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[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1506417598' post='3378507'] These can all achieve a similar grit to the Phat Phuk: TC Spark (full size version, the mini one is clean with no gain control) Cheapest and most readily available option is the TC, it can hang with the rest tonally, a bit of a bargain really! [/quote] I briefly had the full sized spark boost and wasn't keen on the tone of the drive. Can't really put my finger on exactly what it was about it that I didn't like but it just didn't grab me. But that's not to say that it won't be exactly what you are looking for. However, I got much better results (for my tastes) with the TC Electronic MojoMojo which is fantastic at low gain for adding a hint of warmth/fur/hair/whatever you want to call it. The Mojo has a deep low end and loads of mids present too. I use if for dirty, vintage Geezler Butler style sounds . It doesn't really do the Tech 21/Darkglass scooped sound, it's pretty much the opposite to those tonally, but that suits my needs better. And best of all, you can pick one up new for under £50.

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1506349774' post='3378096'] Not sure i've picked up your reasons for changing but is the weight of the Mesa too heavy. You mention you are looking for a 1x12 one handed lift at 300W. I wouldn't have thought a 1x12 that heavy but i'm used to larger cabs. I've used the Berg AE112 cabs which are NEO speakers. Very lightweight and nice tone. I've also got the Markbass rig which is lightweight but i only use it on occassions where there are a lot of stairs to climb or long distances from car. The only thing i would say and its down to personal taste is that the lightweight speakers don't seem to have the same depth of tone for me. Its difficult to pinpoint exactly why that is and i've tried them with various different amps. They just seem to lack something. Maybe its down to them being too clean in comparison to my heavier cabs. Dialling the tweeter or horns down altogether does help tho. Its never been an issue out front and audience always seem to like the Markbass tone so maybe its just where i stand on stage that i don't hear. Think you should def try before you buy tho. Dave [/quote] My initial thoughts were that a 4 ohm cab would be louder than my current 8 ohm one as it'd be pulling more power from the amp. But reading through the earlier comments in the thread it seems that's not necessarily a correct assumption. Having pondered what those people with far more knowledge on the subject than I have are saying, my reasons have shifted slightly in favour of going for something lighter. I don't know the official figure for the weight of the Mesa, but my guess is somewhere in the region of 15 Kg. It's surprisingly heavy for it's size. My big cab that I use on pretty much every gig is a Tecamp M212 and that only weights about 19Kg, but it actually feels lighter than the Mesa. But whether that is because I am underestimating the weight of the Mesa or the 212 only appears to be lighter because it's twice the size (and therefore it's all in my head!) I really don't know The Tecamp has Neodymium speakers and I'm assuming that the Mesa has a traditional heavy speaker. Tonally, the Tecamp doesn't lack anything when it comes to depth of tone. I much prefer the sound of it to the Mesa which has a strong mid bias that I'm assuming has to do with it being a relatively small cab in comparison to the bigger one? I'm happy to be proved wrong on that assumption though Yes, I'll definitely try before I buy! [quote name='Steve Browning' timestamp='1506344414' post='3378048'] Keep the Boogie!!!! [/quote] What are your reasons for saying that?

[quote name='la bam' timestamp='1506291523' post='3377720'] Thanks. That's what I thought it might be. I was considering a ms60b just as an on off pedal for my synth effect rather than continually switching my b3 and using the chorus and drive from my amp. [/quote] If you just want to use it like that, as you would a 'normal' stomp box, then it'll be fine. I own both the B3 and the MS-60B. As others have said, for switching individual effects on and off, or changing patches the B3 is the one to go for. But for an individual effect/patch or always on sound, the MS-60B is perfect.

