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[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1384362590' post='2275723'] Why do you need a medical? £500??? taking the P Get a medical from your GP. [/quote] Sounds like a disgraceful rip off doesn't it. It reeks of an exploitative 'strategic partnership'.

There are any amount of ways of creating backing on your own computer. Garageband, Reaper, etc. Get some free loops. You'll need too learn all this technology anyway so don't pay someone to do it for you. Go to the BC recording section for more guidance.

Playing any instrument well and developing taste and good judgement is difficult.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1384360628' post='2275698'] Do it. You could be a bass player in one band and a guitarist in another. I wish I played more than one instrument. [/quote] I'm a guitarist in another band and I love it. It's tricky music, hard work, high level of quality control and discipline. It's all music and I really hate all this more earnest disrespect of other instrumentalists from some on here who go beyond the lighthearted joshing. It's stupid. There are musicians in all disciplines with good and bad attitudes.

I found the one I had to be a bit of a handful. Nut width is a bit wider than a Jazz. The profile is like a slightly squared off D. It wasn't for me. But it was very nicely made.

I think I'd go for Hartke too. The ones I've played through sound really good, they were cabs though, with a Behringer head which ain't good with the Bughera cabs, but the Hartkes make it sound decent. I'm sure the bigger combos would sound really good.

Nearly there mate? Looking good

[quote name='mushers' timestamp='1384292739' post='2275025'] the girl with the stingray has massive ... large Facebook following due to her showing off her talents seems to be a competent bassist who posts pics of herself in a corset, don't get me wrong I'm not complaining [b]but i think the visuals are enhancing the playing somewhat[/b] [/quote] Only a bonehead can't hear past the visuals. Sad really init. But people SEE music really don't they. There's a lot of scenery around the youtube.

Thanks Debs and Clarky. It was a tiny party in a tiny place, but everyone was lovely and we had a lovely time Great to play new songs and I love doing harmony vocal! It's made a huge difference with four of us doing BVs. Cheers x

[quote name='Linus27' timestamp='1384274813' post='2274723'] This is a very good point and something I have been very aware of in the past. All the bands I have been in have always played originals. Covers just never interested me. I was fortunate enough to set a band up with some mates, who were all very hard working, dedicated which in turned paid off as we got signed and had a chunk of success. However, each band member had strengths and weaknesses. The singer/lead guitarist and I were the song writers. I would arrange and structure the song etc but would never interfere with the vocals, melody or lead guitar parts. The drummer and rhythm guitarist were happy to be led musically to the point of being guided or even told what to play. However, they did a hell of a lot of work behind the scenes like booking gigs, talking to promoter's, mailshots, photo-shoots, promotion and eventually dealing with the record company. This just made life so much easier as we could all trust and rely on each others judgements and we never got into arguments or bicker. Song writing was always a pleasure as Steve and I had the freedom musically. John and Sid likewise had the freedom to lead the band behind the scenes and it just so worked. We all knew our places and roles in the band and stuck to them. [/quote]were you in the Sex Pistols then?

[quote name='merello' timestamp='1384260099' post='2274506'] Is that Daniel Craig singing 'roxanne.'...... [/quote] that's what I thought too

What a nice review! http://hootingandhowling.com/single-all-heart-no-brains-kit-richardson/

I'm still a big fan of UFO, and Pete Way is a legend in the rock n roll lifestyle list Hope he gets sorted and back on the planks.

