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Edwyn Collins lastest LP. [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003XF10EO/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1PDMHGP5KC3WVER87JCJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294"]Losing Sleep[/url]. Album of the year without a doubt.

He must get the one thats named as the Victor Wooten model for free surely. Either that or they pay him a lot to use his name.

[quote name='Delberthot' post='1000515' date='Oct 25 2010, 09:27 PM']stringbusters do individual rotos[/quote] Rotosound [i]Swing Bass [/i]series are the only Rotos they sell. (thats a shame as its no good for me anyway i use flatwounds.)

[quote name='Chris2112' post='999238' date='Oct 24 2010, 08:03 PM']If you can get away with playing like that, then great! If you find you start to struggle then maybe adopting a two finger "classic" plucking style would be better. I doubt you'll be able to knock out 16th note finger funk with that style but it all depends on what you're playing.[/quote] James Jamerson, the famous Motown bassist who played on more hits that any other bass player in the world used only a single finger. He managed to get the sixteenth notes by useing the nail side of his finger as well when things speeded up.

[quote name='Johnston' post='999163' date='Oct 24 2010, 07:18 PM']I tried playing the way you do a few weeks ago. Thought it might take the pressure of some of my ailing joints. But just couldn't get my hand into into a comfy position.[/quote] dont know if this will help, but when i play thumbstyle i use the bottom tug bar. After all its what it was put there for.

If you can play ok like that then id stay with it. Never really been one for convention myself. I too play with a pick, which is getting rare these days.

I can only tell you what everyone else is gonna say. You have to try them out side by side. Are you aware of any good guitar shops anywhere near your town? Its a shame you couldn't have got down to the bass day in Manchester, you could have tried them to your hearts content. Really thats the nub of it, you need to try them out. I have both, and both are different guitars, with the Jazz physically different only with a slightly thinner neck for smaller hands. I bought a new cheap Westfield P bass and it turned out to be a pretty decent bass for the price. But after trying out a Jazz a few weeks later i realized that the thinner neck might help my smaller hands get around the fretboard. So i thought that id take a look around this time and learn what was the best for the price. After good month of asking questions on this forum I plumped for a Squier Classic Vibe Jazz, and am still happy about how good it is. You can get a reasonable emulation of a P bass with a Jazz by using the bridge pickup and playing nearer to the bridge, but at the end of the day a realm P sounds a little, well more P bass like, beefier or punchier or something. So if you cant afford both then your gonna have to choose, which means if at all possible you need to sit down and play both side by side through the same amp. So you gonna have to find a shop to do that in. Shouldn't be too much trouble really. But if theres anyone could help you out with a go of theres that'd be a good prelude to sitting in a shop and choosing. You really need an hour or two to decide.

i wouldnt even try anything with more than four strings if you are are starting out, no matter how long you have played guitar. Give yourself a chance. Read my signature below for Billy Sheehan's thoughts on bass guitars with more than four strings. ps: dont forget to give the Squier Classic Vibe series a try out.

if its only a few short loops up as a link or something to share between forum members then i personally cant see any problems.

I think thay may have been made in China originally beofre being moved to Indonesia. The CV range however is still being made in China, and very good quality it is too. If the jungle drums are to be belived, Fender has noticed a significant drop in the yearly sales of Mexican made Fenders and an increase in sales of the quality Chinese made Squires, especially the Classic Vibe range. This is why a price hike happened this autumn. Even the box shifter like GAK that sell many of them and negotiate a good deal, has to increase its price by £25. Some have put the price up a good deal more. Whether this sales difference is in the USA, or Europe or worldwide I dont know. Certainly I have heard many people who have played both say that the CV squier is as good as if not better than the mex.

[quote name='silddx' post='997675' date='Oct 23 2010, 12:43 AM']That's very sad indeed. I heard Ari Up died yesterday too. [/quote] Damn thats a shock, she was only a year older than me. Didnt even know she was ill. I had the pleasure of seeing the slits at least a couple of times. I saw them once in 1979 at a great gig that included The slits, Don Cherry, and Prince Hammer, tripple band bill. A fantastic gig. Punk, Jazz and Reggae all on one night. That was something typical of the Slits though. I saw them again at The Electric Ballroom with The Au Pairs and The Pop Group. I probably saw them other times. I saw so many bands over 4 or 5 years i simply cant recall them all. It goes without saying there is some great bass on the Slits stuff, the album '[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_(The_Slits_album)"]Cut'[/url] is a good example.

[quote name='charic' post='994469' date='Oct 20 2010, 09:29 AM'] Sorry I don't follow...[/quote] Hmm.? that was a bit of a cryptic one eh ? maybe it is something to do with this [url="http://www.punk77.co.uk/groups/stranglersandthefinchleyboys.htm"]Finchley Boys [/url] RE: the rig that JJ burnell used in the early days. Here is a direct quote from Hugh in the book [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stranglers-Song-Hugh-Cornwell/dp/1860743625/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1287678007&sr=8-2"]The Stranglers, song by song[/url]. [quote]Jim Dury (interviewer) "Johns rough bass sound seemed to tail off in later years. Why did that happen?" Hugh Cornwell: "The reason that it occured in the first place was that John has a speaker cabinet about the size of a door. With about 16 ten inch speakers in it, which are a bit small to be taking bass. They all blew one after the other. So he ended up with a huge cabinet with blown speakers, and the sound got dirtier and dirtier, and became a feature of the band. Thats why its mixed so high on the record. Martin Rushent (Producer) said that people liked the sound of the bass."[/quote]

Ah the Garage. Mans best friend. Im chopping up and welding an old propane bottle to turn into a wood burner to heat mine, so i can retire there even in bleakest midwinter.

i'll have a gander if the book is still about. Please add me to the list.

Cheers i will that a try.

