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[sub]Not a problem with the understanding. I was referring to the practicality and hence what the reality of gigging is like. It's a tradeoff. Need a tweeter in your cab? Oh dear. Dispersion from your cab isn't going to help you much.[/sub]

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1343824501' post='1755780'] Said thinking obviously falls into the wishful category. [/quote] Not really. There's a problem in translating scientific ideals into the reality of gigging. The two aren't mutually compatable.

I'd love to know what venues you guys are playing. Drumkit and available space normally dictates where you are going. Yes, place your amp in the ideal space but that will probably fck up the stage plan for everybody else. OK, soundcheck. Sounds great. Now the previously empty room fills with people. What happens? Yes, your sound completely changes. Do you guys actually leave your bedrooms?

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343821262' post='1755691'] If none of the punters give a sh1t then why bother playing gigs? Music is nothing without tone, the two are inextricably linked. The reaction a band will receive is dependent on what they sound like (and look like because we're visual creatures too). The sound of band is a combination of what they're playing, how they're playing together, what everyone's tones are like, how they interact and so on and so forth. A band that sounds better SOUNDS BETTER! If someone comes away from a gig saying "that band sounded amazing" aren't they most likely to be talking about how good the music sounded? And isn't one component of the music sounding good being the mix of the instruments sounding good wherever that punter was standing? [/quote] Because your opinion of what is sounding good is based on musically trained ears. How many times have you been to a gig and thought "that was bleedin' awful", "the sound guy doesn't know what the hell he is doing", only for people around you to be singing the band's praises? You've stated above, music nowadays is mostly about business, making money... rightly or wrongly, the quality of the tone and the musicianship of the players has fallen down the order of importance. Remember that playing music is not always for enjoyment but sometimes for paying the bills. You bother to play gigs to pay the bills. Some play for enjoyment. And some people just ride the wave as it's the latest fad they are going through. Talk about your function gigs, your wedding gigs - these are the bread and butter gig of every player who makes a living out of music. Itsonly the cream of the crop players who can play top flight gigs all year round. Even those sessioning in top flight bands will have a function band to keep the money rolling in. Now, these bread and butter gigs, are generally played to people who are looking at having a nights of entertainment, where the sound is to an acceptable level (and that includes tone of the instruments, mix of the band etc) and played to a certain level of competance. 99 times out of a 100, a punter won't know what gear you are playing through, it's value or how incredibly great sounding it is. The truth is, they simply don't know... or care for that matter. In fact, they are more likely to be more impressed by your light show. In my experience, as long as they can hear the vocals, rightly or wrongly, the rest of it is of little importance. Any player who works like this, must recognise this to be the case. Yes, I have what I consider to be nice gear but that would seem to be for my own entertainment rather than the people who are listening to the band it would seem - because experience has told me that most people can't actually tell the difference. Us as bassplayers maybe... but to the greater community out there, I would say absolutely no way. Hell, people can't even tell the difference between a bass and guitar most of the time.... and here we are talking about cabs? It's the same as if somebody comes up to me and says that I'm the best bass player they've ever heard, they are either deluded or know nothing about the bass players that exist in the world. Where their statement may be factually correct, it's hardly the grounds to go and boost my ego and go off running to the nearest gear manufacturer asking for an enwhoresement.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343820581' post='1755667'] Exactly! Get the tone right and then do whatever you can to not lose that tone once the complexities of the real world encroach. [/quote] So it can reach the ears of the punters that giveth not a sh1t! And if the punters give not a sh1t, then it really doesn't matter if the sound is uniform around the world/room/whatever. This is coming from real world experience folks. You saw it all here first!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1343818154' post='1755588'] Those only figure in the low end which don't figure into dispersion issues. [/quote] You missed the tongue in cheek element.

Yawn. Wot? No talk of Helmholtz resonators?

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1343613961' post='1752743'] I have a framed rejection letter from EMI, which is my most treasured possession. [/quote] That reminds me... A colleague of mine is a big time physicist/astrologer type and despite knowing that he didn't fulfill the requirements of being an astronaut (he's not a US citizen for starters), he wanted a rejection letter from NASA to frame and put up on the wall. They let him down. A printed out email just doesn't have the same impact.

