chris_b

Big stage rigs are just for show. The sound the musician is hearing will either be in-ears or monitors and the audience will only hear the FOH. If you have back problems you should stay away from 410's, but I'd also suggest if you're going for a 2 210 rig you should look at better cabs. There are 2 AE210's in the classifieds which will blow most 210's into the weeds. They weigh 40lbs each and as a pair will be loud enough for any band, (I used mine in an ear piercing Led Zep tribute band and owned the half stack guitarist) and they'll give you the best tone you or you're band have heard.

My favourite root note bass line [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKo80b-QfK0[/media]

Marky, you wouldn't have any problems. You wouldn't be overdriving the 210 and only putting 250 watts into the 410 isn't actually a problem.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1409770950' post='2543212'].... Get good ones; look after them. End of.... [/quote] There really isn't anything else to say.

Some are foam filled but my SKB isn't.

My objective as a dep is to play the numbers better than their guy does. Know the numbers, play with confidence and have fun.

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1409744067' post='2542831'] I think that answers my question. I didn't realise that they had cushioning built in [/quote] I carry my own gear these days so these aren't heavy duty cases, just the camera typre ones from Maplin.

My Thunderfunk looks like the day I bought it, in its 4U SKB case. My Th500's are protected in their foam filled aluminium cases. The only guys I've seen having gear problems on a gig are the ones who don't look after their equipment.

Smaller cabs are fine, but just because you have a big cab doesn't mean you have to be loud. A larger cab lets you be as loud as you want or need to be (why be any louder than that?), while maintaining your headroom (for quality of tone). More speakers gives you better tone and heft in the note. The Barefaced S12 and the Genz Benz STL 9.2 (both in classifieds) would make a fantastic rig.

Check out the Bergantino HS410 cab (in the classifieds), not far from you. If it's in good nick it'll be the best cab you'll hear for years.

I'd drive down to Bassdirect and look at the Bergantino NV412 (£800). That leaves you £600 for an amp in the BC Classifieds.

[quote name='Mark_ii' timestamp='1359155164' post='1951042'] ....I have found dark stages can be a problem on the odd occasion and these LED's seem to offer a solution for the bassist or guitarist.... [/quote] Dark stages are a problem. If you can't see your frets then you have a bigger problem, the audience can't see you. Your band should carry lights. You don't need a full lighting rig. A small 4 bulb box either side of the stage area will solve 99% of your problems.

This could be a problem if you play flat out, so how loud do you play? If you need more volume than the cab can manage I'd suggest you need to look for a different solution.

Adding the 210 version of your 410 is the least problematic thing you could do. If you want more than a 410 and an 810 is too much then a 610 could be the way to go. Your amp will put out 250 watts to each cab. As long as the 210 is rated for that then you'll have no problem. The extra volume you get out of the amp running at 4 ohm will be overshaddowed by the extra volume and tone you'll get out of using 50% more speakers. I don't know anyone with a 500 watt amp who is running it flat out but if you are you need a bigger rig, if you're not then you won't overload the 210.

If you want to reduce the carry weight to the minimum get cabs and an amp and a trolley.

I was watching a film on Bill Withers. He was asked why he stopped gigging 30 years ago. He said; "I didn't stop doing stuff, I just started doing something else." What ever your "something else" is, good luck, and have fun.

[quote name='Gunsfreddy2003' timestamp='1409322890' post='2538648'] they sound bloody great to me. [/quote] There is one in the classifieds right now.

Marc Pero usually plays an F bass.

There's a lot of Rocco on YouTube, including his teaching video. Everyone's on YT, even me, but I wouldn't recommend those videos to anyone trying to improve their playing.

No jam night is complete without some idiot trying to squeeze that last drops of mediocrity out of Red House.

[quote name='budget bassist' timestamp='1409145722' post='2536795'] It's an ashdown MAG 210, so about 30kg? They're not light. You reckon a 110 will be too bright? A trolley could be a good shout, but lifting into the car etc. would probably be the main issue. [/quote] A 112 would be an easy lift in to the car and 2 of them would cover any gig, and IMO would sound better than a 110 or 210. What's your budget? A Barefaced Compact is 26lbs and sounds pretty good as a 1 cab solution and there are several Bergantino AE112 cabs in the classifieds.

How much did that cab weigh? 30lbs is a pretty good weight for a light cab. Go for multiple 112 cabs. And get a trolley.

Peavey 15's are good cabs. I'd get a second one, then get the first reconed and use them as a pair. If the cones are moving as much as you say, you might need an SFX Thumpinator. Then you won't wear the speakers out in the future.

Don't worry, I can't play What is Hip at the TOP tempo either. But if I had to I'd play along with the number until I could do it. I don't know anything about Gary Willis but in the first place I'd be looking at the players you want to emulate.

+1 I believe when the controls are in the centre position the preamp is working (drawing from the battery) but isn't in operation tonaly, so it's possible active and passive should sound the same at that point.