Muzz

If we're talking the average pub gig, old school heavy metal is completely done in most of the ones we play in, the nearest people want to get is Teen Spirit or Killing In The Name or pretty much anything by the Foo Fighters. I've noticed a lot of the others above becoming less and less popular over the last few years, too...and I'm not sad to see the back of most of them. I spent an awful lot of time in rock clubs in Manchester for an awful lot of years, and even I'm sick of stuff like All Right Now, so the average pub punter under 50 really doesn't want to hear it... Oasis, on the other hand... 😕😀

3 of my 4 gigging basses are P-P (the other one's a single MM-type)...they don't look it, tho... 😀

Well, that didn't last long... and it was tonier, too... 😀

Although let's not forget that a £1400 bass these days (let's say a US Fender) isn't miles away from what a £700 bass (let's say a US Fender) was a few years ago...as for a £3400 Rickenbacker 4003, if it's any different in terms of actual quality (leaving aside the fact that I got a dog) from the £1600 Rickenbacker 4003 I bought 5 years ago, I'd be very surprised... Completely agree about the bottom end, though: there are very few honkers sub-£500: very inexpensive and relatively high quality Chinese and Indonesian production has meant the days of the really really ropey plywood 'starter' instrument have pretty much gone...

I'd reiterate the point that no-one's asking for their own perfect nirvana on setup: by the point tastes get that exacting, the skills to set it up that way will probably have been developed. The issue is badly intonated (and there's a universal, despite later adjustments if strings are being changed by the buyer), neglected instruments that haven't had any sort of attention given to them: the G-string choking because the plastic cover had wrinkled up? Strings buzzing so much they were on the point of choking? One of them had a £900 price tag...if shanking £900 out of a punter doesn't justify ten minutes to set the thing up to be generally playable, then the staff/shop aren't doing their job, and won't get my business. Ever bought a secondhand car from a dealer that was filthy? A mini valet takes longer to do than setting up an instrument to be generally playable...

Preferences aside, anyone who works in a music shop with any sort of interest in their job who actually played either of the basses I was handed should have spotted a badly set up instrument immediately.

I was in PMT to try out combos, but the first bass I was handed was a Fender Precision of some sort (not too sure the exact model, but it was £899), and it was a dog of a thing, setup-wise. The G string was choking on the plastic cover for the pickup which had wrinkled, so I said "D'you want me to take this off?" and the answer was "Erm, no..." It went back on the wall without being touched... I got a BB434 next, which was better (the strings were in the same post code as the fretboard, at least), but if anything, this was too low, as it was a bucket of buzzes...and I don't mind a bit of fretbuzz... If I'd been in the market for a new bass, I really wouldn't have bothered... I also ordered a brand new 4003 a few years ago from GAK (at £1600), and that was terrible, too...it went back the next day...

Just as a little aside, I was watching a YouTube vid last night of The Stranglers on C4's The Tube circa '85, and JJB is using...a BB! A black one, obv... His sound wasn't so good (for JJB), but that was in the period just before Hugh left when it all went a little squishy...

Love them - apart from the odd flirtation with NYXLs, I use them on everything (barring my acoustic bass - flats on there), they last a long, long time, and I like a bright aggressive sound...

Well, if it's got a dowelling system that makes it like a neck-thru one-piece, that makes it tonier... Take my money 😏 Oh, I forgot the custom-wound alpino pickups... The real question is...does it go to eleven?

Funnily enough, I was in PMT today trying out some small combos, and was very impressed with the Studio 15; Ashdown have clearly gone for the Rumble series, and done a good job, too. The Studio 15 weighs nothing, is very compact, and has plenty of punch...

Was in PMT this afternoon trying out small combos (see my ongoing search for something loud and light in another thread*), and the first bass I was handed was an £899 Precision (not sure of exact model), which was just awful in pretty much every way, including having considerable and surprising neck dive. I gave my opinion of it, and was handed a 434, which was soooo much better. A nice slim neck, too - big improvement on the 1024X. If I closed my eyes I wanted one, but then I opened my eyes...and no, sadly, I'm far too shallow... TL:DR - 434 necks are slim and very very nice; £900 new Precisions are rubbish. Oh, and they had a Fireglow 4003 hiiiigh up on the wall for £3349. Yep, you heard that right: pushing £3.5k for a bog-stock Rick... * If you're interested, the winner was the new Ashdown Studio 15. Weighs nowt (26lbs, IIRC), plenty of ooomph, very compact. Ashdown have gone for the Rumbles directly, and from what I heard, got it right.