I've read some daft things on basschat.

The funny thing is, 99.9 % of the people on here wouldn't have thought anything about various speakers, designs, layouts whatever unless somebody else had planted that idea in their head. Seriously, how many people on here have gone to a gig and gone, yup, that bass players sound is really letting him down due to his use of XYZ speaker cab?

Update your sig then

I love the fact there is always pages of this stuff on Basschat. If you spent more time playing with the gear that you have got, you'd find it easier to work round any short coming that you may or may not have in your gear.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1343749468' post='1754600'] I contacted the UK distributor who say that there is only a one year warranty on the amp (despite the EBS website saying two), and that as it was bought as "New old stock" the warranty would not be valid anyway (which again is not what EBS told me when I registered the amp after buying it but there you go....). The figures they quoted me for repairing the amp are far more than I can afford to pay (£75 per hour + parts + VAT + courier both ways), and would end up costing more than the poxy thing cost in the first place. [/quote] Ouch - I would certainly drop EBS an email, this is not good a advertisement for them. New Old Stock is as good as New in terms of lifespan before giving you any issues.

#ARTISTS_BULLSHIT_ALERT [b]Artist's Statement[/b] "My last twenty five years have been spent as a fine art painter, drawer, and sculptor. What I have learned from 20th Century master artists, Giacometti, Cezanne, Matisse, Johns, and others, is an economy of technique, doing what is necessary to get the job done, nothing more, nothing less. The work of these great artists is about expression above all, and all gratuitous craft is rigorously paired away. Most fine guitar making is obsessive about craft perfection. Mine is not. I strive to build instruments that sound exceptional, play beautifully, and are extremely interesting to look at. The instruments aren't gratuitously tidy or perfectionistic or consistent. I tear them apart and rebuild them until I find them exciting. Perfect guitars are great, but there are plenty of those. I'm searching for something more raw, more direct." - Phil Sylvester

Nice vid. Some interesting stuff there.

[quote name='bassmanady' timestamp='1341511647' post='1720370'] Yamaha BB NE2 LTD in Pewter finish,had this a couple of months,well impressed [/quote] One of my fave basses and in a killer finish too! That preamp is something else. In other news, I have just got my mits on an RBX375... prime candidate for pimping!

Lou Short. That household name.

[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1343659154' post='1753238'] I have one endorsee. He gets special rates and plays a lot of professional gigs with biggish names. I cant say as it has done the brand any good for definate, although it surely hasn't done any harm. The guy has a LOT of basses, jaydee, Pangborn, fender, Alembic etc and I would certainly not expect him to never use these other fine instruments for fear of pissing me off. We are now pretty good mates I hope. He does use mine exclusively as far as I can see, but that's because they are the best not because of any obligatory contract, and he owns around 5 or 6 of my basses, some of which were very early instruments. The way I see it is as long as he is willing to associate himself with my name and keeps coming back for more then I am more than willing to give him the best deal I can. He has had 2 for 1 deals and I knock a couple of hundred quid off every time. I would never give a bass away for free unless it was a world renowned player and even then not many players would expect something for nothing. Lets face it, the good players can afford to pay for them anyway. [/quote] Yet no name mentioned?

[quote name='david_l_perry' timestamp='1343296665' post='1748383'] Stacking 4 of the tilt back cabs would result in the top cab pretty much pointing at the sky, and you would need to employ a permanent cab stack support roadie..... Yes, way too much of tilt back No, the main idea was to suit the majority of people using a pair of 1x12's. Dave [/quote] 2 x (2x12)s then! - just looking at the spec. Surprinsingly light given whats in there and the size of them. Weights about the same as one of my 2x10 cabs.

Dave - can you stack 4 1x12s vertical in safety or do they lean back too much?

Wouldn't mind a pair of 2x12s... or 4 1x12s...

Look superb. You should be well proud of your work. Love walnut... Mmm...

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1343228887' post='1747414'] it's not even white! [/quote] Looks pink to me. Pah. Lame.

Chic - Everybody Dance

How did we miss this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTy-kyFZQ-g