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@Al Krow Do you mean use a boost between the speaker out and the cab? Or do you mean a pre amp out into a different power amp? I don't believe that you could or should use a boost between the speaker out and the cab and I'm not quite sure how you would either. As 8wire says a boost isnormally used (as i'm sure you know) to drive the pre amp of an amp but not to boost out at the otehr end of the 'signal chain'.

Yer man from Incubus, Ben Kenney, used to tour with a couple of WA rigs - combo and ext cab beneath - see the link. It would be a pricy rig for us mere mortals http://mesaboogie.com/artist/ben-kenney.html

I really like the feature set on this new WD-800 and as a previous WalkAbout amp user - it really is a cracking wee amp - I along with many others wondered what might become of this little fellow. My previous comment and this one are about the implementation of the features and tech. I have two main heads I use live - apologies for the name dropping - My Fender TB600 is about 18kg old school solid state, big tranny power section and sounds great. I’ve used the Fender MB1200 power amp in a previous rig and like the TB 600 it was immediate and had loads of head room - sounding better the louder it got. It never lacked response and was always ‘quick’ and having that kind of power and headroom does make a difference. My other gigging amp has a hypex power module mated to a tube pre amp. It is also a fantastic sounding rig and I believe the implementation of the power section and the preamp in that amp makes it just as much fun to play, just as dynamic and responsive as the tranny, solid state power section in the TB600. On a gig they both sound great! With the WD-800 I trust/hope the engineers at Mesa have maximized the current tech to provide a really well designed and integrated pre/power section to deliver what on the surface looks like a really comprehensive fully featured amp. It should be an absolute cracker if that classic WalkAbout vibe is nailed with the higher wattage. Would I sell my current rig to get one? I certainly look forward to trying one first before passing judgement...

The WD-800 has a great feature set which in theory would allow one to maximise the efficiency of both the head and cab between the hpf and damping. Its the old thing that people would complain that an amp doesn’t have a feature such as ‘tunable’ HPF and when a company adds that feature along with additional control for a damping thus offering the user a complete ‘solution’ it’s criticised as being superfluous with no actual real world use or experience of it. 😀🤣 Forums eh!!

Been there and its awful to have gear nicked which some sh*tebag will try and sell for £200 down their local boozer or at a Cash Convertor. I've posted on some FB bass for sale threads. Good Luck! Scott from SBL's got his stolen Moollon back as it was spotted on ebay. Keep an eye out there too.

I play a Super PZ5 and it's fantastic. It sounds like a P, feels and plays great and the neck is very comfortable for me. The Combustion/NG 5 string neck is also wonderful. I moved from a Lakland JO5 and the Ding was lighter and more comfortable and a perfect fit for my and my limited abilities. I'd love to try a Spector Euro XL (likely tuned to BEAD) out at some gigs and there is one on here in the FS section I like the look of but I'm not in a position to buy and my trade offer got rejected (single tear). I always imagine they would be too bright and zingy in the top end but still always kinda liked the style of them.

It’s always the same with new gear especially from someone with the following that Nordstrand has. Anything they make in their new pedal line will sell out immediately - the ‘gotta have it’s’ will be queued up and raving about it on Talkbass before they’ve got their hands on one...though it’s basically their 3b preamp in a box so many could be familiar with it already. Nothing like a new thread and a bit of hype to get the pre-orders in.

I know which one I'd use!

All depends what one needs from a pre-amp type unit but you'd be hard pushed to beat one of these. Do you want the latest bit of gear of a workhorse?

Bingo!

Line 6 have always evolved their products from pods to spider amps to the M series pedal boards but maybe not so quickly as the recent trend. Maybe they’ve been inspired by Darkglass with their recent slew of products? The buy out by Yamaha may actually be the cause for this ‘cannibalism’ of the HX line - getting all the variants out in such quick succession. I’d suggest that it’s been Yamaha’s decision rather than Line 6 to ‘saturate’ the market Q.E.D. But again getting everything out before the next NAMM cycle could be seen as a shrewd move - they know their audience and how fickle they can be. I’m not familiar enough with the range and all the variations on the feature sets but Yamaha have come out guns blazing with the three models and made their statement. If folks are happy with their units (whichever ones they end up with) then result. Early adopters often run the risk of being left behind by newer kit but when has that ever stopped anyone!

