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[quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1417421953' post='2620065'] Would you class your band as 'Classic Rock' then? If so, I'd be genuinely interested in knowing what is in your set list [/quote] If I understand the term, then no I wouldn't and it would also be something I'd run away from tbh... Too manmy bands round her doing that....i.e 80's gtr stuff. We just say, rock, funk, blues. Staple sonngs in our set would be Woddcutters, Weller Middle of the road Pretenders Life during wartime Talking heads as in staple, I mean ever presents. We'll also do a couple of Elbow, throw in some Stones and Starsailor. The set used to have quite a bit of imagination, IMO.. but now we based ourselves around 90's stuff as we found..accidentally, that this covers birthday party ranges from 25-60 years. Good for the money, but gets boring when the audience dictates too much. Don't get me wrong, I like the money, just that I'd prefer to mix it up with a bit more imagination...

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4eUWBAE_A"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4eUWBAE_A[/url] assuming you are going for E, then you only have to fit 8th notes in..and you can play the octave from the E on the 7th ( A )... I don't see what the bottom E really gives you anyway... and simple octaves should work...depending what everyone else is doing. As said, you are going to have to work it out in context of the band doing it... as their patterns might dictate yours. Forget tab ... it's a busker, Having said that... octaves were a thing of the 70's 80's anyway... not sure I'd want to go near them with this track now... that would sort everything anyway..

Work thru it as it will stand you in good stead at a later point... but I also fail to see why the track should need or have to have octaves.. and especially if its a struggle The part needs driving and it gallops... work with a few different ways of playing it but simple octaves doesn't really drive it anyway..but if you must do that..you could play the octave at the 12th

Thankfully, none of the above are in our set..

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1417348496' post='2619339'] ...................... They are always years behind the competition. These days of Mark Bass and TC, agulia ect.., where are they in bass amps ? Nowhere is the answer, nostalgia of yesteryear. [/quote] Never been a factor bass-wise, IMO. I had one back in the day when you HAD to have one..or thought you did and couldn't wait to swap it out for a Hiwatt which was heaps better.

[quote name='zero9' timestamp='1417345952' post='2619277'] Most bass cabs won't produce the fundamental frequency of a low B. [b]Stick with the 4 and get an octaver[/b]......... [/quote] This is funny... Almost thought you were serious.

Why would you do this....? You have a hulking great amp ..which the sole purpose of it is the sheer grunt and you want to run it thru a weedy ( comparitively ) cab. Sounds like a waste of valve life to me... I'd say sell it and run a PF500 instead... ( if they have solved the reliability issues ) or man up and do it all properly

1st thing is that the band members need to say and be happy with the amount of commitment required. Some people want 2 -3 a month as families need to come into the equation, so everyone needs to be happy with the workload and then be very organised with a diary. I don't expect bands to be the be-all and end-all to everyone but if people say that can and will do something, you need to have trust in them to do just that. After that you get the people in that you want and some band sets aren't very buskable so if you book a dep, then they need to be able to get up to speed very quickly...and tbh, the pub gig can't really pay enough for someone to put the time in UNLESS it is a carrot for gigs down the road. It depends who you call, and it depends what you want covered. Pub gigs get what they get...but most people want £100 to start with and with negotiate down if they would rather have something than nothing. If you use FB groups, then people are willing to travel 2hrs to a gig but they'll want £150 plus exes...before they even get picky about who or what they play. If music is your prime income, then going out on Sat night for £150 means you aren't doing very well, but sometimes that is what you will be happy to take,.

[quote name='Telebass' timestamp='1417337808' post='2619171'] This low B thing - although I've only played entry-level 5s (and a Bongo HH years ago in a shop in Cardiff), I don't believe it affects any bass more than another, scale lengths being equal. [b]String choice must make a huge difference[/b]. [/quote] It does, but not as much as good construction. I played older Fender 5's that just couldn't be rescued ... I think they never cracked it for quite a while whch is why I would be wary of older Fender 5's. And the general low quality sound is why I commisioned my first 5 ..albeit back in '92. The likes of Lakland brough the standard up and this is why the retain a decent rep for 5's and their B's but it really isn't a given. I played MM derivatives (Subs ) whihc don't cut it and these are an £800 bass. The classic poor B manifests itself as a poor flubby D note on the B string ...and poor sustain.... more double bass than electric bass.

The best ones are the sprung loaded on the side. I'd prefer recessed handles rather than a strap but Berg recessed straps work well. Straps that sit proud aren't any good for the light weight class D generally... but really a decent strap and its position is basic design. None of my cabs have a problem... It isn't rocket science.

P-bass every day of the week and twice on sundays. I bet you wouldn't get certain gigs without one... as nothing sits like a P.

