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[quote name='bonzodog' timestamp='1371055997' post='2109268'] Cheers for the replies guys. I may never need it, but I would feel happier knowing I had a spare even if it was left in the car. I appreciate the advice on having similar sound to my main bass so may just look out for a good SH Tbird.......however as one poster already suggested there is an element in me that wants to convince myself that I need a back up just so I can go and buy a new bass. At least that's the excuse I will be telling the wife. If she knows its for gigs where I earn money to line her pockets, she seems to be ok with it! [/quote] Never EVER leave you gear in a car

[quote name='Oversoul' timestamp='1371036589' post='2108867'] Woa, ain't the SQ basses like, the dinossaurs of all Squier existence? [/quote] No, the JVs came first. If it is an SQ that's a wickid price and you should buy it immediately if it has no issues. It could also be a MIJ Silver Series which were excellent instruments (the SS text is on the part of the headstock you can't see in the photo, it would be worth about £200 if it is a Silver in very good condition).

Never used one. If I was touring or playing some big dates I would though. If it's just an emergency back up in case you break a string or the electronics fail or whatever, I'd get a cheap version of the main bass. What's important is that it sounds similar and has a very similar output level to your main bass. But do you really need one? If you treat a bass nicely it shouldn't need a backup really.

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1371045601' post='2109041'] The last gig we did where everything was going FOH I just played through my Zoom B3, DI`d straight to FOH, no amp. The sound engineer put the bass through the monitors and was literally amazed when I asked him to turn it down. It sounded great, but the vocs are the most important things in the monitors for our band, so less bass thanks. I could tell he didn`t often get requests to lessen things through the monitors. [/quote] I love working that way mate! It's so portable, convenient, controllable, and none of that massive bass flapping about on the stage. It's more akin to hearing your band on stage through a loud hifi, but more lofi That said, with London Zulu I will use a house bass rig if there is one because it's very dancey and those long repetitive pumping basslines are nicer to play when there's some low end on the stage. But for anything else, it's strictly POD and monitors only, for guitar and bass.

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1371040301' post='2108963'] According to Wikipedia, these are all "subgenres" of punk: 2 Tone Anarcho-punk Art punk Celtic punk Christian punk Cowpunk Crossover Thrash Crust punk Dance-punk Deathrock Digital hardcore Folk punk Garage punk Glam punk Gypsy punk Hardcore punk Horror punk Nazi punk New wave No wave Noise rock Oi! Pop punk Post-hardcore Post-punk Psychobilly Punk blues Punk jazz Punk Pathetique Queercore Rapcore Riot grrrl Scottish Gaelic punk Ska punk Skate punk Street punk Synthpunk Taqwacore Trallpunk Hmm... [/quote] I also had a look at the Wikipedia entry for Punk. It showed a picture of The Buzzcocks at Cropredy Festival WTAF?!

He made the cover of the free METRO paper today! That's bizarre innit!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1371039853' post='2108949'] Meshuggah? Regard them more as a sound dreadful, but its on purpose. [/quote] Don't think it was them mate, small venue, not a well known band.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1370976561' post='2108239'] Have it for free, mate (I am far left - age 17/18) [/quote] [quote name='grumble' timestamp='1370984119' post='2108380'] Now do the decent thing, post a larger version for a caption competition [/quote] Felixstowe residents campaign to get Spinal Injury hospice reopened.

My drummer saw a metal band a couple of weeks ago at a small venue and (apart from the drums obviously) the whole band went direct, no amps and cabs on stage at all. They all had digital modeling floorboards and used monitors for on-stage sound. He said the band sounded fantastic.

[quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1371030224' post='2108740'] Me too. Nearly all the sound people we have are nice and if treated with respect like a human being will help you sound better. There's only one we have at a certain venue once or twice a year who's a rude, know all little t**t. But we still smile and say great job. [/quote] Yeah we get the odd know-all / disorganised twat once in a while, but it's been rare over the past couple of years. For some reason I've had a few engineers who've been very wary of the POD when I've told them what it is. So now I just tell them I use my own DI box and all I need is an XLR direct to desk, they just say that's cool and give me an XLR, I got tired of explaining how the POD works, my own foolishness in thinking it was fairly common practice.

[quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1371028366' post='2108708'] I've always found that a little common courtesy and treating engineers like people with an equal interest in making the night go well works wonders. If you make an enemy of crew by being in the least bit prima donna like then you get what you deserve, which may well make for an uncomfortable ride. I have met careless and arrogant crew, but rarely. [/quote] Exactly, Jake. I always find them and introduce myself and offer to buy them a drink if it's appropriate, they usually get free drinks on the house anyway so you'll rarely be out of pocket but the gesture can go a LONG way to making your gig a pleasant one. I always thank them afterwards too.

Hail pilgrim, strap yourself in and enjoy the ride. As to learning your new obsession, my advice would be to get at least a few lessons from a good tutor to give you a head start, that's a BASS tutor, not a guitar teacher who thinks making a few bob extra teaching bass will keep his coke habit running freely. The benefit of even a few lessons will teach you how to hold and operate the instrument correctly to prevent bad habits forming (which might hinder your progress and put you at risk of strain injuries), adjust and set up the bass properly for you, and show you the fundamentals of music theory and playing a tune. A few lessons will give you some confidence and remove doubt about whether you are doing it right. There's a list of bass tutors on here with reviews from Basschat members [url="http://basschat.co.uk/forum/26-tutors-available/"]http://basschat.co.uk/forum/26-tutors-available/[/url] Bless up.

Interesting, thanks. It's the sort of thing that should be fairly common knowledge, but for some reason isn't.

