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Robbie Shakespeare's definitely the most influential Bass player for my playing and producing and I'm pretty certain I've spent many more hours listening to his basslines than anyone else's, they are a lesson in everything I find great about the sound that a Bass guitar can make and how it can drive a song without needing to be flashy. When I think about it, he's probably had quite a big impact on my life in general - possibly more than any other musician. So yeah, I'm gutted about this. RIP.

Nice one, that's it! Big tune. I had it in my head and spent about half an hour going through tunes to try and find it - was really bugging me.

Can anyone I'd this bassline? It's dubby, has horns. Voice 001_sd.m4a

Yeah, unless it's a particularaly cheap Bass then I've always gone to collect seeing as they are quite big/heavy and relatively delicate things to be posting around and are quite valuable, and there's always the chance of them not working properly so I'd prefer to try before buying. The same goes in reverse for selling second hand, I'd prefer not to put it to chance of getting lost or broken in the post of the buyer deciding that a small scratch means they want a refund etc.

I suppose in the end it worked out but certainly wasn't as straight forward and hassle free as returns to shops like Andertons or GAK. I'd probably avoid using Bax if I thought there was much chance of wanting to return the product for a refund.

My Bax purchases/delivery have always been fine. It took a fair bit of chasing-up over quite a few weeks to get a refund on a return once though - it came through in the end though.

I suppose half heartedly posting on Basschat for the sake of argument isn't quite on the same level of sailing to America to talk at the UN and dedicating my life to it.....not far off though!

Yep. It should be considered to a certain extent. But that's a falacious argument. The question I'm putting forward is: Does owning lots of basses damage the environment and should it be a consideration in how many basses you chose to own? Saying 'other things damage the environment too' or 'you damage the environment too' doesn't answer that question.

An interesting side-note to today's diversion is that I suggested in a half-hearted and un-personalised way that as well as the 'er indoors and financial considerations already given to the 'How many Basses' question is that perhaps the environment should also be a consideration when thinking about how much un-necessary stuff (Basses or otherwise) is consumed, and the whole attitude to over-consumption and obtaining lots of unnecessary 'stuff' is a bit dated. It's unexpectedly given me a small glimpse into the world of Greta with a few of the responses being summarised as: Atack the messanger rather than the message: Lighten up and take a joke. Stop being a hypocrite, and stop putting your middle class guilt on me. Attack the message but not with facts - with fatalism and 'keep business as usual' to avoid making inconvenient changes: I could stop buying certain things but what about the economy. What I do doesn't count enough to consider changing my actions. ...and of course plently of well-reasoned logical responses pointing out that amount of Basses you own shouldn't be very high on the list of priorities if you want to help the planet. (Which I agree with, it's mostly the principle of over-consumption that I'm debating, I'm debating really is that in a thread of 'how much unnecessary additional stuff should I own' perhaps people should at least consider the environmental impact as well as the impact from your wife's foot).

The point is that it's everything that needs to be considered - including things that seem insignificant like Laubndry Basksts and Basses, because it all adds up.

Fancy. Are you known as '2 baskets'? Too late, it already has!

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This is all true, and like I say - I'm mostly saying things for arguments sake and I certainly have lots of un-necessery stuff. Having multiple Basses is going to be very low down the list of un-necessary things that damage the planet, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered at all. It's more about overall attitudes to consuming I'm on about, I think the 'look at all the 'stuff' I have accumulated will become quite an old-fashioned attitude over time. On the second-hand thing, like I said earlier - if you buy a million second-hand Basses it just means there is now demand for a million more Basses to be produced as a million have been made un-available to others. It's good that a Bass is something that lasts and can get traded onwards but buying a second hand one doesn't mean there's no environmental impact....admittedly it makes the impact much lower than if they had a short single-use lifespan and I doub't even Thunberg would say people shouldn't get a second hand Bass because of the environment, she might say people should consider the enviromnment a bit in their consumer decisions though, and perhaps that it should be a consideration when looking to get that 20th Bass to sit on your wall - partly for the environment and partly due to changing attitudes about over-consumption.

Seeing as a previous poster took it that I'm not able to respond to flippant remarks I feel I need to start this reply with 🤣 LOL etc. and to explain that I understand that is a joke. ....now that's clear and for for sake of discussion I'd respopnd by saying: It's the principle though isn't it? If people don't have the mindset to consider that the extra Bass or Laundry basket has an impact on the planet then that attitude probably extends to what food they eat, or having an extra car, or long-haul flights etc etc. combine that attitude to over-consuming and 'what I do doesn't matter' across a population of billions and it makes a massive difference. I'm saying these things for arguments sake and don't fully sign-up to that thinking, but I do think times and attitudes are changing. It's probably quite telling that the average age on Basschat seems to be 50's + , I imagine if this was a forum with teenagers on it a lot more would be agreeing with my comments.

Maybe, just maybe I was just providing a light hearted retort with a highly exagerated example to what I assumed to be a flippant remark.

Still though, if you and I bought a million used Basses each it has an overall environmental impact - it creates global demand for 2 million more Basses to be made.

The argument for the Laundry basket would be that you probably only own one and it does have a practical use and probably hasn't made much of an environmental impact. Yeah, I imagine the environmental impact of producing a Bass is relatively small - but not insignificant given that it needs quite specific wood (lets not get started on that though!) and metals to be mined, manufacturing, transport around the world of of something relatively bulky etc. Something at least to slightly consider - consumer choices do all combine to make the world we live in, everyone making small changes would have a massive impact. That same argument of 'buy unnecessary stuff or people will lose their jobs' could (and often is) said for over-consumption of anything. Just because people buy fewer unnecessary things doesn't mean that people lose their jobs, there will be more money available to buy sustainable and necessary stuff - perhaps at more equatable prices that reduce inequality around the world.

For the sake of breaking up the echo chamber love-in with an opposing view: Inequalities and over-consumption are two of the biggest problems on the planet, this thread indirectly celibrates both. It's might be small change to your environmental impact to have one Bass rather than dozens but it's more about the attitude and considering perhaps its not the best thing for the planet and fellow humans to over-consume. And perhaps as so many people struggle to just get by in the world it's naive or selfish to celibrate that over-consumption. (I'm saying this for the sake of argument, I have lots of unnecessary stuff - including more than one Bass).

I bought a Kalimba from you with disconts on Black Friday, it arrived today and is a nice piece of kit - great value.

Isn't the actual Bass (as in neck and body) just one relatively small piece of the tone? Personally, I choose a Bass mostly down to erganomics as the tone can be altered a lot via technique, strings, setup, pickups, preamp, EQ, pedals like compression and drive, and amp +cab choice. Perhaps that's a bit 'Triggers Broom' though!

^^^ There's also the 'Basschat swingers' aspect with a lot of pedal trading between members of the Fourm. The pool of pedals available (and the selling price history and amount of group-think hype or downplay) might not be representative of the wider Bass playing community.

Yeah you'd need to physically wire them up as an fx loop using the Stomp send/return sockets, then add an fx loop block somewhere into your Preset, then you can split the path ahead of it for parallel routing adjustments.