Osiris

[quote name='Cuzzie' timestamp='1501797548' post='3347485'] Osiris - just get the MXR Bass chorus deluxe like i told you, there will be no disappointment, and i even comes with flange....... [/quote] Cheers Cuzzie but I I had a listen to the MXR but found it a bit too clinical for my medieval tastes. And it's about £100 more than the EHX and the Boss CEB-3, both of which sound more organic and warm to my questionable ears. Plus I have all the flange I can eat on tap

Looking to possibly get a relatively cheap chorus pedal to add to my sparse, boring utilitarian pedal board and like the sound of the bass clone from what I've found online. Anyone used one? What are your thoughts on it? Any known issues with it?

This probably won't go down too well with the recent resurgence in TE popularity, but having owned an SMX rig for several years I found it to be gutless and under powered and almost impossible to get a good sound out of. I bought a new 250 watt SMX combo and extension cab in the early 90's and used it for several years and in that time I pretty much grew to hate everything about it. There's been a lot of talk on here recently about how Trace watts are so much louder than everyone else's. But with 250 watts and two 15" speakers, I always felt like the rig was struggling to keep up with other people I was playing with. The SMX amps had loads of different controls but I just couldn't get a sound that I really liked from it. The pre-amp tube didn't seem to introduce any tonal colour and no matter what I did with the graphic, it still sounded toppy and was unable to deliver the mids and low end with any conviction. On the plus side, it looked great and the dual band compression circuit was really good. I'm not out to rattle any cages here as I know there's plenty of Trace fans still about, but my own experience is very much at odds with the highly regarded reputation that Trace gear has. Maybe mine was just a duff one? Who knows.

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1501401028' post='3344397'] Buggered if I can find the SLS head review Dan [/quote] Try this; https://youtu.be/NkHy0fVbtUU 😉

One very happy Magellan 800 owner here. In short, the amp sounds superb and is incredibly versatile, you can get everything from warm, mid rich retro sounds to modern, bright scooped sounds just by using the dual voiced contour control. My band covers stuff from the 60's to contemporary music and the Magellan handles it all with ease, it really is that versatile! In my opinion none of the YouTube videos that I saw do it justice, it sounds so much better 'in the flesh'. Other features in its favour (in my opinion and experience of course!) include; A great, neutral sound with no particular bias towards any frequency range, A simple but sensibly voiced and very usable eq, with frequency centres that are spot on for live work, The sublime drive channel is low gain with a subtle mid-bump eq and delivers a very convincing valve like warmth and just sounds right to me. You could ditch the Bass Soul Food in a flash! Heft. There, I've said it. Yes it's class D, no it doesn't have any valves or a big heavy transformer, but there is a real weight and substance to the tone. No unnecessary bells and whistles, just everything you need. It just sounds right. Here's some thoughts about how I feel it performed against a few of its peers - http://basschat.co.uk/topic/303884-amp-test-drive%3B-aguilar-darkglass-genzler-and-mesa-boogie/

My band plays a wide range of covers from 60's top modern day. I tend to play with a relatively flat eq and make any minor adjustments to playing position and occasionally panning between pickups on my basses that have more than one. I also use a bit of low gain drive, usually so low gain that I doubt anyone actually notices anyway! This gives me a good 'one size fits all' sound (with some subtle variation) that works well with everything. Our guitarist and keys players have dedicated sounds for different songs, so I like to keep the bass tone relatively constant behind them, and it seems to work really well across the board.

I seem to think that Dood is in that part of the country, he teaches so presumably covers soloing? Look him up on the Members tab and drop him a line and see what he says [size=4] [/size]

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1500185312' post='3336059'] Release the damn thing already so someone can tell me if it's remotely gigable... I never really liked the signature trace tone of old so I'm not bothered if it sounds nothing like that. [/quote] Same here, I'm curious to know if it can hold its own on an average pub gig as something like this could make for a small back up amp. Likewise, I was never a fan of the TE sound. Having owned a 250 watt SMX rig for years I realised it really wasn't for me. But I'm still curious to see and hear what the Elf has to offer.

