own gain setting. [url="http://www.ebs.bass.se/2007/microbass.htm"]http://www.ebs.bass.se/2007/microbass.htm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) [quote name='attackbass' post='124301' date='Jan 21 2008, 01:00 AM']Would just a boost pedal do the Job? Or does it a matter of eq as well?[/quote] i guess that depends if you want the passive to sound more active or just louder... i use an mxr mc401 as a line booster and i'm more than pleased with it...clean, noise-free volume boost. Edited January 21, 2008 by ahpook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nimrod Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 [quote name='s_u_y_*' post='124326' date='Jan 21 2008, 03:32 AM']EBS MultiBass II preamp DI box. Two seperate channels that can be run separately or together. Each channel has it's own gain setting. [url="http://www.ebs.bass.se/2007/microbass.htm"]http://www.ebs.bass.se/2007/microbass.htm[/url][/quote] Job done, by the sound of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I run my USA P basses through the Sadowsky pre/DI pedal and can't recommend them enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 [quote name='s_u_y_*' post='124326' date='Jan 21 2008, 03:32 AM']EBS MultiBass II preamp DI box. Two seperate channels that can be run separately or together. Each channel has it's own gain setting. [url="http://www.ebs.bass.se/2007/microbass.htm"]http://www.ebs.bass.se/2007/microbass.htm[/url][/quote] +1. Has been described as the swiss army knife of bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attackbass Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 I have heard many good things about the sadowsky. does putting that many different eqs affect the tone in a bad way. eg it would be going through a ebs compressor, sadowsky pre then a sansamp then my ampeg svt 3 pro. Would that make the tone diluted or weak? I've heard they tighten up the tone of your bass and make it cut through more. I actually this evening compared both basses recording through my ebs, sansamp into pro tools. There wasn't a great differance in level but musicmans wave were more blocky and fuller to look at on the screen and the fender passive bass waves seemed to tapper off. Someone has also suggested an ART PM tube preamp. Any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Ditch the Sansamp - the EBS Microbass II is all you need. I knows it is not cheap but then the best gear never is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneKing Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Another option if you want a passive bass with an increased signal is Villex Pickups and tone boosters. Microbass II are great too. My Villex modified Bob Glaub competes with all my active basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 A cheaper solution would be to turn your Stingray down. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidbass Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 [quote name='alexclaber' post='125544' date='Jan 22 2008, 04:28 PM']A cheaper solution would be to turn your Stingray down. Alex[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attackbass Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 [quote name='acidbass' post='125575' date='Jan 22 2008, 05:30 PM'][/quote] The volume between the two isn't that different cos i have quarter pounders in the jazz.. its just the stingray has the active eq on it which makes it louder when u boost the bass or treble. I think i might just plug in and let the sound guy worry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 When you boost the tone controls you have to turn down the volume to compensate. I dont think any actives have volume compensation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjazz Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 A Sadowsky preamp is adequate only if you like its sound. I love them but I think they create an "instant Marcus Miller" sound at least if you use them with a Jazz Bass... An MXR Bass DI+ would be better fitting if you only look for a booster but want to have something more: a preamp and a distortion. I don't think you should use a sansamp with any other preamp but haven't tried yet... If you look for a cheap solution then just get a booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 [quote name='attackbass' post='126018' date='Jan 23 2008, 12:11 PM']The volume between the two isn't that different cos i have quarter pounders in the jazz.. its just the stingray has the active eq on it which makes it louder when u boost the bass or treble. I think i might just plug in and let the sound guy worry... [/quote] If it's making that much of a difference to loudness then you're probably EQing too heavily. If that's definitely the sound you want, then simply pluck less hard when you have the EQ boosted. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I use a MXR Micro amp. Straight forward no fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Actually, seeing your signal chain, why don't you set one of your Sansamp programs to compensate? You can use it as a clean boost, if you have all the settings at 12 o cclock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attackbass Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 [quote name='Muppet' post='127595' date='Jan 25 2008, 10:16 AM']Actually, seeing your signal chain, why don't you set one of your Sansamp programs to compensate? You can use it as a clean boost, if you have all the settings at 12 o cclock.[/quote] I can't set the sansamp at 12 on all the controls because it's the sansamp which is getting part of my tone by driving the ampeg head. playing softly aint an option really... for this band it's rock and it's all about digging in.. if it was one of my other more pop/singersongwer session thing then I'd prob take you up on your advice Im tempted to just stick with a 4 string for a tour coming up for the entire set.. my singer spoke to me and basically said I was good enough a player to make the songs work on a four string. I do love my musicman 5 tho. I'll try easing off the active eq on the musicman next week in rehearsals and see what differance it makes.. I've tried recording into pro tools through all my gear and compared waveforms and the musicman is only sligtly louder. So maybe it's fine and im just paranoid. i might get hold of a booster off a mate and test it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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