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I know I'm predictable, but can I chip in here and recommend that you have a look at the [url="http://www.public-peace.de/index.php/bass-guitars/maruszczyk/jake/4-string"]Maruszczyk Jake[/url]? I checked out the Fender Deluxe P a while ago - in fact, I ordered one, but sent it back - and ended up with a Jake for loads less money. (Disclaimer: other basses are available, etc.)

I just don't play in loud bands any more. Life's too short.

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1460116529' post='3022718'] WOT - I hit them with - 'I bought new stock, you sent me B stock, I would be happy to keep it with an appropriate discount'. So far as I can see that is a sensible option that costs everyone involved less time, money and hassle. Anyway, my email to the boss prompted contact from the head of Customer Care and I have now decided to take a full refund and move on. [/quote] Ah, OK - that seems reasonable. A good outcome.

Yep - did you hit them straight away with 'My amp is scratched, can I have a discount please?' If so, I think they're behaving sensibly. Always best just report stuff first, and let them handle it.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1460112123' post='3022659'] No one has ever complained that a band has been too quiet. [/quote] I refer my learned friend to [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/282636-were-pubsmaller-venue-bands-quieter-in-the-past/page__view__findpost__p__3022207"]this earlier post[/url]. :-)

[quote name='mr zed' timestamp='1460058425' post='3022288'] Watts are not a measure of volume, they are a measure of power. You need to be looking at the SPL. I swear my 900 watt class d Genz amp is not as loud as the 300 watt Mesa Walkabout I used to own. [/quote] I learned this a long time ago. And yes, many bands are just TOO LOUD. I can't remember if it was as bad as this back in the day, but it's one of the reasons I don't get out to see bands much these days.

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1460016584' post='3021721'] Im looking at replacing my BB2 with a Vanderkley 1x15 (maybe, its first on the list). Ive never found any cab or rig to sound bad at low levels, even turned up in a shop. For me the only test worth doing is with a band. Once the drummer starts i then gauge how well things are working. So yes, recommendations are good but you cant beat a real test to see how things work. I find a lot of recommendations are also based on low level playing, or with PA support. Not always helpful to those needing a cab to do it all, although better than nothing. [/quote] Yup. I'm very wary about anything - cab, amp or bass - until it's been gigged a few times.

April fool's day... serious stuff.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1459853217' post='3020197'] I don't remember any fuss being made when Trace came out with their black painted boxes. [/quote] Seriously? Trace looked like cabs from outer space when they first launched...

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1459850719' post='3020166'] I drive an old Mondeo and predominately wear jeans, t-shirt and trainers (none of which have logos on)...what can I say [/quote] Ha.. pretty much me too, but.. someone put a lot of time into designing those, whether it affects your choice or not. It must matter to some people :-) Coming from Berg cabs, and now using TKS, there's no doubt in my mind that the BF cabs didn't feel as substantial and 'engineereed'. Whilst I appreciate it's probably entirely cosmetic thing, 'cos I'm a human being, it undoubtedly influences how I feel about them. Other things too - I remember it being mentioned that cloth over a steel grille was too tricky to achieve... TKS do it perfectly. I don't want to make this BFB vs. other cab builders - they're great cabs with satisfied owners. But I think a rejig on the looks (and binning that awful badge) would do more good than harm.

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1459850211' post='3020159'] Regards cabs painted in TuffCab paint. It may not look 'pretty' however, really it's just makes it look like black box like all other black boxes, which for most of the time we have our backs turned to. [/quote] It could be argued that you generally don't see the clothes you're wearing, or the car you (may) drive around in... etc.

FWIW, one of the most fun cabs I ever used was a BFB Vintage. I really enjoyed gigging that one.

That TB thread was pretty interesting reading...

[quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1459767122' post='3019283'] I haven't, and don't see the point given what happened over the refret thing in the club thread and that was a visible issue, rather than this. I'm going to take it to a luthier and get it sorted myself. Once that's done I'm hoping my grump will go away because it is lovely and I want to be in love with it rather than feel sad when I play it. I don't want to send it back, I just want it to play properly. [/quote] OK. I think it's pretty unfair to go on about it unless you've given him a chance to respond. If you give him a chance, and nothing comes of it, then of course that's a different matter.

[quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1459761678' post='3019197'] Unless you get a chimped one like mine. Oh well. After me trying to get it better and the music shop trying to get it better to the point of fitting a shim I'm going to find a good local luthier to get the damn thing to play right. Shame because the pickups are great and the neck feels great, it's just either buzz or 12 miles off the fretboard currently so it's an ornament Anyway, I'll stop bringing everyone's day down. I'm exceptionally glad yours was really good and Ezbass's. [/quote] Presumably you've given Adrian a chance to sort it out - what did he say?

It's been a bit of an adventure recently, doing lots of different stuff with different bands. More soon. One of the bands well-known around here for its strong vocals. Unfortunately, one of the three singers left recently, and I got the short straw to pick up his harmonies. Here's a clip from the first public gig in this config. I think I just about got away with it... (edit - not The Dukes of September. ha ha) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMt_2r2l3yw

I like this clip. Freddie Washington's GOT IT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRINGFbXI4

Me ol' Dad likes a bit of a sing every now and then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5d7g7BzDxk

I've seen him do a few telly things in the past, and he's never been anything other than dreadful and miserable. Poor soul.

Lots to consider, but I'd second the TKS 12's or 2x12.

[quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1459607296' post='3018051'] Yeah, discovered that when I gave up and took it to the guitar shop. In the end, in order to bring the buzzing to a human level and still have a usable action they had to put a small shim in, which is a bad show, basically I think next time I get GAS I'll either buy direct from the bass show or nip to bass direct. After this I'm done with buying unseen. Not that it's bad, it sounds great in fact, it's just marred the whole experience, especially knowing I won't be able to completely get rid of the buzzing without having action a bus could ride under. [/quote] That's disappointing. Did you mention it to Adrian? Has the shim sorted it, or is the action too high?

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1459604884' post='3018024'] I just adjusted my truss rod as I've fitted some EB flatwound cobalts to my new bass; it needed a little tighten due to the slightly increased tension. I adjusted in the normal way, turning to the right the counteract the forward pull, checked still needed a bit more tension, checked again - hang on, the relief was getting bigger! It seems that the adjustment is the reverse way round from what I'm used to on all the other basses I've owned, with turning to the left (when viewed from the bridge) reducing the relief. Perhaps this will help with your current buzzing issues. [/quote] Ah, I meant to mention his ages ago. I noticed the same thing. Very odd!

[quote name='Pow_22' timestamp='1459506906' post='3017183'] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Its been a long flatwound quest for me. Im starting to think the sound im after maybe doesn’t exist![/color][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Basically I want thumpy but with SOME sustain, not just thud. The tension needs to be reasonable (not talking TI flop but not cables either). I play with a pic 99% of the time and suffer from thumb ache on my picking hand, maybe down to technique but I don’t get it on lower tension strings. [/color][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]I also don’t like sets that have the seemingly common dead E problem. So far ive tried:-[/color][/size][/font] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Picato Flats[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Lovely sound, just about right tension. E string problem as mentioned above[/color][/size][/font] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Pyramid Gold[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Had everything I was looking for bar thump. Fantastic tension, good E string, great feel but just lacked that old school thump. Did I give them long enough?[/color][/size][/font] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Fender Flats[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Lovely but slightly high tension[/color][/size][/font] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Status Flats[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [size=3][color=#000000][font=Times New Roman]Thought these were THE one’s….then the E died prematurely [/font][font=Wingdings]L[/font][/color][/size] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]La Bella FS[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Stunning but too high tension[/color][/size][/font] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Elites[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]High tension and dead E[/color][/size][/font] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]TI’s[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Wet noodles[/color][/size][/font] [b][u][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Sadowksy[/color][/size][/font][/u][/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Honky middy with not enough thump. Good tension and E tho[/color][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]I play a P bass with DiMarzio DP122 pups into a valve amp and 4x10 sealed cab. I have considered that my pups may not be ‘old school’ enough for the tone im chasing.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]The holy grail tone im after is the tone Baz Fratelli gets on The Fratellis songs Look Out Sunshine, Mistress Mabel etc on the album Here We Stand[/color][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Next on list to try are DR’s, Optima and possibly the new Dunlops though im hearing they are very Roundwound sounding[/color][/size][/font] [/quote] Hmm.. I wonder if the missing bit in the chain is something other than the strings...?

These have been around for years - surely someone must have one...?

Beautiful. Love the muted finish on this.