Quick update; I whipped up a cable earlier, it's just over a meter long to use from the output of my compressor into the front of my amp. Doesn't appear to be noisy in the slightest even when giving it a good shake about! Did a quick A/B test against a proper instrument cable and there was no notice difference in tone, volume, noise or anything else. [size=4] [/size]

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1499775941' post='3333499'] Well as I said you're probably right in law (and if it came to it you would appear to have a good case). That said, given what has transpired why would you want to? I mean it's not as if the shop is trying to fleece you - in fact they're getting less off you than they might otherwise. If it is a case of sharp practice then it doesn't seem to be a very clever one. I don't think you're being unreasonable in wanting some clarification, but IMHO it comes across as a bit of a storm in a teacup. Not wishing to labour the point, but specifying an acceptable margin up front removes the issue altogether. [/quote] My first thought was that I was being fleeced, but that's possibly just paranoia Wasn't trying to kick up a stink, just merely relaying a seemingly related anecdote to the original posters experience. But yes, agreeing acceptable margins up front sounds like a wise move, albeit one that I clearly hadn't considered at the time

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1499770966' post='3333447'] As to the amp, there are a number of potential issues there that you haven't made clear. When selling gear on commission sales I always specify an acceptable margin - "accept offers within x% of the listed price" kind of thing. Technically you're probably correct, but ask yourself 'would I have accepted the offer if I'd been selling it privately?'. If the answer is anywhere close to a 'yes' then with all due respect what's the beef? [/quote] No problem, hopefully this will help to clarify your points; We didn't discuss acceptable margins or possible offers as I was assured it would go for the price that was suggested to me, and from that I'd get my 80% cut. It was discussed as though it was a done deal. In answer to the question 'would I have accepted the offer if I'd been selling it privately?' then the answer is yes as I still ended up with more money than I had initially expected for the old amp. The 'beef', is more of a feeling of ambivalence. Yes, I did end up with more than I was expecting from a private sale, which is obviously good, but I was also assured that I was going to get a set price, but the actual amount received was less £30 than that. I had been given a receipt for the agreed amount so just assumed that that was what was coming to me once the amp had sold. Am I being unreasonable? Is the receipt in any way legally binding? I wasn't asked if I was prepared to let the amp go for the lower price, and I don't know if it is their right to sell it at whatever price they want or whether they were obliged to check with me first? And that's the bit that galls me. If it is their prerogative to sell used items on other peoples behalf for whatever price they want, regardless of what has been agreed, and I'm ignorant of this fact then fair enough that is entirely my fault. So in summary, I got more than I expected, but didn't receive the agreed figure that I assumed I was going to. I genuinely don't know and would appreciate any clarification as to my rights, if any, in this situation.

I had a similar issue with Bass Direct a few months back. They took in my old amp to sell on my behalf (not as part exchange as I was told that I'd get more money if they were to sell it for me) to off set the cost of a new one I'd bought from them. Anyway, the amount that I'd get was agreed* and I was given a receipt for the old amp and the agreed sale price. *I was told that they they charge 20% for this service, so obviously I was to get less than the full sale price but my share of the money was still a reasonable price. The amp sold about a month later (I had to chase up my money from them about 3 weeks later, but that's another story) but when the money hit my account, it was £30 less than the figure that was originally agreed. I emailed to query this and was told something along the lines of "the amp sold for less than we expected which is why you have got less than the agreed price". I replied to that to say that I would have like to have been consulted about selling the amp at a lower price, but I didn't get a response. Now, I'm not sure where I stand on this. Were they within their rights to sell my amp for a lower price? Was it still legally/technically my amp? Does anyone here know the legalities of this situation? Ultimately, I still ended up with more money than I was expecting from the sale of the amp which was good, but the episode still left a sour taste in my mouth.

Hey Paul, see if you can find an old Dod Octoplus. I had one years ago and it tracked much better than the Boss (can't remember which model it was now) that I had at the same time. The Boss did both 1 and 2 octaves down whereas the Dod only did 1 octave down, but to be honest 99% of the time when you use it, you'll only really need 1 octave down on bass anyway! There's also a really good octave model (can't remember the name of that either!) on the Zoom MS-60B. You can pick those up used for around £50 ish.

Thanks for the helpful insight, folks. It sounds to me that the sensible thing to do is to whip up a cable or 2 and see how they perform in regards to any potential unwanted noise. The worst case scenario is that i end up having to buy a new cable so it's hardly the end of the world

Long story short, I need a new cable and looking through my box of odds and sods I found a suitable length of microphone cable - [url="http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/van-damme-yellow-tour-grade-classic-xke-microphone-cable-priced-per-metre-n64dl"]Van Damme 268-025-040 classic microphone cable[/url]. I've also got some spare Neutrik 1/4 inch jacks too. Can I make up a lead to use between the bass and amp with the above mic cable (and possibly another when using my pedal board)? If it's OK to do it, how would I wire it up as it has 3 inner cores (2 shielded and one that isn't) compared to the usual 2 of a regular instrument cable? Is there any reason why this would be a bad idea?

