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just to add i cant understand how you may think that MR x sounds like he improvising and uninvolved?? i think its some wonderfully intuitive bass playing..he knows exactly what hes doing and where hes going from change to change...i like both versions but to say that MR X sounds uninvolved???? thats like saying Jamerson is bumbling around i think your missing the point but thats just my opinion of course...

[quote name='Doddy' post='899201' date='Jul 19 2010, 06:10 PM']I think that the 'looseness' of the album version gives it a cooler laid back vibe. Like I said earlier,that's the track that got me into Jamiroquai-I just really got into the groove of that track.I bought the album straight away(on tape from Our Price!!!) and played it to death,but that version of 'Space Cowboy' always stood out to me. This was about 18 months before I ever picked up a bass,so it wasn't the playing that attracted me.The whole vibe of the track just made me feel good. I've just stuck the album version on now,and it still does it for me more than any other Jamiroquai track.[/quote]+1.. i was blown away when i first heard the bass playing on the album V...a much smoother cooler version but as we all know different people dig different vibes...this version has always stuck with me too..Doddy your IMO spot on to say its a looser version, with a more direct melodic groove...especially love the break and the following bass playing.. i would say the single version is more pop while the album version is more jazz funk not to say i dont rate Stu's...still very very funky for me its the best of Jamiroquai with either..

thanks bro..does it have to be electrical cleaner....were not talking WD40 are we

hi..im getting scratchy noises coming from my U Retro when i turn the dials...any ideas why this is? is it the single coils?

[quote name='4000' post='898314' date='Jul 18 2010, 07:33 PM']I love Stu's tone; the only player for the original Jamiroquai IMO. Paul's a great player (and I've told him so!) but Stu was so integral to the original band. Mr Xs playing sounds to me like the sort of thing I'd do when I was trying to work out what I was actually going to play on the finished track. Stu's version IMO is much more concise, focused and, well, funky. Each to their own though.[/quote] if this is what you would play just working out a bass line to this track, i wanna see/hear you play!!?? thats a bold statement.....ok i get what you mean, but at the end of the day its a different style with fills that are much more musical, with alot less space..im gonna hide after i say this but.....i bet Mr X could play the Zender version with his eyes closed, but i bet you Zender could not come out with the musicality that this guy does... different horses and all..

although i think the album version is erm IMO...technically better and more flowing musically note for note, i like the fact that most of BC like the simpler Zender version...it just goes to show that simpler bass lines may be better depending on there application...i still get more enjoyment listening to mr X but i can appreciate Stuart's lines... the more i listen the more i like...can anyone let me know what else Stu played on, would be very interesting to see his adaption to other music..

the only things ive ever needed to set up a bass are a pozi, and allen keys and a metal engineers ruler... the rest of my kit contains side cutters, a tuner, polish, fret board cleaner, a vernier, and a cloth...oh also a head torch and a draw full of snap on tools, oh plus a multi meter and some glue..did i mention my tool belt with router and a lathe?? and a pencil behind my ear

[quote name='Bilbo' post='898838' date='Jul 19 2010, 12:41 PM']I think this is more like 'Miles with Miller'. Miles had the arse with his record company through this period and let Miller write and play almost everything, just turning up to record his parts. I have nothing with Miller on - don't really like his 'thing' and seeing his name on a cd cover puts me off buying. Great player, crap music [/quote] Bilbo im suprised at your "crap music" comment....music is in the eye of the beholder, a musician of you experience should know that.. if he didnt slap would you look at him differently?

[quote name='dr1' post='898824' date='Jul 19 2010, 12:28 PM']that's interesting. i'm not familiar with the history of his signature bass - i thought they started around 1998. thats 81/82. could it be it's his fender jazz which have been modified by sadowsky?[/quote]his signature bass was based on a 70's jazz bass...some say its a 75 but i believe its a later model a 77.....also the original electronics were Bartolini not Sadowsky..(i could be wrong on this) this may have changed later? not sure of the plate he had fitted to house the electronics...would love to know... i will find out from my erm...source

sorry bro i disagree with the 'Squire eating a Les Paul alive'...ive played both and the Les Paul is a power house..the early ones were an awsome bass, but heavy...they are a bit of a one trick pony yes, but it really depends on how you play it...i can get some funky sxxt out of one.. i could be wrong but this should have bartolini pickups...and as i said check the weight, they were heavy back then.. you all prob seen this before but like i said its the way you play it [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4151Xvhje4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4151Xvhje4[/url]

[quote name='steviedee' post='898744' date='Jul 19 2010, 11:17 AM']Great clip man but you'll kick off the 'Marcus is great/sh*t', 'I love/hate his hat' debate, which seems to rage endlessly on basschat![/quote]yeah i know..never heard the hat one though...

i would go for the JO...didnt like the pre in the MM, but played one with an east and it rocked..the Fender standard is a great bass..but i think the Laky is a better buy...Sandberg also..dont forget used basses..i also love the KSD jazzes, there fantastic.. BTW its the single coils on the MM that are noisy, the pre is just a little harsh.. stu did you ever sell the Moon?

found this...gotta love it....what i love is how his bass looks like new! only a few years old..ok 6 years old thanks JT.. ha ha sorry JT its 4 years old.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSKow6i0qiY&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSKow6i0qiY...feature=related[/url]

thats a tricky one...depends how much you like the SR5's tone...i had one and loved it...The sadowsky will give you a better return though...

