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Its amazing the way the brain slowly packs up. As a teen I could remember multiple sets with several different bands but now Ive got a job to find my keys in the morning. I used to read charts cause I had to but now if I do anything I'll sit down and notate as much as I can...(no easy task even with Musecore etc) Failing that then a chord sheet with miles of scribble all over it is also helpful. Good luck.

Old dead flats really are the best kept secret ever. Currently running two pairs of Chromes, one set pushing 20 yrs the other about 15. Superb gnarly tone, pure gold. YMMV.

Does everything really have to be learnt? Did Joni, Dylan, or Bowie have to consult a set of instructions? Formalising a process is the killer of originaity.

All Spotify has done is enabled the talentless to flood the airwaves with white noise. Back in the day you went to a producer/publisher and if ur stuff was dull and boring they showed you the door... Ive written "tunes" that back then didnt get a look in. Now I can put them up on Spotify and they're still crap.

Clearly no one here has worked in a pit. U turn up empty handed and all you get is a possy of disparaging looks... and rightly so. In the pro, semi pro world you have to take responsibility....double and triple check ur kit before hitting the road.

Well this is a debating forum so lets do that, and just to say. As far as Im concerned "hate" is somewhere I will not, and do not ever need to go. At the end of the day he's playing "bass". Ask Joe public what that is and u'll get a blank stare, Ask if they can hear it and the stare will continue. My point was does it maker any sense at all to use such insane technical talent on...."bass". Or have I got it al wrong and bass in the 21st Century isnt bass at all its something else entirely?

Im sure hes having a blast but what a waste of talent.. I mean its just bass huh. Here Iam trying like crazy to learn cello and I bet he could grab the thing off me and walk straight into the Albert Hall with five minutes practise. Hugely talented musician, extraordinary technical abilities and if he played a classical instrument he'd probably become world famous over night. I really do think he is that good.

Its debatable, every instrument seems different., My Sq CV 70's P has the most glorious thumpiness from C to D on A.

Tell me about it. When it came out I was in a three piece funky outfit sharing vox with the guitarist, tho he did sing the Lions share. We all thgt this would be fun to do but could he play and sing it? Nope. So muggins here spent the next few months torturing anyone who would listen. Thank goodness mobile phones were but a distant futuristic dream.

Thing is what tone are you hearing...studio? Live? I bet you anything u like he plays a bog standard J bass and that tone is all the making of the sound dude on the board... either in the studio or at the festival.

Ears are weird huh. Im the opposite. Tinnitus but my ears have become increasingly more sensitive over the years... I have to have the TV turned right down almost.. Screaming kids and crashing cymbals will see me hiding under the stairs...its all pretty annoying. Have to say tho the purple heavy duty plugs are the only things that work for me now and Ive tried those fitted ones too...but not good enough.

Yep he really is a difficult person to like even tho we all love him and how he changed everything. Look at the way he treated Woody on that US tour.. and others afterwards etc. I think its fair to say he used people for their talent and then he'd move on. Anyway back to the thread. How'd he sound with that P bass thu that little Ampeg setup...I kinda know but would be intereetsing to know from someone who was there.

Im 64, with the same story.. If and when I get a rare call to dep for anyone now I use the purple silicon 35db industrial ones and I dont care how stupid I look either. Dont mess about, its only gonna get worse.

Haha... and I dont fancy the pong in the store either with a bucket of old chicken fat smeared all over the board.."Its the grease that keeps the funk" or words so to speak. Quote from Jamerson. Anyway just had a listen to Darling Dear....so busy but so darn musical...genius.

Stones Exile of Main Street doc last nite. The orginal bad boys in all their gory detail....Ahh the good ole days when it was all new and crazy.

Jamersons story is a damn sad one. Early 70's and everyone in LA where he'd moved to was getting into rounds for more snap and bite and I think was Chuck Rainey gave him a pack and he binned them.. it was from that point on that work dried up and his decline started. A signature P bass per se wouldnt be much good. It was a standard 60's P bass with around 5/16ths at the 12th....virtually unplayable but as an upright player he found it easy.

Complete opposite here. Played a Ray from 80 to 89.. was never happy, always seemed lacking somehow. Took a break for a few yrs then bought a P bass and its been P basses ever since. A Ray does what it does but for me it lacks that final bit of heft, especially once u get ur technique sorted. My CV 70's wearing dead Chromes is a thump and punch machine all day long.

And there it is, exactly the reason its all gone to pot. Back in the day you had to prove to an established old school producer/publisher you had something special. I was in a prog rock band back in the late 70's and we had some really nice tunes.. demos the works but could we get a deal.. nope... Truth was we just weren't quite good enough, couldnt quite write the catchy single they all wanted. So, all that work, expense... 1000's of gigs and it all added up to zilch cause we just didn't have it. Yet nowdays as you say anyone can "launch" an excuse for a tune.. Trouble is "anyone" ...........aint got it either.

Even 40 odd years ago unless you were prepared to be out every nite all nite, making money from this game has never been easy at all. The only peeps who ever made money from music were "pop stars" successful producers and the impressario types who made it all happen.

Tha FGH tone is pure ole school P bass and SVT Peg, tho I spect its an app or something nowdays, but yes about as far away from ur lush bedroom tone as its poss to get..with very little boom.. works a treat. Anyway this thread has drifted somewhat, still a good read. As you were.

Around 85-86 a lot of jazzers thght they'd have a go at being current with the crowd so they stated cranking the snare drum.. the very worse case was a Chick Corea album I bought where the snare dominated in the most awful way (that album disappered from view and Ive never heard it played since) and thats exactly what we have here. Loud snares... so irritating.

Yep that was me...haha. I dont know what they use but they do play a lot of old tunes too, and as Ive said before its really noticeable. Anyway yes Im an old winge bag stuck in the 60's/70's but then so is Rick Beato and he literally has millions of peeps agreeing with him...and that includes young people too.

Ive wrestled with that question for years and Im not sure it holds up very well. My parents were brought up on classical and jazz, plus they were kinda a bit Victorian anyway. When Elvis hit they were appalled....and they remained appalled with "modern noisy pop" for ever. I meanwhile was brought up with 70's pop rock and punk music that was genuinely modern, noisy and dangerous, and yeah I listen to todays stuff and it just sounds flat to me, not dangerous or noisy, just not very musical.. there you go. Put it this way. yet again Im hearing more and more TV/internet ads aimed at "young people" and using pop music from the 70's in the soundtrack. Where's the Adeles, Sheerans, latest boy/girl bands in all of this? Im not hearing them. Ad peeps aren't stupid, theyre using these old tunes cause they are bloody good, simple as that.

Say that over on TB and see what a to do it'll cause. 'They dont it up em Mr Mannering'..haha

I'll take technique and experience over just about any tech/materials, all day long. For eg, when I started playing P basses 45 years ago I couldnt get them to work at all... mushy, boomy, indestinct..I couldn't make it work. I play a VM P bass now with its stock PU and I can make it punch and grind like crazy. Technique/experience.