[font=Calibri][size=2] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Hey Zoe, how's it going?[/font][/size][/size][/font] [font=Calibri][size=2] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]The TC Electronics MojoMojo can do a really good fuzz tone if you crank the drive control flat out. The pedals voice has more low end and mid-range than something like the Big Muff too, so it sits in the mix better. You can pick them up new for about £40, less if you buy used. [/font][/size][/size][/font] [font=Calibri][size=2] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Give your old man a big sloppy kiss from me, he's stopped talking to me for some reason! [/font][/size][/size][/font]

Are you scooping the mids out of your sound? If you are, try eq'ing them back in as it'll make the bass appear louder and more prominent in the mix even though you're not actually turning the amp up. If you're not scooping your mids out, then I've got no idea!

[quote name='40hz' timestamp='1499190466' post='3329858'] I couldn't agree more with you about the EQ. This was my exact experience. Although I loved the amp and rate them very highly, they could do with the EQ points being jigged about IMO. [/quote] Yes indeed, it was a cracking amp, I really did enjoy the few years we had together. For my tastes they had the eq points for the high and low mids bang on, the low voiced perfectly for cutting out the boxy mids a little and I used to like to push the upper mids a touch to bring out the upper register notes.

I had a Mark II amp a few years back and the only thing that I wasn't keen on was the frequencies on the bass and treble tone controls. If I remember correctly, the bass eq was 40Hz and the treble was about 10Khz. I found these to be too wide and not particularly useful for your average pub/club/function gig. They're probably fine for recording, but for live work they weren't much use - in my experience and opinion that is. The bass eq was only ever really useful for cutting as boosting it tended to make things boomy, and the treble was so high that it didn't seem to make much difference (I was playing finger style with a more rounded overall tone). Re-voice the bass eq a bit higher, somewhere between 80 and 120Hz, and lower the treble eq to somewhere between 4 and 6Khz. That's be about right for me. Those people who want the wider frequencies could still boost them using the VPF control. [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1499081550' post='3328978'] Gain/drive, not massive amounts, but the ability to add in some break-up to the sound. [/quote] Absolutely, Lozz. Not a full on drive circuit as such but something lower gain and subtle, more akin to the drive channel on the Genzler Magellan 800 would be great.

[quote name='HazBeen' timestamp='1498846553' post='3327572'] And you could always set your Keeley Pro to hard knee and use it as a limiter to protect against spikes....! [/quote] I don't own a Keeley Pro but I have a number of other compressors and limiters to choose from [size=4] [/size] [size=4]Mcnach, good call on an HPF. I'll email the manufacture to ask if the amp in question has one built in as I can find no reference to one in the specs. I've got a Zoom MS-60B and I seem to think that there was a thread recently on that having an HPF in one of its models, I'll have look for the thread to see what was said. I can always run that in front of the amp if its suitable. [/size] [size=4]It sounds like I should be able to get away using the amp and cab together as long as I don't go mad with it, which I won't be! [/size]

I have dealings at work with a woman in the Philippines called Shiny Zhou. Makes me laugh every time an email pops up from her

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1498740304' post='3326732'] Does it come equipped with a volume knob? If so no worries. [/quote]

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1498738025' post='3326698'] If the amp you're looking at puts out 450W into 4 Ohms, it will probably only output 300W into an 8 Ohm load anyway.. Check the specs of the amp in question.. [/quote] The one I'm looking at puts out 800 watts at 4 ohms and 450 at 8 ohms according to the manufacturers specs online. My current spare amp puts out 450 watts at 4 ohms and around 300 at 8 ohms. Apologies for the confusion! The amp I'm thinking of getting is something small and easy to cart about which is the main attraction, but I want to be sure that it isn't going to be too overpowered that it could potentially damage the Mesa cab before opening my wallet. From what the guys are saying above, it'll be fine as long as everything is kept under control - which it will be

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1498733033' post='3326621'] Or you could sell the Mesa 1x12 cab and get a second hand BF1x12 that can handle 600W without breaking into a sweat (and maybe even have some change to fund your purchase of the new amp)? [/quote] Don't tempt me with any more new toys that I probably don't need in the first place