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[quote name='Phil Adams' timestamp='1377859409' post='2192822'] How accurate are modern electronic tuners anyway?? Do they vary?? Do they suffer from hot or cold?? [/quote] I have a Fender pedal tuner, an old Korg AT-12 , and a tuner in my Tascam GTR1. The Marshall and the GTR1 always disagree by a bit (not actually audible, but shows up when you swap tuners).

Struggling to understand this a bit. However good the bass, however tight the tuners, surely the ambient temperature will affect the strings directly? (All my basses stay pretty well in tune when kept at home). I did a physics degree, but I can't be arsed to work out what effect say a 20 Celsius change would have on a steel string.

I've got a MIM Urge Mk1, and it's a brilliant bass. Sadly don't play it so much these days as I reach for the 5 string more.

Actually having listened to it all the way through.. I quite enjoyed it. Beats a slap fest or a single bass doing a solo of the same length any day of the week.

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Boz Burrel's so good he's in there twice.

Beats doing the same thing with looper though!

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[quote name='thebrig' timestamp='1377676776' post='2190099'] I remember borrowing £15 off my sister to buy my first ever bass in 1967, which was a second-hand Burns Sonic, and it took me 10 weeks to pay her back, luckily, it was great, but if it turned out to be rubbish, I would have been gutted! Today’s equivalent would be a kid spending £200 on one of his bodged up guitars, and then finding out it was virtually unplayable, and it would probably take the kid a long time to save the money for another one. Ok, we are only talking a couple of hundred quid for his disasters, BUT, for some people that is a lot of money. Most of us have probably seen “Watchdog” and “Rip-Off Britain” where they highlight individuals who are conning innocent people, so why should we not do the same, and as MistyFingers says: [b][i]“And as a public service, if the threads here prevent one naive bassist in the making from buying one of his basses and being put off for life, then it's a good thing, surely”.[/i][/b] [/quote] [size=4]There seem to be a load of people slagging him off for what he does, and I'd agree that some of his ideas and descriptions seem a bit odd, but has anyone here actually bought or tried one of his creations? Has MistyFingers tried one?[/size] So come on then- Someone own up: Who here has actually bought or tried a Mark D Phillips' guitar and can say thus categorically state that they play badly, or don't work? If not then how can we possibly comment on them??. It just seems to me that there is a mob mentality at work here, Someone slagged this person off so let's all jump on the band wagon and take the piss out him as well. [size=4]After all he straightens necks, he polishes frets, he adjusts bridges and nuts, which are all things that a 'luthier' would do. How well he does these things cannot be judged by photo's on E-bay (well I can't tell from pictures anyway).[/size] [size=4]OK, he then does things like leaving holes where he's reduced the number of strings or taken pots out, which are things that a luthier [/size][size=4] (or indeed most people) [/size][size=4]probably wouldn't do.[/size] [size=4]I am not saying that he does a good job, or a bad job. I really don't know, but does anyone here actually know, from hands on experience? If so please speak up.[/size]

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1377610553' post='2189343'] [size=4](Can a carcass be alive BTW? And is this Phillips geezer dying or something?)[/size] [/quote] 1: I wondered if you'd spot that one. 2: Not as far as I'm aware but the way we are tearing into him conjures up the image of the vultures around a (this time completely dead) corpse. [size=4][quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1377610724' post='2189347'][/size] [size=4]I see a fairly simple solution - don't read about it or join in! A bit of harmless fun, plus of course the tool deserves it.[/size] [/quote] Yeah, I guess. I'll just walk by on the other side of the road and hope the BassChat mob never come for me..

Personally I'm starting to feel a bit uncomfortable with the amount of slagging of that we give this bloke here. I'm not in anyway defending what he does, but some basschat members are starting to act like a flock of vultures fighting over a not yet dead carcass, or a gang of playground bullies, in their eagerness to get in and give the bloke kick when he's down. Not very edifying, and In my opinion this is not basschat at it's best.

I think there's a thread about lead length & tone in the technical forum. Basically the 'Buffer', as in most active basses, will have low output impedance, so any capacitance in the lead after the buffer will have little filtering effect. With a passive bass the output impedance is far higher and the combination of resistance and cable capacitance acts like a low pass filter. Good cables have very low capacitance anyway and so are less affected.

[quote name='Ant' timestamp='1377082473' post='2183045'] only issue with my cab is that i wish i'd had money at the time to upgrade to the grill cloth! [/quote] Am I the only one who prefers the look of a metal grill to a piece of cloth?

All very clever, but incredibly dull to watch. Give me a proper band any day of the week.

Surely, if you sell something to anyone at below the free market price, irrespective of how much you paid for it, then you are effectively taking money out of your pocket(/family coffers) and putting it into theirs. If it's a tenner then not a problem, if its £200 then I'd only do that for my immediate family. As for the idea of "wanting to get back what I paid": Never did understand that one. You buy at a price that you are prepared to pay, and sell at a price that others are prepared to pay. This may be more or less than you paid, but to think that you automatically deserve to get what you paid for it seems a bit odd (to me at least).

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1377387999' post='2187076'] The workers are cheaper so the quality control isn't up to the same standards. [/quote] Ouch!

The string spacing.

How racist is this: Naming instruments after terms of racist abuse! Musicman need to make a public apology for this.

I'd have thought cold water would be best for blood.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1376483833' post='2174565'] No doubt he is a great bassist and deserves all the credit he gets. However, the music on the clip seems to be more about technique/chops with little in the way of relating to an audience. I could not relate to it. YMMV. [/quote] Yep, he seems to have lost his way somewhere.

Possibly just the number of potential buyers on E-bay. I know BC like to think that all bass players come here, but the reality is probably that active members, who come here regularly, probably only number a few hundred. (Do we have stats on the numbers?).

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1376227423' post='2170995'] IHe was good in Wherever I Lay My Hat Though ....... the bass was right up there with the lead vocal as the two equally most important instruments in that song y'see. [/quote] Ah, but "Wherever I Lay My Hat" was a cover version, and so, according to many people here , can be of no value at all.

The solo at the start of "Handy". Love it, and often play around in the same vein (in private only), but never quite cracked it as such. Problem being that even if I did crack it when and where would you ever get the chance to use it?

I bought a second hand John East unit and thought it had a problem. He took it and checked it out for me free of charge (It was OK - my mistake, and I sent him a fiver for a pint anyway). Not quite your situation I know, but I got the impression that he is a very honourable chap, and that you'll probably be OK.

[quote name='Shaggy' timestamp='1375816318' post='2166144'] Seen Wilko with Norman W-R - absolutely fantastic, though Norman is probably the sweatiest musician I've ever seen..... I wish I'd seen Feelgood live though; been nothing like Wilko's manic chugging guitar paired with Lee Brilleaux's snarling vocals before or since. What a great and underrated songwriter Wilko is too! Interesting reference to Norman W-R's early influences here: [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/interviews/mickhawksworth3.php"]http://www.flyguitar...hawksworth3.php[/url] [/quote] Yes. For the Wilko set he only had a shirt on (yes- trousers, socks and shoes as well), but for the Blockheads he was wearing a suit, and the sweat came through the back of his jacket!. Mind you the effort he puts into his playing excuses a bit of sweat. On another note re Wilko: I hope that when I'm at that stage of my life I can continue to enjoy life and have a such a positive attitude as he does. Hats off to the man. In the words of Lister "What a guy". Interesting article here: [url="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/wilko-johnson-you-have-to-live-for-the-minute-youre-in-8744944.html"]http://www.independe...in-8744944.html[/url]