Start with everything flat (knobs at 12 o'clock, or graphic sliders in the centre of their range) and go from there. Make subtle changes and try to avoid anything extreme I.e. don't fully cut or boost any particular frequencies. And remember to cut as well as boost too, sometimes you can add what's missing by removing part of what's already there! As for cutting the mids, it sounds great when it's just the bass in isolation, but it makes the bass harder to hear when playing with other musicians. If you're in a band, go for a sound that blends with the other instruments even if the bass doesn't sound very sexy on its own.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1506185030' post='3376966'] I've been looking at these BF cabs lately as well, so tried a few out at the Gallery today and walked out having put down a deposit on a 4 ohm Retro 210. [/quote] Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it once it arrives

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1506165112' post='3376807'] If we have managed to establish, to your satisfaction, that there won't be much benefit in volume terms in switching from an 8 ohm to a 4 ohm [color=#ff0000][b]yes, I think we have[/b] [/color] [size=4]and you're after a quality light weight cab what about the BF Super Midget? [color=#ff0000][b]Great suggestion [/b][/color]At just 23 lbs and with 600W RMS (at 8 ohm) handling capacity and a 12" speaker I think it has all your boxes ticked? It will also be more transparent / less coloured than the more retro sounding BF 2x10 and therefore closer to your beloved Tecamp 2x12 in terms of not colouring the sound from your GM amps and it should be able to handle both the GM 800 as well as your back up GM 350 with ease.[/size] [/quote] [size=4]The shortlist at the minute seems to be either a Super Midget, Super Compact or a Retro two 10 - in no particular order. [/size] [size=4]The only problem at the minute is money, I've got a couple of substantial non bass related purchases incoming over the next months, so any potential change of cab would have to be by way of a trade, and I doubt many people are looking to trade their helium filled Barefaced cabs for the Mesa [/size]

[quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1506107592' post='3376570'] Ahhh - I understood (wrongly) from your OP that you had two reasons for wanting to change your Mesa: to get a 4ohm cab AND because you were struggling to lift it one-handed. Anyway, I can tell you that I definitely prefer lifting 7kg instead of 15kg nowadays . Just to add also that, based on my experience, I agree that the high efficiency of speakers like the BF 12" and 10" drivers makes the 8ohm versus 4ohm debate much less of an issue with a 300w amp. [/quote] My original reason was to get a 4 ohm cab (which looks unlikely now) but the weight factor has crept in almost as an afterthought after reading through the previous comments and looking at specs. I can still lug the Mesa about easily enough but am finding myself increasingly tempted by something lighter [size=4] [/size]

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1506095815' post='3376475'][size=4][quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1506096423' post='3376481'][/size] If he likes the sound of the cab he has, it would make sense to keep the 8ohm 1x12 & then if he has gigs that need more volume, get a 2nd identical cab. This would give a bigger perceived volume increase as there's more cone mass moving more air & it wouldn't alter the sound that he has just now. [/quote] But the 3db point is actually really helpful, thanks, and this is what I was trying to get to the bottom of. That much more "scientifically" illustrates that the benefit from swapping from an 8ohm to a 4ohm cab is going to be pretty small, which is what Chris was getting at. That says to me, no particular need for the OP to swap his Mesa 1x12 cab 8 ohm (which I understand separately from him, he really likes) for a 4 ohm version. He could consider swapping to a well designed 2x10 4ohm (or possibly 8ohm cab) which will both displace a significantly larger volume of air and, if it's a 4ohm, also have an additional small db (3db in our example) advantage, which together would start to stack up in volume / heft terms. [/quote] I'm quite happy with the Mesa so there's no pressing reason to change it. I was just contemplating moving it on for a 4 ohm cab on the assumption that it would be louder with the increased wattage from the amp. However, it seems my assumption is not necessarily correct and there are more factors that need to be taken into consideration. So I might just hang on to it now. Maybe.... One unexpected factor that has come out of the thread in favour of changing cabs is that of weight. I've no idea what the Mesa weighs but it's a good weight for its size, I'd guess around 15 Kg. I'm so used to lugging it about and haven't really thought about it before, but looking at the specs of the BF cabs, and getting older by the day, the appeal of something less than half the weight of the Mesa is very tempting.

