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Flats are great for bedding a bass part in a mix nicely, live or in the studio. You get a lot less finger noise when playing and they have a 'fundamental' sound to the note with less of the high end content you'd typically associate with roundwound strings. They're typically thought of as a step in the right direction to getting a vintage bass sound but I've found they have plenty of uses in modern music too that haven't been totally exploited yet. Downside to them is that they don't sound a thing like roundwounds. I would argue that you might convincingly make roundwound strings sound like flatwounds but this isn't true the other way round for a few different reasons. Slapping doesn't sound good on flats in my opinion, although it's been done a lot by guys like Chuck Rainey and others back in the 70's and 80's. They can also be a bastard to EQ in a boomy room, same goes for the sound guys that might not necessarily know what they're doing as well. It's possible to loose note definition in the wrong environment. That being said, I'm almost exclusively using flat wound strings now as I'm no longer interested in having a modern sound. I keep my Jazz bass strung with roundwound strings as I like the versatility it offers me when I dep with other bands but for my original recording work and live work, I only use flatwound strings now.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1406923424' post='2516005'] Not sure why you fall asleep ( that's if it is the Nancy Sinatra version). Two Basses on that version to keep you awake, played by two top in demand players of the time (Carol Kaye & Chuck Berghofer). To be honest, it's just a typical pop tune of that era. [/quote] The bass part is perfect for the record and the two players are (were) well established LA musicians but that doesn't necessarily make the part interesting to play sometimes. I've played parts that I've written personally that bore me live, other nights they might thrill me. A lot of it is about context of the gig and the musicians you're around. Just IMO! Playing the same thing night in night out can be boring, even if some people won't admit to it

Cool I'll check it this out, still one of my favourite bass players at the moment.

The review was funny I thought, didn't take it overly seriously and it's hardly surprising The Quietus found the new Coldplay album to be sh*t. I've not listened to the whole thing, only a few tracks. It's tame, they've managed to succinctly rip off Bon Iver in one tune as well. It pisses me off most that they're masquerading as a band still, as I'm pretty sure Will Champion has got his drums in storage and Johnny Buckland has burnt his guitars and bought a bunch of sequencers and Pro Tools plugins. There's considerably better music out there right now though so I'm indifferent.

[quote name='chardbass' timestamp='1400161115' post='2451318'] Still coming down after seeing these guys on Saturday. What a great vibe- the drummer was sensational (Robert Searight?) and Cory Henry is the coolest cat on the planet. [/quote] Cory played drums for us all the other night, disturbingly he's probably as good as Sput was. Unbelievable drummer too.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1400088470' post='2450664'] I would love to tell you some of my Glastonbury anecdotes, but it would undoubtedly lead to me getting banned from Basschat, and I would have no right to complain. Suffice to say I will not be going this year or any other year. Apropos of all this, some spontaneous footage from the Dutch equivalent of Glastonbury: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6f9TyXNs6w[/media] What is it with Dutch people and toilets? Anyhow, I just hope the poor fella wasn't doing the catering. [/quote] Too funny! I saw way worse stuff than this last year in the Glastonbury toilets.

A friend of mine let me borrow his Smith to play for a gig I did in Geneva last month, nice bass but I wouldn't like to own one. I don't gravitate towards most 'high end' stuff and as I've progressed through my 20's my tastes are so completely basic now. It's pretty much old Fenders that do it for me, might change in the future and I'm open to it. Ironically it was when I was younger that I always dreamed of owning a Fodera or something like that, it's taken age to realise I wouldn't benefit from owning one and don't have any interest in them. Frankly it's totally fine with me if someone chooses to spend a lot of money on a high end instrument. Whether they can play or not (or whether they're a postman or not), if they derive the same satisfaction that I get every time I pick up a P-Bass then that's cool. There's loads of bitterness surrounding the whole issue on either side of the fence. [quote name='Weststarx' timestamp='1400075284' post='2450478'] Nothing to do with basses but I have a cheap Yamaha acoustic that I brought for about £150 and the guitarist in my band said it sounded better than his Martin which are up there in the 100s. Then again I personally think Yamaha make some absolutely outstanding instruments for the prices they charge. [/quote] My Japanese and inexpensive Squier P-Bass sounds like the best P-Bass on record that I've ever owned, and I've owned a lot of them now. Cost me £50!!

