skychaserhigh

I love the Ashdown guys , top people to deal with.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1468431095' post='3090901'] Calling the Barefaced fan club..... [/quote] Please don't.....

Black Sabbath

Went to see Rainbow last night in Birmingham and they were superb. Blackmore sounded as good as ever , did a two hour set of classics and even looked like he enjoyed himself !

Any reason you didn't go for the 610 as it would be cheaper and easier to move around maybe ?

Just don't expect one 12 inch speaker to be able to do what four 10 inch speakers can do.

If it sounds good then it is good. Don't worry about 'rules' , do what works for you.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1465551525' post='3069132'] So Ampeg, Bergantino, Markbass et al are at fault for taking advantage of demand and producing 4X10s themselves, then? No mention made of their products - all of which apparently have some kind of unique selling point, if you read their advertising literature. If you know about the low pass thing then it's hardly full-circle, as the BF 410 isn't the same as any other 410, is it? So why persist? If you don't like 410s don't buy one, and if you don't like Barefaced cabs, don't buy one. Exactly what is it about Barefaced as a company that provokes this kind of criticism when their competitors quietly do their thing (and not as well, imho) without comment on this forum? I don't get it. [/quote] I have no problem at all with 410 cabs , I have used many of them for years and always liked them. I have not slagged Barefaced off or said their products are no good etc , I just made the point about the 410 shape which was they said was wrong for several reasons. I myself have never found a 410 difficult to transport and couldn't understand why others had a problem with them. The marketing telling us that we don't need 410 cabs and then producing one doesn't really sit too well with me , that's all. Now stop being so bloody defensive about Barefaced and accusing other people of slagging them off , as by doing so you create these arguments then sit back and blame others. End of my contribution to this thread due to being shouted down , yet again , by the Barefaced fan club.

[quote name='Sharkfinger' timestamp='1465511780' post='3068979'] Has anyone mentioned how bloody awkward 4x10 are to transport? My tech soundsystems gets round this by staggering the speakers. Surprised BF didn't do this, but I guess the design would put some people off. [/quote] The shape was one reason these cabs were deemed to be 'wrong' a few years ago and I remember hearing that a vertical 410 is the best way to do it but cab makers won't do those because it's not what the public want. So , now we go full circle with a 'normal' shaped 410....yes I know all about the low pass thing etc etc.. Funny old world sometimes....

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1465245424' post='3066507'] It would be completely understandable, if Alex really couldn't be bothered revisiting this thread. [/quote] Unless he fancies a Hob Nob....

Who invited him anyway ?? If Barefaced made biscuits.....

I had one of these too. With the master at 12 o clock it was pretty much running at full power as it never got louder after that. They tend to go into protect mode if pushed hard.

[quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1465120417' post='3065376'] I wouldn't be using it bridged at 8 ohms. 500W at 4 ohms is an absolute minimum for me and my current Yamaha power amp is more than that anyway, hence why I'd like a marginal amount of more power for headroom if it's an upgrade, if you see my point. [/quote] Yep , fair enough !

[quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1465118268' post='3065349'] Such a pity it's only 500W per side. If it was 800W, I'd probably grab one. Sound samples please! [/quote] 1000W not enough then ?

Great show , a refreshing change from crap like X Factor and The Voice.

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1465072214' post='3065150'] I thought he would be using a Maruszczyk by now... [/quote] He might do if he's given one for free....

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1464980778' post='3064448'] If I had to take a guess, I'd say the marketing language is pretty bold & aggressive*... which I suspect is more of a magnet to critics. [size=3]*I'm not suggesting for one minute that it's untrue, just bold & aggressive.[/size] [/quote] Hang on....I'm just getting the biscuits....

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1464980403' post='3064440'] Ok, poor choice of words. But I still don't know why it's only his products that get this amount of polarising discussion. [/quote] I could give you my opinions on why....but I'm really not going down that rabbit hole again....#allbeensaidbefore...

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464975616' post='3064365'] Where is Alex getting slagged? [/quote] Er...he's not as far as I can tell. Larry Hartke doesn't get slagged for the simple reason that his products are really good , reliable , durable and value for money..so why would he ?

JE was almost deaf too , hence his use of treble so he could hear himself.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1464866894' post='3063253'] 3. The sound of a speaker and the sound of a cab are inextricably intertwined - the cab determines how the speaker sounds and vice versa. If you mic a speaker you hear the sound of the cab, just like if you look at a person in a hall of mirrors you see what they look like from that angle and many other angles too. [/quote] I'm a bit confused by how if you close mic a speaker , you are getting the whole cab sound ? If you put your ear close to a single speaker you get a different tone to the one you get from being further away from the cab as you are then hearing all the speakers plus the ports and tweeters etc. Likewise , when recording a cab , it's common practice to close mic a speaker and also use another mic further away to record the whole cab plus ambient sound etc. Maybe there is something I'm missing here but it's how I always perceived how a mic on a cab worked.

I use my VT Bass pedal like this also. I have my sound set up on the amp and the pedal set so it doesn't alter the tone so much but just livens the whole thing up. Been using it ever since I got it 7 years ago.

It's quite similar , spec wise , to my Ampeg SVT6 Pro which also sounds monsterous ! looks like it has selctable mid frequencies with cut and boost ? Sweet looking amp.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1464876627' post='3063417'] Fab! As it happens, the postman has just been here too. And left me one of these... What a beast... I'll use it on Saturday night. [/quote] This looks like my kind of amp !

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464882679' post='3063501'] Best get some arnica and some plasters too. EDIT: hopefully it won't get to stitches. EDIT2: or broken limbs. [/quote] But it could break the internet....