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1506079499' post='3376292'] I don't know what environments the OP is playing in - but I'm using a 300W Tecamp Puma into a single BF One10 with a big band with over enthusiastic drummers and brass players. I have a second One10 but I don't often have to use it. A single one is plenty loud enough. [/quote] I'm mainly looking for something to cover rehearsals and possibly small gigs with my band - 5 piece rock and pop band with drums, 1 guitar and keys. We're not the loudest band in the world, but we're not the quietest either. So it's probably wise to think of it as more of a personal monitor than room filling backline. The more I look into the BF one 10 and two 10 cabs, the more they're looking like the obvious choice. I know a guy who has a pair of one 10's so I might just have to grovel and see if he'll let me test drive one against my Mesa. Are you reading this Kev???

There's some interesting, and very valuable, points to be taken into consideration in the last few comments. For context, it doesn't need to carry the room as such as I only currently use the Mesa for rehearsals. (Although it has done a couple of small gigs but always with PA support). My line of reasoning, which in light of the above may not be totally sound, is that having just acquired a new back-up/rehearsal amp (350 watts at 4 ohm) I'd like to get the full power out of the amp into a single small cab. But with the new amp putting out 175 watts at 8 ohm according to the manufacturers specs, the chances are that it probably is more than capable for what I want it for anyway. It certainly won't be getting to anywhere near flat out

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1505985724' post='3375609'] Barefaced Retro 210? [url="http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/retro-two10.htm"]http://barefacedbass...retro-two10.htm[/url] [/quote] Cheers Danny, that looks like a strong contender. [quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1505986928' post='3375622'] Tecamp, now Eich, offer their 1x12 and 1x15 compact cabs in 4 ohm versions. [/quote] My main gigging cab is a Tecamp M212 and is a thing of absolute joy, so a baby brother for it could well be the ticket!

[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]I'm thinking of changing my trusty Mesa Walkabout Scout 1x12 cab, 300 watts at 8 ohms, for a different small cab that is an easy one handed lift, something like another 1x12 but I'm keeping an open mind to different configurations. Must be 4 ohms and able to handle a minimum of 300 watts. Having had a few minutes surfing the usual retailers it looks like most small cabs are 8 ohm which is understandable in terms of building a modular rig, but I can't find anything that fits the bill with a 4 ohm impedance. Anyone know of anything that meets the above criteria? [/font][/size]

Just received my pickups back (even though I was in no hurry for them and hadn't emailed Alex and the guys to inquire after them) along with a nice sw***y looking Barfaced T-shirt. Cheers Alex, I hope they were of use to you in your tinkering, and like many guys on here I'm waiting to hear what you have in the pipeline

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1505820284' post='3374520'] There is also the question of how hard you play... I know some people like to tickle the strings, in which case a low action is more appropriate. But I tend to play relatively hard, whether with fingers or pick. I've tried playing softly and letting the amp do the work, but all that goes out of the window as soon as I get excited about something. Lack of control and crap technique, obviously. [/quote] You and me both But I like a low action and a bit of fret clank anyway.

Guns & Roses and Chic for me. I love Duff McKagan's melodic playing and Bernard Edwards has an amazing groove, but I really don't care for their main bands. Although I appreciate both have played with other projects.

Bruce Springsteen. Second rate pub singer at best.

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1505229182' post='3370388'] I feel that a review while I'm still in the honeymoon period wouldn't be right so I'm holding off for the moment, though I am warming towards it. As I've said, if I can get to the SE Bash I'll bring it along but I've other commitments on that day currently which I'm still trying to get out of. If I can attend it'll be available to whoever wants to give it a try and hopefully we can get some sort of consensus. [/quote] Wise words about waiting for the honeymoon period to end before objectively reviewing it. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, and those of other B.C. members too [size=4] [/size]

You say " ..... [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][i]doesn't have the classic warm TE sound we either love or hate[/i].... "[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Despite being very much in the latter camp (my personal experience of old TE gear being more bright than[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] warm) I'm still intrigued[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] as to what this little chap could potentially deliver especially at gig like volumes. [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]How would you describe what it sounds like, either compared to TE of old, or in it's own right? [/font][/color]