Saw them last night in Liverpool. An amazing live act with loads of energy, the level of musicianship isn't parallel with anything I've really seen before. Just unreal. Cory Henry on keys and synth really stole the show. We all went up to bar across town where a few of our mates were already doing a gig, the Snarky Puppy lot all followed us up and jammed for about an hour over some Prince and MJ tunes, we all ended up getting mighty drunk with the lot of them. Spoke to Michael League for a while probably about nothing, but they were all so personable that we ended up having such a big laugh with the lot of them. Excellent night!

[quote name='Number6' timestamp='1399849011' post='2448396'] Metal is rubbish.....again :-( seems a fairly common thread throughout the forum.....oh dear [/quote] I don't understand metal and didn't grow up with it so whilst I certainly don't hate metal, it would be more truthful to just say I don't understand or enjoy it. I still like a lot of heavy electronica which would probably rival certain types of metal in some ways! Back to the OP, I picked up guitar a bit first and then shifted to bass not because I thought it would be easier but because I honestly thought it was cooler. Everyone wanted to be a guitarist when I was 12 so for me it was way cooler to be different and play the bass. Turned out it's easier to get gigs nowadays too! So maybe approach it from that angle.

Excellent basses, I've owned one myself too.

It's stupid they've been booked and the headliners are weak but you don't go to Glastonbury knowing what's on anyway, you've got to hope for the best when you buy the ticket. There are 200+ other acts on so I'm sure those of us going who would rather take a pickaxe to the head than to see Metallica will find something different to do.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1398863429' post='2438396'] Smiths were great but Morrisey is a grade A tool. [/quote] +1. Actually, he's just amazing at the self-promotion thing. It's the people that take him too seriously that proves that he's still working his magic.

[quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1398707856' post='2436822'] I've gone from years of using steel roundwounds to now only wanting nickel rounds and I won't go back... however, when it comes to flats, steel is just fine (I've yet to see nickel flatwounds anyway). [/quote] Thomastiks are a nickel wrap with a steel core I think.

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1398708455' post='2436830'] Spot on, and when you hear that song, it still sounds as good as when I first heard it (despite being of an era) Put that next to Sunshine of your love or Communication breakdown and I seem to find the latter two boring and hard work although I was raving over them at the time. Just part of getting old maybe? [/quote] You have to then remind yourself though that early Zeppelin led onto stuff like this later on though, which in itself is amazing [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4v-_p5dU34&feature=kp"]https://www.youtube....dU34&feature=kp[/url]

I wasn't around in the 60's and 70's unfortunately but I love those guys for the simple reason that they could write a song. I think the 'Easy Listening' label does a lot of writers a disservice because it cheapens their talent considerably. I mean, imagine writing Wichita Lineman. What an incredible song.

I own both but I'm really heavily leaning towards P's at the moment.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1398618710' post='2435797'] Like down the local watching any pub band play Sex on fire! [/quote] Aye! Not to offend the Metallica fans of course, but to me they're so uninspiring and don't belong anywhere near that Pyramid Stage, not in any traditional Glastonbury sense. But then the whole experience was never meant to be about the headliners!

John Paul Jones covered a lot of bases with Led Zep, doesn't make him a 'better' musician, just that he played a lot more instruments than anyone else. Same might be said of Macca. But I agree with everyone else saying that it's a bit of a daft question, bands are the sum of many parts regardless of one individual's technical or theoretical level.

Emily Eavis has denied the rumours categorically which almost always means it's not going to happen. Even if they were to do it Glastonbury isn't the kind of festival you do for financial gain, at least not in an up front payment. C.D sales usually skyrocket but Liam wouldn't benefit so much from that because his name is only on about one or two of the writing credits. Metallica still slated heavily for Saturday night headline slot which I couldn't be less excited to see if I tried so I'll most likely be elsewhere watching something a lot better!

All of the above, Matt Unamov in Greenwich is worth stopping off at if you like vintage gear. Guitar Center on 14th St is also stupidly good for vintage gear, if a little pricey but you get charged a premium for just buying in the city anyway.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1397925440' post='2428724'] I can't see any problem with the advert. [/quote] I see the 'root notes only' thing if it's being used with a genuine understanding as a pretty closed off musical mind, that to me is a serious problem.

I can understand why adverts like this are considered condescending towards bass players, but I think it's even more simple than that. It betrays the advertiser as a total amateur who probably can't be trusted to make real musical decisions or have any kind of musical mind of his own.

[quote name='Raggy' timestamp='1397724033' post='2426737'] Cracking basses, nice one, looks better without the pick guard i think [/quote] Thanks! Yeh I think the no pick guard was a good shout.

I must say I've also had the same hit/miss Sadowsky ratio whether it be with NYC's or Metros. Some I've enjoyed, others not so much, regardless of the place of manufacture.