He he..i love it!!! love the pink udders/i mean pickups...

[quote name='JTUK' post='897105' date='Jul 17 2010, 09:19 AM']How would you value the basses, price-wise....? At a guess, I'd think the RV4 would be £1800 plus, and the DJ4 about £800...?? The Sadowsky would need to be REALLY REALLY spot on considering the competition around that price...??[/quote] well i think there all over priced but then i never buy new and never would...The sadowsky was very good, but i remember when they were -1500...i would never pay 1800..im suprised they sell any to be honest... I reckon the Lakland 44-01 is well worth the new price, just such a capable bass for a grand..its only the Sadowsky's unique tone that stands them apart. not £800's worth though.......the laky's tone is still IMHO awsome...Laklands are great value...that would be my choice

just sharing what funk soul you may not of heard.. Erykah's version of Chaka's Stay [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryLzh5Wfu7w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryLzh5Wfu7w[/url] Marcus Miller in true modern R&B stylee...with lallah hathaway on backing.... Infatuation....when it gets going, his playing on this is smokin..shows musical slap at his best.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FES8lmPufcI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FES8lmPufcI[/url] My favorite album of all time with the master Jackson on bass... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNArTCG6j2A"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNArTCG6j2A[/url] Apart from 'between the raindrops' this my favorite Steely D tune..Mega cool funk with the masters of musical perfection..love the guitar break in this.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbmJMJA4Lc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbmJMJA4Lc[/url] There is not much that moves me like this band...not a popular tune...but 'Cant let Go' when it gets going is a superb EWAF song. everything is good about this..groove, harmony, singing, bass playing....always wondered what it would sound like wth stevie wonder doing guest vocals. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLetyIPrbEc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLetyIPrbEc[/url] Gene Harris ala Stevies 'AS'...wonderful take on this classic..the bass playing is cool as fxxk [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20pX_9F8vI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20pX_9F8vI[/url] When i first started playing bass i found Billy Cobham, i have lots of his stuff, but for me this is his best best groove......awsome!!! Red Baron...this is soo good..this is how i learned to play bass..the band are just mind blowing..sometimes when i see Clapton or other major guitar players, they aint got a patch on guys like John Mclau..but what do i know.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN9Vaml0dZE&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN9Vaml0dZE...feature=related[/url] Stratus [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYH4PC710ac"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYH4PC710ac[/url] you prob seen this before but its fantastic.. i love george duke hes the man...i also love Lee Ritenour..hes an amazing guitarist.. masters at work.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUzu-5UcN-s&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUzu-5UcN-s...feature=related[/url] end of music spilling out!!

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='896956' date='Jul 16 2010, 10:58 PM']No that's not really what I meant (although it's a good point and probably true). I mean when you hear someone put in a stand-out bass take, you can hear that they are enjoying it, you can hear that they're familiar with that style of music and they've created an authentic sound but at the same time their own take on it - not just stringing together a bunch of cliche licks and coming up with some JobFinder / Casio auto-rhythm version of the beat or whatever. I also think it's pretty disrespectful to the great artists of any given genre to suggest that you can do what they do and also what everybody else does in all other genres, and be authentic at all of it, without caring about it or listening to it in any detail. It's nonsense really.[/quote]i agree with you..but im sure there are guys that feel lot of different styles, and do it very well...thats what makes them great session players... Willie Weeks, Chuck Rainey, Nathan East are masters at this..but i guess that what makes them greats...

jamie..the first thing i will say is dont let the bad experiences of the band get in the way of your playing and enjoyment of music...the bad experience is not music..dont let your love for playing bass be damaged by this ( i pressume) politics .. seems like quite a intense thing you have gone through...dont sell your gear...i would say have a bit of time to think about it, then make a decision... keep it on the side line, unless you really need to sell for financial reasons..i was in dire straits a while ago...everything went but my bass gear...at the end of the day its your call, and its your passion...if it is your passion, dont let it go... if you dont mind me asking what was the bad experience? i was in a situation where i was being pressured to sell my Sei...i literally would have slept rough than sell my basses, thats how much i feel about them...sounds silly i know, but i have such a connection with my gear....remember gear is easy to loose but to save up for new gear takes a mile and a half