[quote name='timmo' timestamp='1370988733' post='2108465'] Maybe Don Letts has the answer to what is punk :- For me, punk still works on a day-to-day basis. It's an ongoing dynamic, and, if you're brave enough and smart enough, you can be part of it. I could have chosen an easy path and followed the herd, which is very much in vogue now. Instead, I revelled in individuality. [/quote] He doesn't half talk a load of old caca sometimes

[quote name='marcus bell' timestamp='1370995529' post='2108551'] Shame really as I used to LOVE using this forum!!! Bass is such a great big part of my life, my main hobby and the focus of all my efforts!! [/quote] What's the problem old thing? It just a bit of ribbing, you can let it annoy and hurt you, or you can do what I do when I hit a little emotional disturbance like this, realise that you've made an impression on people, you are known for something, and as long as that's not going to hospital with a hoover stuck to your bell end, that's cool right? Chill out, be resilient and change what you think is a negative impression by being a cool muthaf*cker. Bless up. (I love this new phrase I just learned! )

This! Courtesy of bilbo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SHVmjFDkx0

Ahh you see! There is nothing I don't adore about the solo guitar at the beginning, but when he starts doing the ol guitar-bongo schtick and the ensemble stuff, that's when I start thinking 'oh Al, you old tart, you', and I quickly get bored because for me it has none of the beauty of the sublime solo guitar, and Pat Metheny does it so much better. But thank you so much for posting it, Bilbo, in recent memory NOTHING has inspired me to want to play so much!! Bless up! (That's a very charming phrase I just learned off a 16 year old rapper from the Acton 'hood I've been rehearsing with tonight)

[quote name='marcus bell' timestamp='1370993300' post='2108536'] It's not causing me pain it's just annoying that's all [/quote] Seriously, don't worry about it, it's all friendly You want to see 'annoyed'? Search [b]rslaing[/b] of these parts

[quote name='marcus bell' timestamp='1370993300' post='2108536'] It's not causing me pain it's just annoying that's all [/quote] Don't worry, tomorrow will yield another emotion

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1370972532' post='2108157'] I know what you mean, Skank, but, even in the early days, I was always about the music and I have always found that a good audience reaction has not worked for me if I think the music is pants. I also enjoy a gig where the music is great even if the audience is ambivalent. I remember at age 17 or 18 having an argument with the guitar player in NWOBHM band No Quarter about 'being taken seriously' as a musician. It was around a photo shoot where the photographer wanted us to wave our 'heavy metal fists' at the camera - I remember thinking we looked like a bunch of prats. I remember never wanting to buy 'pointy' basses that looked the part because I didn't think they were serious instruments etc. I just think I was always attracted to the art of it even before I knew what the broadest sense of the art of it actually meant. I have never 'posed' on stage and have never really had the impulse to 'entertain'. Now I am a published author/biographer, I have no interest in how many copies are sold, only that the book is making a contribution to the recorded history of the music. Not sure what all of this says about me but there you are. I would that I am not hostile to those who do want to entertain, to get the audience dancing etc and, if it happens, I get a buzz same as everyone else. My only issue is with the assumption that this is what all of us want from playing. It isn't. If I was offered a regular gig where the music was horrible but the audiences were potentially big, I would turn it down (I have turned down two tribute bands recently - Motown and Nat King Cole). [/quote] I know exactly what you mean, Rob. The best gigs I've ever had have been when the band is on form and we're enjoying the show, the audience is visibly enjoying it, and that I feel the music is 'good' (that's got to be a given for me, I will never get much pleasure from playing music I don't enjoy or think is 'good' whatever that means to me). There's a song I'll be playing on Friday that I can't stand, and even though it's an audience favourite, I never enjoy playing it. I think it's the bass and piano harmony, it's a unison line and it sounds empty and naive to me. That said, regardless of any musical integrity, I will try to be an entertainer if there's an audience, I will make that cruddy bass line mean something to me with accents and nuances and hopefully it will speak.

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1370971111' post='2108135'] It's not that. I don;t get the sense that you're challenging or debating or discussing anything. You just provoke by nitpicking minutia and I'm not in the mood to go back and forth. I explained myself. If you don't get it, you don't get it. . [/quote] Ok, if that's what you think. I won't question your thoughts and ideas ever again, I promise you.

[quote name='marcus bell' timestamp='1370967239' post='2108059'] the kingbass dream has taken a step back for the moment... ive started work on my old bmw project which is looking good so far by the way [/quote] What sort of band are you in, Marcus?

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1370962235' post='2107993'] sigh [/quote] You are totally crap at having a discussion aren't you. Why do you bother? You make intelligent pronouncements with some thought provoking insight and they are interesting to read, regardless of whether other people may agree with your point of view. However, if someone challenges your opinion, you turn into a wet f*cking flannel, unable to add anything of any value or accept and discuss others' opinions. Stop being a prima donut and DISCUSS stuff rationally will you ffs.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370960942' post='2107970'] I cannot help but wonder whether Marcus has some master plan regarding buying and selling basses that is so brilliant that I am unable to understand it . [/quote]

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1370960081' post='2107959'] Geez, lighten up guys. It's not a comment about celebrity,or fashion, or adolescence. [b]The "screaming girls" comment was rhetorical of sorts -- to suggest that something is just so moving or just so much fun, it makes you want to to react. THAT is a part of good music. [/b] True, something being popular doesn't necessarily mean it's good. But it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. And something unpopular doesn't necessarily mean it's just for sophisticated audiences. Sometimes it's unpopular simply because it stinks. [/quote] Mate, you don't really think it's the music those girls are screaming about do you? Seeing the fab four in the flesh makes real a year of freshly-pubescent fantasies, that's why they are screaming and fainting and knicker-wetting. EDIT: for the best typo I've ever made!