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1384241325' post='2274251'] No, you're quite right- some basses just have magic in them, some don't. No rhyme or reason for it I guess. I have got the GBR640 tuners on the list to counteract neck dive though, which they do. [/quote] Cool on the tuners. But the magic will be coming from you mate, not the bass

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1384213854' post='2274206'] I also love vintage fret wire, after it feeling weird at first. Now it's something I definitely look for. I had an Am. St. (2005) that I just didn't get along with. It felt too engineered, and I couldn't really connect with it. Everything felt hard, cold, lifeless- although it was very good, I hardly played it because of this. On paper (to make it easier), my design would look something like this: Extremely Lightweight body, with slim profile- (like my roadworn). Possibly ash. SD SPB1 pickup Vintage Bridge with threaded saddles. Gotoh GBR640's 1.625, possibly even smaller nut width. (1.615, similar to my Jazz bass) Soft V profile, from 1st-7th/9th fret, rounding out to slim C shape. Vintage fret wire, dressed down to flat top profile 7.25" fretboard radius Maple neck Nitro paint Colour not really important, but the AV '57 in White blond transparent has always floated my boat. Mild relic'ing on body, slightly heavier on neck- not really for looks, but so it feels more played in and comfortable, and so I'm not afraid to take it out and use it. Everything on that list I've tried and liked above the alternatives. I guess what you guys are trying to say, however, is all put together in one instrument, would it still amount to an instrument that felt really good to me? I don't know either. In theory yes, in reality I realise I could pick up a bass tomorrow with none of those attributes and absolutely love it. Hasn't happened yet though. [/quote] Honestly, I'm not trolling, but those specs are no guarantee of anything at all really. And neck dive with a very light body will probably put more strain on your wrist, forearm and shoulder.

Hello If you please, a free lossless download is now available on Bandcamp http://coolforcatsrecords.bandcamp.com/track/all-heart-no-brains It sounds really nice, much nicer than the Youtube sound.

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1384208634' post='2274123'] Nope, I just understand what measurements tend to work for me, and which have flared up tendonitis in my left forearm to the point of not being able to play without it feeling like I've broken my arm and the bones are rubbing together. I have agreed with most of what you have said, and I've taken on board the part about a perfect bass finding me. So much so that I feel it's probably a better idea to wait, and let something find me. Everything you get from your jazz is what I'd like to have. [/quote] Was your tendonitis diagnosed? Are you sure it's not tendinosis? The act of playing a bass is possibly the cause, and it will not really minimise risk if the neck measurements are slightly different. It would be more postural problems, the angle of the wrist and forearm, that would exacerbate what is possibly a chronic injury caused by excessive periods of Flexion and ulnar deviation, and possibly over-supination of the forearm. It's really more about what feels 'right' to you. Texture is even an important consideration in how a neck feels. It also depends on how the bass hangs on a strap and when sitting upright, or slouching on the sofa. The first fret can be further or closer, the neck higher or lower, different angles. What do you do most? If you practice sitting on the sofa, then the rarer rehearsal and gig can make the bass feel somewhat alien as it will be positioned differently. It's not normally an problem, but some people notice. I'm on your side man, I want you to get your perfect bass.

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1384207180' post='2274105'] You're basically just trolling now, dude. [/quote] No I am not. I have been on the same journey as you, I know what it feels like, I bought and sold basses before what I have now. Warwick or Fender Jazz?, Warwick or Fender Jazz? Warwick or Fender Jazz? I played quite a few of both. I ended up with a gorgeous 1983 USA Fender Standard Jazz. Romance took me there. I adore it, I stare at it, and when I strap the bastard on I forget I'm playing it. It's not perfect, it needs a side shim, fine adjustment with the neck pitch, I had to level the frets, the tuners are slightly different to each other, it has a little dead spot on the G, it's a very simple, slightly faulty bass. But it facilitates my music in the right way. I didn't know I wanted it, I just fancied buying it when I saw it on here. It was an wonderful accident motivated by a romantic association with childhood lust for a Fender. So no, I am not trolling. I am trying to get you to think about the source of your desires so you have a small chance to get what you REALLY want. Perhaps you would simply prefer measurements and assumptions.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1384206840' post='2274097'] One thing working in your favour is that you know you want a Fender-style bass, presumably from what you have said a Precision with a 1.625 inch nut width. If you are familiar with and like that design then it would take quite a lot for a decent builder to irrevokably mess that up for you . It's a tried and tested design and you should at least end up with something in that ballpark. I would back off on the heirloom status thing , though. Don't put yourself under that "once in a lifetime" pressure . If you want to buy a bass and can afford it then buy it and hope for the best. What's the worst that can happen ? You might get the bass of your dreams , or it is a let-down ( unlikely) have to cut your losses and in the process learn a bit more about what you do and don't want from a bass. Either way , it will all work out O.K in the end. [/quote] What about the depth and width throughout the length of the neck? Fret size?