I think some of the main factors are: - low ball offers I'm guilty of this in the past too (for shame!) - 'buyers' not wanting to pay the asking price but maybe not really being that interested in buying it unless its a massively discounted, most likely becasue they have just been hit with GAS rather than really needing or wanting the item often in part to mega threads of gushing praise over the latest flavour of the week. - many folk don't want to make a loss on an item (which I get to a point - who wants to lose £££ on a GAS purchase?) I believe if both parties are serious they will be willing, within reason, to negotiate a reasonable offer in and around the asking price. Somewhere in the middle a deal can be struck. When a seller just needs to off load gear and lists things at a 'bargain' it can have a negative effect on the value of similar items and most BC folks are continually scanning the For Sale ad and thus create a 'market value'. Conversely when a seller want's to shift an item but holds a great personal connection to it the perceived value to them of that kit may well create a dissonance in what it's worth to them and what it's actually worth in real terms.

Do check out the link in post 2 as it very eloquently explains the interactivity of the Th preamp. As a TH pre amp user the guide was really useful. It will likely help when dialing in the amp. If you don’t try it you’ll never know!

@Cuzzie and I have both played the sandberg SL. It’s a delight. I’m happy to debate this for some time. Carry on

If in doubt listen to Hall and Oats That shoukd see you through the the personal crisis and help you over it!

The workshop cedar?

The sheer futility of it all. Thanks @Cuzzie you d i c k 😀😂

Bingo

I’m just grumpy and not afraid to show it 😀 My recent purchase wasn’t entirely ‘uninformed’ so while I haven’t played or owned this kit before it’s provenance or lineage was good enough to make the call and spend the cash. I kinda knew what I was getting in basic terms of output and the preamp at least however the proof of playing it is the joy. I could read a negative or positive opinion online and fall into the confirmation bias of the buyer but I’m confident enough in my knowledge and experience that it was worth the risk. Anyways that’s me off topic enough. Carry on with the debate!

If you don’t trust the numbers walk away. No harm no foul.

But so much of this stuff is in the ether and the guys who use it like it. Debates about this figure or that figure and whether it’s misleading or not become tedious as it becomes an opinion or a feeling but not based on any practical experience. My amp irrespective of ems or peak was a boss on the gig and I’m genuinely excited to play through it again and discover more of what it has to offer. Finally im cognisant of the ASA ( some close relatives have worked for Saatchi & Saatchi in the not too distant past) and their understanding of marketing and manipulation of the masses is frightening! Let’s hope they don’t get into politics!!

Well it’s always good to have discussion but the few people who actually own and gig one say it’s fine. What else need’s to be said?

I just bought an amp that said it was 600w I never thought to check if it was rms or peak. It’s never really occurred to do so but It was pretty loud at the gig when I plugged it in and played it. That’s sufficient proof for me. Folks are getting tied up in knots over a sub £300 amp because of an expectation or misrepresentation of the 2000w figure. What does your instinct say? We can defend the noob in a minute but what does your gut feeling lead you to think? Now I’ll ask have you played one at a gig? What’s your experience using this kit or is it simply postulation because...? Personally I look at the manual of new gear when I can. I’ve read manuals of gear I’ve never owned to get a feel for gear but I was very poor and very aspirational in terms of what I wanted to own and play😀Folks who know me on here can attest to that. I’m not one to believe marketing and I can ‘kinda’ figure out what an eq might do from the frequencies/features etc...kinda. Ten pages in and there’s still all this wasted energy on what it might do. I think the folk who own these heads state that they work on the gig? For those with the means buy one and test it on a gig and send it back for a refund if you don’t like it. If you just want to argue over the things a company might put in an advert well then you’re probably wasting your own time.