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Depends on your tens and the cabinet. Bill used to offer a 210 option on a folded horn that would beat the hell out of most 15 regular subs. Also twice the size. A compact 12 sub could add a little thump to a vocal PA. If deployed under the bass cabinet you risk having bass coming out of the bass cabinet out of phase with the PA bass signal which could get ugly for the bass cabinet. It would take quite a bit of wiring and processing to make the best of it.
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MB were quick to mass market the Class D. Consequently they were teaching everyone of the consequences of the whole board replacement maintenance strategy. In the US their representatives let them down. So that's where the internet hate comes from. That, and YELLOW! Sound wise they are a bit oddball. What looks like EQ knobs are filters that have to be fully counterclockwise to have no effect. Big mid scoop baked in. Not intuitive at all. I get a lot of them as supplied backline. It's s easy enough to zero the filters and boost some mids and I am happy.
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Played a gig a couple of years ago in a pretty good size pub/ music venue complete with acreage of stage to fit the whole 18 piece band, and dancefloor to match, but still a pub. Stage rig was 410 cab and 1000w amp. My band is used to playing that size as the village hall venues are not a whole lot bigger or smaller. Mainly with vocal PA and drummer with healthy kick. Bass for the band and the room is louder than I would like but it works. Enter soundmonkey with his subs. I turned my bass down and used a lighter and lighter touch, until I was merely brushing the strings, and he would just boost me right back up to blowing up the room, with almost nothing coming from the monitor rig. Same with the kick. The drummer got up and took the mic away. Lucky there was a DI send level on the amp which I cut off and we were back in business with no pop.
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One sub on the side just means that side of the room gets stronger bass. Giving it a wall to bounce off means it can get away with less power needed, or the other outcome involving bicycles.
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And yet they do because a giant big fat bottom is more desired than anyone would like to admit.
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Vertically Oriented 2x10 Cab - Front Ported?
Downunderwonder replied to acidbass's topic in Amps and Cabs
SWR Goliath JR. Eden. Trace Elliot 2x8, punches like a 210. Like they (mostly) said, doesn't matter sonically. Lows are non directional. Could be a proxy for extra width in a vertical cab to have stability and/or avoid muffin top. -
More likely 2/3 of 4 ohm rating. I doubt a 2x8 is going to impress though. A pair of them would start to boogie.
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If your amp has fx send return you only need a modest powered sub with a HF out to go back to the 112. You can be as loud as you need be.
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Used to. Whole band did. Backline was frontline, no vocals. Bass was highpassed ala Fitzmaurice and bit more so the kick sounded like a kick and bass still sounded like bass. One night the sub didn't get hooked up properly. Couldn't figure what was up with the bass at soundcheck. The other cab was highpassed another 10 or 20 hz higher than the bass so that bit was missing. Plugged in the sub and back in business. So the takeaway is, it depends how you roll.
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That is how an OM session I used to play at regularly got started. After a couple of years of me adding bass we had full band jams, sometimes with multiple percussionists (minus drum set). Sadly Covid did it in. Point being, an extra cab can come in handy, mostly for the extra height, unless actual drumset shows up.
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What on Earth is OM / co play? Sounds like dressing up as a guru to play bass to the dog and cat.
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Big gig coming up this weekend - gratuitous gear pics!
Downunderwonder replied to wateroftyne's topic in General Discussion
Gots to be some Dire Straits in an AufWeidersen bash. -
Cocaine being dispensed at the bar perhaps.
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How very diplomatic!
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An all tube 200w amp, no hiss, pops or squeaks, for around about 70 quid because nobody else wanted to give it a home.
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Congrats. You have learned how to operate gear.
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New amp and cab for under £1000 - advice please!
Downunderwonder replied to HP BASS's topic in Amps and Cabs
The other thing to do should already have been SOP. Loop your cable through the cab handle before inserting in the amp input. Very much harder to do any damage. -
I am more a flavour of last century kind of buyer.
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New amp and cab for under £1000 - advice please!
Downunderwonder replied to HP BASS's topic in Amps and Cabs
I think with the class D stuff you mostly have to eat the fact amps aren't that fixable anymore. That's not to say they can't be fixed but it often involves spending more than they are worth. Even more reason to buy a lightly used one and hope for the best. Save some more for a spare you can leave in your glovebox. -
New amp and cab for under £1000 - advice please!
Downunderwonder replied to HP BASS's topic in Amps and Cabs
Gets you way much more for your money! People are always trading in on the next new thing.