This is out little number - Candy Slam In answer to your questions; i) I cobbled it together myself mostly in my lunch breaks. I'm no graphic designer but I think that it conveys the fun vibe of the band. ii) Hosted on Moonfruit iii) Not sure how much of a real world difference it makes. According to the hit counter the site sees around 5000 hits a year so I guess someone must be looking at it. Most of our gigs are either repeat bookings, word of mouth of from people who have seen us play. The others in the band prefer to handle promotion via Facebook so it's a combination of factors for us.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1505128705' post='3369610'] Downloading Toneprints - yup I can see that works for both recording and rehearsals. But we would still be limited to one toneprint per set rather than being able to modify on the fly in a live situation - bandmates and audience aren't going to put up with us getting our mobile phones out, dialing the TC website, finding the right toneprint and then downloading in the middle of a set are they (particularly when they might not even notice the difference) and definitely not mid-song! [/quote] In that sense, it is no more limited than just about every other stomp box currently available, with a couple of exceptions

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1505126034' post='3369583'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]The TC Toneprint stuff has always intrigued me both on the sub'n'up and the Spectracomp. But my sense is that you need to be quite adept with computer software / IT skills to get into the detail of something like the editor software on Toneprint? So if you're not a dab hand at IT is the Toneprint stuff actually really easy to use?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]e.g. how much time did you have to spend in terms of connecting up the pedal to the computer, loading and editing the software, unplugging and re-connecting to try out on your bass and amp; keeping the sound you had just managed to achieve in your head whilst going back to the computer and reconnecting everything to make further edits to refine the sound. [Repeat] Until you have got the tone you like. [/font][/color] [/quote] You don't have to go anywhere near the Tone print editor software if you don't want to. I had a quick look when plugging my Spectracomp in and there are tons of parameters to configure and hours of fun to be had - but only as long as you know what you're doing. And I don't, so I backed out pretty quickly. But that's a limitation of me, not the software As long as you have a smartphone you have loads of different options to try simply using the free downloadable [url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/toneprint-app/"]Tone Print app[/url]. TC add new tone prints all the time too so you can completely reconfigure the tone and sound of your pedal in just a few seconds, it's so simple. That makes each and every tone print enabled pedal incredibly versatile.

I'm not sure what Ebay's rules and fine print say on situations like this, but my understanding is that if the seller hasn't put a reserve price on an item then they are obliged to let it go at the final bid price. Might be worth checking through their rules or at least opening a dispute? Incidentally, has the headstock been errr, upgraded?

That's a good thorough review Assuming the P pup is voiced like a traditional P then I wouldn't expect too much in the way of inherent top end in the tone anyway as P's tend to be more about mid-range punch than top end. But there should be more enough there unless you're looking for that glassy high end, in which case you probably wouldn’t have gravitated towards a passive P in the first place! Regarding the boomy mids on the 5th to 9th fret on the A string and weaker notes on the G, that sounds like it could possibly be an eq issue, perhaps? Dialling in a touch of upper mid may help to alleviate the weaker notes on the G string. If not, see if there's any way to easily raise the side of the pickup that covers the G string and just it up a mm or 2 to see if that helps? As for the problem notes on the A, maybe a slight cut of the lower mids might help calm things down? I'd try simple things like this before considering any drastic action!

[quote name='Cuzzie' timestamp='1504214041' post='3363512'] DR are good strings Tecamp Puma is a good amp, but I always feel it's a little too 'polite' in that it will never push itself forward in the mix, but you have great basses, and a great cab. Either a Preamp pedal or pick ups of your choice just may be your thing [/quote] [quote name='Cuzzie' timestamp='1504592517' post='3365820'] If vou like a sandberg try the VM, it may get you want you want [/quote] If you think the Puma is a little too polite, it might be worth considering changing the amp, maybe? My VM4 played on the neck pup alone punches for days and slices through the mix a treat.

I've just received a monstrous Peli type hard case from Dan for my musical odds and sods and the deal has been a breeze and a pleasure. As has been said many times already, he's a great guy, very helpful and friendly with his comms and was happy to answer a couple of quite daft questions from me before we agreed the sale The case itself is big and bulky and quite heavy considering it's basically a giant Tupperware box but it was very well packaged. It was also in as new condition as had been listed. Another [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]deedileee-doodileee and a big Magpie thumbs up from me [/font][/color]