Deepends how audible is audible ... My SWR gets so hot but uses heat sinks whereas my two Aguilars have audible fans..altho one has a on/off switch and the TH500 doesn't. I'd take a TH pedal into the studio but I don't think the TH500 or its ilk are studio amps, tbh. They are built to a pricepoint and the studio is not its remit, IMO.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1417247160' post='2618484'] I think the point is if you want to be out earning money from gigging you can't be too choosy about the songs you play. . [/quote] Indeed.. you can maybe pick and choose on the fri and sats... but sun to thurs is a tough gig to get week-in, week-out..expecially beyond pub money.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1417197619' post='2618164'] Unless you really are that good (by you I mean anyone reading this in general rather than you as such JT) then dropping a gig for a better gig will get you sacked fairly quickly IME, if the band is made up of a consistent set of members as a lot of the bassist's here probably are then the rest of that band would rather have a slightly less brilliant bassist that wont drop them in the poop last minute. I have only pulled out of one confirmed gig as my brother anounced he was getting married that day and wanted our band at the time, the others were finding it hard to grasp that we either did my brothers gig or no gig (or at least not with me) at first! [/quote] Kind of..... It is accepted that some players have a better gig than I can offer them... and so whilst I am pleased they will play my gig, they will only do it if something better doesn't come along ( and by something better, I mean their 'main' gig that pays better and is a better gig/show.. ) It might be a weekend set of dates and they may be committed to it after they took your gig..or they may just really want to do it...so as long as I know, and it is for a good reason..( which I agree it would have to be ) then that is the price you pay. I'd do it... I understand there are ways to do these things and you don't just dump them right in it, but the choice is to have these players available or not. I agree you can't be unreliable, but if they got the call to play a named gig, then they will do it...just as I would want to do it should I be lucky enough to get offered one. It is not so much the money as function type money is good enough, but their gig might be a 2000 seater or festival and all that that entails along with the prestiege. As long as people aren't dickheads about it, we all wish them the best gig.

You aren't re-learning songs, you know the changes and you react to them as you know they are coming. you are also comfortable with transposing keys and you have charts if you need them. No one does standarsd in the same key... so be prepared to dive around... That is the world of deps... and pick-up bands. God knows how many songs you'll know... you just have to be able to play them and can hear them as they come. And for ones you don't know, you'll need a system to cover them.. if that is bass pad in whatever form, then fine.

Generally not as we tend not to be a band from a website type booking. They have been referred by friends or good contacts so an e-mail chain is good enough after the initial phone call. If we get the impression the gig is a bit chancey, then we don't want to be doing it anyway.

The first gig offered thing only works if all the gigs are the same standard.... You can't expect a 'touring pro' to keep your gig free at the Dog and Duck if he is committed/contracted to another unit. You have to reasonable and also fair... If you want these people in your band..and you should, IMO.. then the diary and availability of other options is paramount. So, there will always be a pecking order in this scenario. The ability to keep a diary does indeed avoid a lot of hassle though...

I'd say no on the basis that you think it may be an idea to go with. I think you should be certain it is the way to go and you should be hearing parts where a 5 would work and therefore be frustrated with only a 4.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1417091202' post='2616963'] That's a fair amount of wages there for 4weeks work. Consider they have no personal travel to pay over that time, no accommodation, the Best Western hotel will include a huge breakfast then they have another $20 a day for food on top. That's another $480 (after tax). ........... When you're on the road there is very little to spend money on. .............. [/quote] The promoter in Europe will provide an evening meal, accomodation and breakfast so it is basically eating during the day on the way to the next gig. So depending what you must eat, $20/15eu seems ok on that basis. As for verty little else to spend your money on..??? ,there are always ...er hookers as every European town will have a red light district and if you don't know the town and you want to go where there are always people, then you gravitate towards the red light district. It would help if you left your money back at the hotel.... but strangely this 'rule' goes out the window pretty quickly, for some people.

Of course you need to take into account the gig but if you are doing a posh date in LOndon for good money, then you make sure you wear proper shoes... even if you have to change into them. Shoes tell you a lot ...

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1417034511' post='2616522'] Necessary, I think. If you're getting function band rates you need to look professional (and sound it obviously, but that's another thread). [/quote] But you don't have to all look the same in black or look like the bar staff... I would say as long as you look smart..having said that, we've had drummers turn up to a black tie looking like he had spent all day working under a tractor ( and he had ) which was NOT funny. I do think you have to know what works where...or is acceptable, of course.

And unless you are in a fucntion band and can't come up with anything better, don't ALL wear black or black trousers with a white shirt unless you want to be getting the drinks all night. Our brief for a function is smart casual with a fitted shirt, we've not needed to say anymore than that.. Oh and FFS..no trainers.

In the pic of the OP... the band looks awful. They obviously don't talk about it or even care so I guess the gig doesn't warrant it..?? At least wear some clothes that fit

Yes... it is more likely that you couldn't gig down to that age group, but by the same token, older gigs tend to keep older players

The band/crew seemed to split $9000 a week so that is about $1500 on an equal split. Ok..thats for 7 shows a week, but that is decent pay, in my book. They could have been smarter, but seems like a nice gig all round. I have no idea about the music tho..