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1384206433' post='2274088'] Yes. Show me where I say I need a good bass to improve my playing. [/quote] I don't need to. I can read between the lines. The same lines I wrote myself

[quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1384206060' post='2274083'] In the interests of discussion and not attack, it sounds like you're laying down a rule there. Do rules suit us all? Who sets the rule and defines it? Perhaps that statement suits you and your personal subjectivity, but does that rule you layed down fit us all? Many a musician finds the instrument for them and sticks, not the majority, but a good minority. [/quote] Not a rule, just a philosophical proposition. It's got nowt to do with finding a bass, it's about finding oneself. One should ideally play THROUGH an instrument, not ON it. It's a lot easier to find a bass to play on than it is to find oneself through it. If a bass is decent, one can find oneself through it. The best bass is the bass you don't even notice you're playing. Or am I just being a preposterous ol ****?

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1384204487' post='2274057'] That's not really what I said now, is it? [/quote] Are you sure?

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1384203373' post='2274038'] I want to own [i]less[/i] stuff, just better. Bear in mind- i'm talking about my dream bass here. I think I've now put in enough bass playing hours to deserve a top-end instrument that I can cherish for many years to come, that will still be looked after, taken out of it's case and played frequently long after I've given up the gigging life. I don't think there is anything wrong with that- this is not irrational GAS. [b]This is a long-term plan to replace my three mid-price Fenders with one, ultimate bass[/b], drawing on all the things I've liked and not liked in my previous basses. I've not found myself suddenly lusting after a Stingray for no reason. The only question mark, is how can you make a decision without playing the two options I've listed, as both would have to be custom-made? That's the idea of this thread, to gain as much info as possible. Bravewood are local to me, but I've never seen one in the flesh. CS I've played and liked, but are almost £1000 more than a Bravewood and not hand made. I like handmade, knowing someone's crafted that from scratch just for me- it makes me feel warm inside. Like I said in my original post, I have a good idea of what I like and don't like in a bass now, but that doesn't guarantee anything. Some basses look good on paper but don't feel right. And vice versa. I could just wait, as recommended, and when finances allow, maybe take a trip to Camden and see if something vintage-ish speaks to me. Played in instruments feel far more comfortable to me. None of my current basses, as reasonably good as they are, will gain heirloom status with me, I want one that will! Either that or they'll have to bury it with me! My brother in law plays bass. He once gave me a piece of advice I felt was good but i never followed- Once you've played bass for a few years, you've done your time with cheaper basses and you've decided playing bass is for you and you [b]will[/b] stick at it, don't bother with in-between basses, just go straight to the top and buy a good one. It'll save all the messing around. He did this and went and bought a Rickenbacker 4001 which is the only bass he's owned for the past 15 years. He'll never sell it, and I'd like to think he's got me on his will to take over the ownership if he snuffs it! I'd prob trade it for a P bass though..... [/quote] There is no such animal as 'the ultimate bass'. For there to be, you must be a constant. If you are any sort of musician, your musical motives and inspirations, and your equipment requirements, will be changing over time as you journey along your musical path of learning and expression. If you feel your basses are inhibiting your journey, that is one thing. Thinking a new bass will speed your journey is quite another.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1384183823' post='2273657'] Which is which though [/quote] I wondered who might take advantage of that feed

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1384165792' post='2273338'] Have a great gig Nige! [/quote]Thanks Si! x