Never a fan of prog either, though Mr Wakeman is a witty bloke and seems a decent type of fellow. I may take a stroll to the bottom of my own road tonite and see if I can spot anyone worth watching. I remember clearly the TV advert for the 'Going for the one' album. (a rare thing in those days unless your album was on K-Tel) Very impresive. Almost went out and bought the album just to see what all the fuss was about.

Well what I mean is the old one fret per finger thing, that you constantly hear on just about every tutorial ive ever seen or read. The problem is i just have small hands. As my jamming pal says "you have the hands of a 13 year old girl. When you gonna give them back!" Oh how I laugh every time he quippeth. Untill now I have often counted myself lucky, as i can often get my hands into gaps or places on a vehicle that make it a lot easier to wield a spanner or similar tool, often saving much time and bother (Yes I was a machanic in a former exsistance)

I am having great trouble, indeed i find it impossible to stretch four frets at the bottom end, or even the top end on the E and A strings. There are supposedly excercizes that can be done. Has anyone had any actual sucess with any of them? If so, where can i find details? Its not that i have too much trouble playing. But if i want to keep my thum as an anchor on the back of the neck then i have to slide my hand a little.

Did anyone have a try of the pedal at the show last week, or even better does anyone use one regularly? Was wondering what they are like? Always someone trying something out every time i went past, so i got no chance to try. [attachment=61764:valvedrive.jpg]

You saw her "on X Factor". Whats X Factor? some kind of porn show?

[quote name='steve-soar' post='992789' date='Oct 18 2010, 09:33 PM']1977. [/quote] Dunno if this is what you meant, but actually that was a typo in my first post i did mean 1977 not '76. I do recall quite clearly though the year before. That very long very hot summer of 1976, where the sun shone from May to September I camped out in tents or just sleeping in the open down the fields in sleeping bags around a camp fire with groups of friends practically every day of the summer holidays that year. For all you lucky youngsters who were not around then, heres a link about it: [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/understanding/1976_drought.shtml"]The long hot summer of 1976 in the UK[/url] As for the thickness of the old style Gibson Heavy picks i think the gauge was approx 1.18mm

I dont suppose it could be [b]Ash [/b]could it? Any timber experts ot there willing to take a gander and a guess? [attachment=61720:STA71193_resized.jpg]

[quote name='lojo' post='992664' date='Oct 18 2010, 07:48 PM']sorry nothing to add, cept i enjoyed the Purple Helmets also, no nonsense covers with JJ on bass I got nice n sleazy in the set of 2 bands i played with last year, but both dropped it after a few gigs, seems not as well known as I thought it was Was fun to play a few times though[/quote] Why not try 'Walk on by' as a fun alternative?

JJ Burnell was the first bass player whom i ever actually [i]noticed[/i] on a record, that record was of course [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaches_(The_Stranglers_song)"]Peaches[/url] i first heard it in the summer of '77 whilst i was digging the garden of my mates Gran on a scorching hot afternoon.(yes it was so pivotal I remember all the details) Needless to say i actually bought it. Untill then my only purchases had been 2 T Rex singles (45p from WH Smiths), Ride a White Swan, Sladest and one of those Top of the Pops albums you used to get. So this was obviously something different. That dirty heavy bas sound attracted me straight away. Peaches and its B side [i]Go Buddy Go[/i], were the back of the bus singalongs of that summer. It was a double A side (remember the concept of Sides!?) and the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub_rock"]Pub Rocky [/url] sounding flip side of 'Go Buddy Go' was often played on the radio in the daytime, where the risque double entendré ridden Peaches would not have got a look in. So a clever bit of marketting there from UA. No. [i]Radio 1[/i] were not that daring in the daytime back then. The Stranglers made a clean version for radio There has been lots of discussion over the years as to how John gets (got) his sound. I am talking over the first 3 albums here. ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattus_Norvegicus_(album)"]Rattus Norvegicus [/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%20No_More_Heroes_(album)"] No more Heros - [/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%20Black_and_White_(The_Stranglers_album)"] - Black & White [/url], )After that he changed rigs and was never the same. We all know of course he used a Precision Fender with a pick and usually a hard attack. Without and effects and with his amp settings plenty of bass and treble, not too much midrange. The pick was a [i][url="http://www.dv247.com/guitars/gibson-heavy-wedge-pick--51830"]Gibson Heavy [/url][/i]used near the bridge. (funnily enough i bought one last week, without realizing the significance. I found it a tad wide though. I prefer a [url="http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/0438903/details.html"]Dunlop Tortex[size=5]*[/size] 1.14mm [/url]) Amps were a Hi-Watt 200 watt and 8 x 10 Hi-Watt guitar cab ,("the size of a door") which of course gradualy blew its cones one at a time. Later in years he spent a lot of time trying to re create that dirty bass sound. But of course, in the early days he played with whatever he could get his hands on, sadly success bought him out of his own sound through upgrading to a 'proper bass rig' According to Hugh Cornwell he then spent years trying to get back to that original sound. Anyone with any more info on this please chip in. [size=5]*[/size]Tortex: [i]Tortex is a brand created by Jim Dunlop, but tortex picks are made out of a plastic called delrin that was created by DuPont. Dunlop's Tortex and Delrex picks are both made of delrin, but have different surface coatings. It has been influential in replacing tortoiseshell guitar picks after an international ban was placed on the trade of tortoiseshell in the late 1970s. Tortex is registered trademark of Dunlop Manufacturing, Inc. Tortex picks are used by many guitar players. Tortex is one of the most popular materials for guitar picks[citation needed]. It imitates the texture of a tortoise shell. It has a grippy feel, so players don't drop the pick while playing.[/i]

looks fine work to me. Do you have any instructions to try and make my own (or is it secret squirrel ?)