I'm 56 shortly, I love gigging (I'm with the right people, and yeah, I guess I'm lucky in that), there's two originals bands (one's been going 30 years) which are very occasional but pleasant ones, and a busy covers trio with minimal gear to get a great sound, so it's all good. As is the money. Not gonna stop any time soon. 😁

Ours was a regular venue, picked up late (and for less money than usual NYE rates) because we didn't have a gig and the drummer was super-skint. Both the blokes who own/run the pub were absent (one ill, one away), leaving three young bar girls and no door staff. As a consequence, the usual late-20s-mid-40s crowd had turned into a youth club, most of the lads in puffer jackets and tracksuits, bellowing at each other...yeah, lads, I remember my first drink, too... Amongst the girls, there appeared to have been a 57-way tie for the local Dress Like A Teenage Hooker Competition, possibly inducing the aforementioned Bellowing... Amazingly, it didn't actually kick off, though we left (see below) a long time before closing, so the air of potential fisticuffs could well have been realised before then... We played a couple of mostly unregarded sets (tho there was sporadic dancing for the second one), but finished at 11:45 to let the countdown and inevitable spillage of drinks run its course, there were some gingerly-detonated fireworks outside, during which lull we packed up and fecked off. Back home for half twelve, so not too bad, but it was one of those gigs where you're clock-watching pretty much from the start...

Sorry, not very clear there: 12th fret, 2mm on the E, that being the highest: the others are lower going down to about 1.5mm on the G. I never used to measure the action, just set it how I like it, and that’s how I still do it: I measure afterwards and hey presto, it’s always 2mm at the 12th on the E 😀 As far as Clank goes, I don’t mind some, and I like more of it when the song calls for it...in fact it’s like solo bass tones: they’re verrry different (and rarely better) with the full band playing. Just listening to some of those isolated bass parts from people like John Entwistle, Chris Squire and Geddy Lee shows how tons of clank and gnarl can kind of settle into the band sound, and you don’t hear them...

The pickguard is aesthetic genius, but still not a colour I'd suit. It's me complexion, see... 😁

The BB3000 (and 5000) came in a sparkly black, not unlike the EB Starry Night kinda finish, only much subtler... Nope, not orange, Ever. My BB300 was black, tho. Yer actual black... 🙂

Oddly, back in the day (I think '88) when I bought my BB3000A, I wanted a black one, but the only one Yamaha had left in Europe was white... 🙂

Oh dear... 🙂 Thanks, I've been keeping an eye out for a s/h one to try, but as you say, they're quite rare...even rarer in white, which is the only colour I'd want...

If that godawful sound doesn't teach the lesson that a bass is best EQ'd to the whole band sound and not soloed, nowt will... 😕🙂

I don't like a high action, but as I'm mostly an aggressive pick player, I don't go 1mm low, either. I find just under 2mm to be the right place for me. 2.5mm and up seems like hard work... Never noticed the tone changing much with action height, either, but then I have active EQs in all my basses, so it might be that...

Now that's just against the spirit of this place...where would the whole industry be if we played cheap basses that were just fine? 😕😁

I've had a couple of fretless basses, and while I don't have one at the mo because I don't have a requirement for one, I've never had a lined one...they just seemed a bit, erm, training wheels... 🤐

Just to be awkward, I've squeezed a pair of Dingwall split coil soapbars under the chrome covers on mine, which is my preference for sound. The Epi routs are a decent size to fit most soapbars in, so the world's your oyster, really...

Luckily, I don't have any back issues, but the heaviest bass I have is just under 9lbs, and now I wouldn't consider anything heavier. My 7.5lb Dingwall is fantastic for a long gig: the difference, even between 7.5 and 9lbs, is huge.