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[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1464377742' post='3059069'] As long as the speakers aren't blue. That's seems to be a dark, woolly colour ;-) [/quote] ;-) If you are really lucky they may turn more a shade of orange... and emit magic smoke.

... As the title says, just wondering when people say they let the PA do the work, what is the PA doing the work?

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1464372222' post='3059019'] Market it right and they will buy in to the idea. [/quote] Seemed to work for Markbass - modelling themselves on Tonka trucks!

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1464370223' post='3058990'] Oh yes, I do believe the red paint makes a difference to certain freq's. A lot of R&D went in to getting the shade just right...apparently. [/quote] I can well believe it!

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1464365697' post='3058932'] It's quite amazing how you can say one thing on the internet and it can be misinterpreted in so many fascinating ways! [/quote] I know exactly what you mean. I'm accused of saying things I haven't even said!

The red paint? :-p

I reckon they'd spark more interest if they changed the word "rated" for "hated"

5 Removing posts also count.

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1464354622' post='3058781'] There are major claims on the BF website that had me believing this was going to be the last cab i ever needed. Well it wasn't. How could it, they dont know what i like. If thats a neutral, almost flat cab then its not for me. I have no regrets about buying it. Im glad i got to try these great cabs, but its also taught me a valuable lesson. [/quote] But as long as you know that you are wrong, we are all friends.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1464353263' post='3058767'] To be fair, I can see where you are coming from with some of those comments. There is certainly a degree of sycophantism running through the amps and cabs area of this site. Funnily enough it is nowhere near as pronounced with amps (apart from the Class D vs "Heft" argument) or with bass guitars. On the other side though, are those of us who have used dozens of different amps, cabs and basses and have arrived at their current set-up based on what they like the sound of. Yes, the weight of my rig is a factor, but it is not the only factor. I have used heavy cabs that I like, and lightweight cabs that I don't like so much. Same goes for amp heads. Some rigs just don't work in certain situations or in certain bands. There are so many variables... Nowt wrong with a bit of healthy argument sometimes... [/quote] And let's not forgets, whilst some cabs may not be perfect, they are "good enough"

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1464356323' post='3058800'] 3 [/quote] 4

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1464352439' post='3058752'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Aww I love a bit of fishing.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2 bites in one go.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]:-p[/font][/color] [/quote] Unlucky - you must have let one get away.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1464350554' post='3058719'] I don't think I've ever really paid much attention to placement/ports/tuning. I just put the cab down where the sound man wants it, and go from there. If I'm borrowing a cab, I have no say. I don't really think much attention should be paid, apart from usual common sense. I doubt the hundreds of bands I see live really care...they just enjoy the music. The PA does most of the work anyway. [/quote] This is where the divide comes. Those that use cabs for strictly monitoring. And those that use it for both monitoring and being heard front of house. In reality, most people won't care as long as a cab is light. Others mistake something to be a great sounding cab based on the fact they can lift it easily. Some think a great sounding cab is something that they can hear on stage regardless of what it sounds like front of house. An expensive cab equals a great sounding cab, naturally :-p

[quote name='Musashimonkey' timestamp='1464350349' post='3058714'] Fair enough. I know what you mean. It is a shame that manufacturers of cabs and amps tend to use different metrics and standards for reporting data. I wish a standard approach could be used for a more accurate comparison on paper; then of course backed up by personal experience as things tend to translate differently in the real world. [/quote] Funny how some seem to think I have no experience of these cabs in the real world. I like light cabs too. If they sound right.

[quote name='Musashimonkey' timestamp='1464349649' post='3058705'] Have you got any data on the response curves or tuning? [/quote] Why would I? A certain cab manufacturer tells me they are wholly unreliable anyway.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1464348800' post='3058686'] What would be the cause then, in your opinion? I'm genuinely interested. There is always a cause for a subjectively unpleasant tone, unless it can be put down to the room itself. [/quote] Response curves, tuning, blindly following others...

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1464348555' post='3058679'] You must be very proud. [/quote] Oh yes. Putting forward a point of view that goes against the grain and being jumped on for it. Very proud.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1464346088' post='3058637'] Other brands of cab are available, apparently. [/quote] Vanderklay, apparently.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1464345752' post='3058632'] Cool. Leave it to those of us that can cope with such things then [/quote] I do.

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1464347884' post='3058664'] Fixed again... [/quote] I don't think you understand what you are saying. I'm not the one being burnt. I dont used Barefaced cabs. As a consequence, I don't have to look into my amps, cables, basses, setups, technique or the alignment of the Earth if I was to hear a tone I don't like coming from a cab...

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1464346233' post='3058638'] Fixed it for you... [/quote] To be fair, that's not fixing, that's just changing my words to contradict the history of what has been said on this very forum. In other news, black is now white.

Aww I love a bit of fishing. 3 bites in one go. :-p

Tony Levin, Peter Gabriel Nathan East, Eric Clapton... We can see where this one is going...

Do other artists featuring on the front of the mag also have other band members appearing with them? I honestly don't know - it's been years since I've bought bass comics.

I don't know... But putting a pic of Dave with Jools and then referring to him as "Jools Holland's bass player" isn't really cementing the fact that he's a name player in his own right.